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Title: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 03, 2010, 03:00:28 PM
how long before we see a surfin' bird edit of that clip?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 03, 2010, 03:07:51 PM
I don't know what you're talking about but fuidolfjdsgoidjgfjhgiohn Doctor Who was awesome tonight.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 03, 2010, 03:16:21 PM
indeed good...and decent new assistant too! waiting for 1940's wwII daleks.........
but when he asked "what is the word?" i expected a breakout into this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZThquH5t0ow
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 03, 2010, 03:20:06 PM
Ooooooooooooooooohkay.
Yeah. The assistant/companion/whatever is also less disappointing than I expected but I'm not suuuuure about her yet.
I freaked out when I saw the parts of the preview thing with the Weeping Angels. I'm looking forward to that in particular.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 03, 2010, 03:25:21 PM
It looks like there are going to be new things too, which is a relief as previous trailers hinted at lots of the same stuff reapearing and little else....although I would love to see some really old adversaries appearing ( bring on the sea devils!)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 04, 2010, 04:06:50 PM
Omfg omfg omfg it was so fucking good xD I'm so happy with them. And his new sonic is green! Score! xD He doesn't have any eyebrows though.... o.O
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on April 04, 2010, 09:26:09 PM
I don't hate the new Doctor. I usually always hate the new Doctor few at least a few weeks. I do hate the new opening credits but that is just me being picky.

I loved the holographic montage of all the past Doctors.
 
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 04, 2010, 09:32:49 PM
I don't hate the new Doctor. I usually always hate the new Doctor few at least a few weeks. I do hate the new opening credits but that is just me being picky.

I loved the holographic montage of all the past Doctors.
 
Now if you could just get one to take a sonic screwdriver to yer ankle....   :-\
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Katherine May Williams on April 04, 2010, 10:01:30 PM
I like him.

Far less emo than 10ant.

Less shouty, gurny, huggy, weepy.

Good stuff.

The Pond girl seem alright too. Very pretty. Tall. Ginger. But I wish they'd give him a weird assistant for once. Less of the awestruck normals.

Wish they'd just fuck off mucking around with the theme tune, though. Go back to the original, I say. The old radiophonic workshop version can't be improved upon and there is simply no need to change it. Ever. Imo.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 04, 2010, 10:33:05 PM
...but really they should just go with:
http://www.youtube.com/v/bdTELokKfCk
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on April 05, 2010, 09:20:36 AM
I loved it.

New companion rules. She is funny, and I have such a thing for ginger women. I like them a bit older mostly, but she is mega-hot.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 05, 2010, 01:00:03 PM
I loved it.

New companion rules. She is funny, and I have such a thing for ginger women. I like them a bit older mostly, but she is mega-hot.

Yus! She is indeed.

I didn't realise how annoying 10ant was getting until now he's gone xD He's just a bit gurny. Really the only problem I have with this one is his complete lack of eyebrows. Does nobody else care about this?! EYEBROWS ARE IMPORTANT!!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 05, 2010, 03:26:26 PM
EYEBROWS ARE IMPORTANT!!

http://hotchickswithnoeyebrows.blogspot.com/2008/05/amanda-palmer.html

(...and don't worry, I won't tell Davey T you said he was annoying...)




I loved it.

New companion rules. She is funny, and I have such a thing for ginger women. I like them a bit older mostly, but she is mega-hot.


Yus! She is indeed.

I didn't realise how annoying 10ant was getting until now he's gone xD He's just a bit gurny. Really the only problem I have with this one is his complete lack of eyebrows. Does nobody else care about this?! EYEBROWS ARE IMPORTANT!!

Just preserving the evidence in case Indja tries to change her post and deny saying it...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 05, 2010, 04:12:44 PM
I didn't say he was annoying - the character was getting FUCKING annoying though. They just kept falling back on the same damn things - feels like a real breath of fresh air now that RTD and DT are both gone. It's nice.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on April 08, 2010, 02:20:52 PM
I didn't say he was annoying - the character was getting FUCKING annoying though. They just kept falling back on the same damn things - feels like a real breath of fresh air now that RTD and DT are both gone. It's nice.

I think DT got that way on purpose. Unlike other Doctors, he was really starting to come apart at the seams. Like he succumbed to all his time with humanity and started making huge mistakes.

I think RTD was great for Dr. Who in general, but he really was repeating himself and focusing too much on making the 10th Doctor ALWAYS being in a state of crisis. He did the same thing to Torchwood. He needs to lighten up a bit.

Hopefully the new Doctor keeps things a little lighter, and the dark episodes will have so much more impact for it.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on April 08, 2010, 03:03:53 PM
the upcoming  game is described as "4 episodes of the series."  http://io9.com/5512741/doctor-who-adventure-games-will-be-like-four-extra-episodes-of-the-season--and-theyll-be-free/gallery/

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 09, 2010, 03:03:02 AM
Russel T Davies did a wonderful job  on resurecting Dr Who but he really should not be allowed anywhere near scripts... all the good episodes were the ones written by other scriptwiters (stephen moffat among them) anyway... Neil Gaiman's episode is now going to be at the beginning of next season rather than the end of this season
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 09, 2010, 06:38:05 AM
much to Audrey's annoyance:

I reacted to the episode like this
decent acting by the main two DW and the new girl. But dosen't he look like Joe black (uk cabaret performer) who co-incidentally has the surname Smith (maybe they're related)

My main gripes with post millennium Doctor Who
Crappy CGI aliens that haven't the polish needed to make them feel like a real threat. It needs more focus on prosthetics over human performances (cgi is never lit right, never as textural or visceral as physical costumes - this is why various fans when attending conventions choose to dress up as the deadly angel statues, brood queen or the clockwork characters)
(http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/Weeping%20Angel%203.jpg)(http://www.culch.ie/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/clockwork-android.jpg)(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1438/1195450876_007b052334.jpg?v=0)

Hand crafted costumes by skilled art dept and not some dick in Wales who thinks he is working at ILM (iron man is believable that eel alien thing was just laughable)

(http://static.bbc.co.uk/images/ic/qe/crop/946x532//doctorwho/monsters/prisoner_0/d11/s01/ep01/d11s01ep01_prisoner_03.jpg)
The fish toothed warped faces of the bodies it took the form of were more effective at being creepy and threatening. The eejits who do the CGI need to realise that less is more, Its easier to scare using shadows and part reveals.
ok Ill continue..

* Watered down threats to the main cast and ridiculous get out of danger scenes (never feel like any character is in real danger therefore the villains never feel dangerous enough)
* Crappy pop-music tie ins which no doctor has ever had "here come the drums?" yes they reduced the master to a gormless idiot. The 1970/80s master was much more evil and had more presence as an actor.
* The crappy new title sequence, the fact they 9/10 set the action in London which blows. There are other cities in the UK and many better locations in the world that they could film in.
* The fact every Doctor since the millennium has been under 50. Pretty ageist for the BBC

TL:DR
Probs with Dr who
cgi is piss weak and lets down good performances by DW+assistant
aliens as threatening as teletubbies
needs more focus on handmade costumes/aliens and suitable lighting effects
needs to stop the pop music and focus on scores instead.
BBC is ageist against older doctors next doctor will be 10 and his assistant will be a foster Mummy.

I leave you with some piss weak cgi alien... ooh scary
(http://static.bbc.co.uk/images/ic/qe/crop/946x532//doctorwho/monsters/prisoner_0/d11/s01/ep01/d11s01ep01_prisoner_04.jpg)



Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 09, 2010, 07:58:11 AM
Whenever we watch Doctor Who, Johnny complains about things and describes other ways it could be done that would basically turn it into a giant horror film/massacre. It's a family show, it's fun, stfu.
They are going with what families at the moment will sit down and watch, not what a 30 year old film geek who likes to watch people get killed wants to watch.
I had figured that was fairly fucking obvious but apparently not.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 09, 2010, 08:06:44 AM
Whenever we watch Doctor Who, Johnny complains about things and describes other ways it could be done that would basically turn it into a giant horror film/massacre. It's a family show, it's fun, stfu.
They are going with what families at the moment will sit down and watch, not what a 30 year old film geek who likes to watch people get killed wants to watch.
I had figured that was fairly fucking obvious but apparently not.

I'm not talking about making it into aliens, or friday the 13th and I am fully aware it's a family show but
look at the pictures and tell me which is better, a crappy (1st year of a 3D degree student quality) computer game looking eel
or the three physically crafted villains above?

I rest my case Mr.misses the point

if I have to listen to you rant about the new assistant not being as hot as all the people on boards think
then you have to listen to my art dept views :P
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 09, 2010, 08:10:22 AM
I am not missing the point. You are pretending that you meant something different to what you've been saying to me since the first time I mentioned to you that I like Doctor Who.
While I agree that the 'physically crafted' ones are better, that has never been your main focus in this seemingly eternal argument about Doctor Who, of all fucking things for you to obsess over while simultaneously saying you don't care much about it.
Enough of the epic douchery, Johnny. Bored now.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 09, 2010, 08:17:55 AM
now now kids!.... I agree about the cgi.... for the most part it has been awful....and decent costume is much more effective.... we shall have to wait and see what happens to the new series, but Stephen moffat is almost certainly going to make it darker and more in line with older series.....as for the doctors age.... it is kind of Dr Who lore that he will gradually become younger through each incarnation... so yes his final incarnation would probably be a foetus....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 09, 2010, 08:27:21 AM
I don't even really care. I just think that if you're going to watch something, instead of complaining to people who do enjoy it about how you think it should be and why you hate it, shut up, stop watching it or accept it for what it is. This applies to all of the TV shows/movies/etc. people have stupid, pointless arguments about.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 09, 2010, 09:33:49 AM
I don't even really care. I just think that if you're going to watch something, instead of complaining to people who do enjoy it about how you think it should be and why you hate it, shut up, stop watching it or accept it for what it is. This applies to all of the TV shows/movies/etc. people have stupid, pointless arguments about.

meh if we don't critique nothing ever improves :)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 09, 2010, 02:57:58 PM
You're improving nothing by complaining to your girlfriend.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 10, 2010, 02:20:24 AM
he may be improving his girlfriend!   (shall i run and hide now?)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 10, 2010, 06:37:37 AM
You're improving nothing by complaining to your girlfriend.

everybody bitches about something, at least mine is constructive bitching not just you suck BBC!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 10, 2010, 07:39:04 AM
You're improving nothing by complaining to your girlfriend.

johnny bitches about everything, at least mine is constructive bitching not just you suck BBC!

:P :D
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 10, 2010, 02:13:27 PM
Oh, ands Ms. LMA, the new assistant (or companion, or sidekick, or
wheatever the heck they call such things these days) is plenty hot
enough....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 10, 2010, 04:51:23 PM
I don't see it!!!! I really don't. She looks really fucking average to me. She looks like a 12 year old. She looks like a really average 12 year old and I think you're all insane.
Bah!

Also Johnny sucks for throwing that in there. It was irrelevant and I don't feel like defending my opinion of Doctor Who's assistant to the shadowbox.  >:(
I don't care what anyone else thinks. I just don't see it.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 11, 2010, 02:22:10 AM
...........anyway...on to episode 2! the cgi was far less intrusive and the story was rather good!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 11, 2010, 02:59:05 PM
I agree, also the ceramic faced pistol toting queen was amusing and
the rotating heads were subtle/menacing too.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: FrailAndBedazzled on April 12, 2010, 11:38:08 AM
I would just like to state that, despite really enjoying this season, I am UTTERLY TERRIFIED of Matt Smith's chin.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on April 12, 2010, 11:55:37 AM
I would just like to state that, despite really enjoying this season, I am UTTERLY TERRIFIED of Matt Smith's chin.

That is where he stores all his epicness.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 12, 2010, 12:35:23 PM
Don't like Matt Smith too much so far. Pretty sure he's said that he wasn't really a Doctor Who fan and he comes across like he doesn't realise that he doesn't have to act exactly the same as whoever played the Doctor before him. Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant both realised this and...you know...didn't play the same person. Different people who were similar at times, I guess? Matt Smith..I wouldn't be surprised if he just watched some of the previous series to see where he was picking up from and decided that he had to be David Tennant II.
He's okay, but I just feel like I am watching a David Tennant impersonator.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: 24hourchemist on April 12, 2010, 03:57:26 PM
I really liked matt smith in the first episode but he annoyed me in the second episode. I was hoping he would be a bit like david tennent but without the angst, like in the first episode. But then he got all moody. I also think there should be a bit more chemistry (not necessarily romantic) between him and his companion - it was a bit odd that he just told her to go off on thier first trip.

But the series is better than I expected
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 13, 2010, 01:58:48 AM
I think that this series promises to be the best scripted of the new Dr Who, even if the latest incarnation of him is not the most iconic (It is going to be tough to follow David tennant, no matter how annoying he could be at times)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on April 13, 2010, 07:33:34 AM
Good lord people, give him a chance to settle in. Christopher had the advantage of starting the coming back of the series, with no one to directly follow. David took a little bit to settle in. The new comapanions always get off to rocky starts with the doctor, especially when they are meeting one that just regenerated. The Doctor not knowing exactly who he is after regeneration and acting a bit like the last one at first is pretty much written into the show's code.

I think he is going in the right direction, and he already is showing signs of being his very own Doctor. The second episode took a big jump forward in my opinion, and I like how early they chose to remind the Doctor that he NEEDS a companion or he has no balance to take his ego down a notch.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 13, 2010, 09:34:37 AM
My problem is more to do with the fact that Matt Smith is just acting like he is trying to be David Tennant who, when he started, shared SOME characteristics with the previous Doctor but didn't act like he had stolen his entire personality. I'm sure it will happen less and less but he's...disappointing. When David Tennant first started, I was upset about it, but I was still excited and managed to get into it right away and wasn't let down. Matt Smith has been underwhelming. After all the excitement, I feel pretty let down.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on April 14, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
My problem is more to do with the fact that Matt Smith is just acting like he is trying to be David Tennant who, when he started, shared SOME characteristics with the previous Doctor but didn't act like he had stolen his entire personality. I'm sure it will happen less and less but he's...disappointing. When David Tennant first started, I was upset about it, but I was still excited and managed to get into it right away and wasn't let down. Matt Smith has been underwhelming. After all the excitement, I feel pretty let down.

That sucks that you feel let down. Now to show my age, I felt let down too after Tom Baker left the series. I hated every doctor after him until they brought the show back. In hindsight I was being very harsh, as they were not that bad. Tom Baker was my first Doctor, and will always be MY Doctor.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: buttercup. on April 14, 2010, 11:43:24 AM
Anyone know how I can watch this without owning a tv or living in Europe? I really want to see the new doctor without waiting for the DVD...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 14, 2010, 11:46:15 AM
Good lord people, give him a chance to settle in. Christopher had the advantage of starting the coming back of the series, with no one to directly follow. David took a little bit to settle in. The new comapanions always get off to rocky starts with the doctor, especially when they are meeting one that just regenerated. The Doctor not knowing exactly who he is after regeneration and acting a bit like the last one at first is pretty much written into the show's code.

I think he is going in the right direction, and he already is showing signs of being his very own Doctor. The second episode took a big jump forward in my opinion, and I like how early they chose to remind the Doctor that he NEEDS a companion or he has no balance to take his ego down a notch.

I'm right with you. I mean, I love him already because I'm a fickle beast xD But like you said, DT took a while to get into the swing of things and so will Matty Matt Mattersson. I really liked how he dealt with telling Pondy that he's the last of his kind - he looked a bit... damaged xD I guess cos he's so much quieter that DT was, he has a more subtle feeling about him? I dunno. I loved the 2nd ep - although the word "star whale" is just a fucking joke xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on April 14, 2010, 11:54:21 AM
Anyone know how I can watch this without owning a tv or living in Europe? I really want to see the new doctor without waiting for the DVD...

torrent the sucker. My wife and refused to wait for BBC America to get around to showing the new episodes, so we download that crap. Then we watch 'em again when they air for real because we iz nerdy like dat.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: buttercup. on April 14, 2010, 12:00:09 PM
Anyone know how I can watch this without owning a tv or living in Europe? I really want to see the new doctor without waiting for the DVD...

torrent the sucker. My wife and refused to wait for BBC America to get around to showing the new episodes, so we download that crap. Then we watch 'em again when they air for real because we iz nerdy like dat.

What if I suck at torrents? Every time I've tried it takes forever and I don't have internet at home..
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on April 14, 2010, 12:00:48 PM
although the word "star whale" is just a fucking joke xD

I kept thinking "That is the name of the next Yes album".

I could hear Jon Anderson in my head singing:

"Mythical Beast, interstellar child of time.
Saving England, on the back of love's design.
How can we torture, the star whale for his gift?
Unhumankind, our souls set adrift!
DIDOW!!!"

Yes, total nerd am I.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on April 14, 2010, 12:01:55 PM
Anyone know how I can watch this without owning a tv or living in Europe? I really want to see the new doctor without waiting for the DVD...

torrent the sucker. My wife and refused to wait for BBC America to get around to showing the new episodes, so we download that crap. Then we watch 'em again when they air for real because we iz nerdy like dat.

What if I suck at torrents? Every time I've tried it takes forever and I don't have internet at home..

Sorry, my wife does it for me. I ride the fail boat on teh internetz.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 14, 2010, 11:48:05 PM
Anyone know how I can watch this without owning a tv or living in Europe? I really want to see the new doctor without waiting for the DVD...
torrent the sucker. My wife and refused to wait for BBC America to get around to showing the new episodes, so we download that crap. Then we watch 'em again when they air for real because we iz nerdy like dat.
What if I suck at torrents? Every time I've tried it takes forever and I don't have internet at home..
Sorry, my wife does it for me. I ride the fail boat on teh internetz.
My sister steals pre-acquires Dr Who off tha interwebz.

If she brings me a disc, I'll send you a copy.
(...but you have to promise to watch it as soon as you get a TV and they broadcast it there...)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: buttercup. on April 15, 2010, 04:31:31 PM
Anyone know how I can watch this without owning a tv or living in Europe? I really want to see the new doctor without waiting for the DVD...
torrent the sucker. My wife and refused to wait for BBC America to get around to showing the new episodes, so we download that crap. Then we watch 'em again when they air for real because we iz nerdy like dat.
What if I suck at torrents? Every time I've tried it takes forever and I don't have internet at home..
Sorry, my wife does it for me. I ride the fail boat on teh internetz.
My sister steals pre-acquires Dr Who off tha interwebz.

If she brings me a disc, I'll send you a copy.
(...but you have to promise to watch it as soon as you get a TV and they broadcast it there...)

I can "promise" to try to go to a friends house and watch.
And that would be fantastic and wonderful and beautiful Charlie.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Matty on April 20, 2010, 12:17:17 PM
EEP! I just saw the first episode the other day! I was made of win.
"14 years since Fish Custard.."
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on April 20, 2010, 07:09:25 PM
"14 years since Fish Custard.."

That part was like torture for poor pregnant me to watch. I was laughing and feeling like I was going to throw up all at the same time.

I just watched the latest episode. Sort of felt like they were doing a dalek episode because they thought they had to. I'm not a huge fan of the rainbow daleks either.

I think next week will be better. Weeping Angels FTW.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 20, 2010, 11:39:33 PM
I'm not a huge fan of the rainbow daleks either.
Look lady, if two boy-daleks fancy each other, who are you to stand in their way?   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on April 21, 2010, 01:17:59 AM
I'm not a huge fan of the rainbow daleks either.
Look lady, if two boy-daleks fancy each other, who are you to stand in their way?   ;D ;D ;D

Are there any girl daleks?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 21, 2010, 01:26:05 AM
I'm not a huge fan of the rainbow daleks either.
Look lady, if two boy-daleks fancy each other, who are you to stand in their way?   ;D ;D ;D

Are there any girl daleks?
...and now you're assigning species-ist gender forms?

Wow, you really are a piece of work...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 21, 2010, 01:48:47 AM
daleks always used to be vat grown squiddy brains in a jar.....(originally humanoid but genetically enhanced and purified by Davros to create his army) I imagine that they all get together and squirt goop into a vat
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 21, 2010, 12:27:47 PM
daleks always used to be vat grown squiddy brains in a jar.....(originally humanoid but genetically enhanced and purified by Davros to create his army) I imagine that they all get together and squirt goop into a vat
So what you're saying is they're all [ahem] Rainbow, but the rainbow is solid grey-green.... ?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: buttercup. on April 21, 2010, 12:41:21 PM
FINALLY SAW IT.

and all I have to say is that I might actually love it.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 21, 2010, 04:50:15 PM
FINALLY SAW IT.

and all I have to say is that I might actually love it.

Just forgive them for the most recent episode. It was written by Mark Gatiss, who I hate, and he did a frankly rotten horrible job. BUT I HAVE HIGH HOPES FOR THE REST OF THE SERIES!! And for the lovely Amelia xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 23, 2010, 05:41:50 AM
since our debate about CGI in Doctor Who - Audrey stops me everytime CGI is used and asks
"what did you think of that, was that ok? did you like it? Did it work?"
in danger of being quoted out of context but meh...lol
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 23, 2010, 12:48:55 PM
since our debate about CGI in Doctor Who - Audrey stops me everytime CGI is used and asks
"what did you think of that, was that ok? did you like it? Did it work?"
in danger of being quoted out of context but meh...lol
It happens sometimes...  Something you never paid any attention to is pointed out, and
suddenly you realize it was in front of you, in great quantity, ALL THE TIME, and further
that it interests you to some degree...

A is a visual artist, so I'm not at all surprised that she notices when someone sticks a
big (often poorly done) computer-generated drawing in the middle of her TV screen...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Katherine May Williams on April 24, 2010, 04:40:42 PM
So yeah. I really liked it. Not a let down at all. Loving the Moffat. Vive le Moffat. May whatshisface T Davis never return.

Fuck the Daleks. Weeping Angels FTW.

And I still like Matt & Karen. They got it right from the get go. Kudos them. I very much appreciate how ungurny MattDoctor is. Seriously. Thank you, Matt Smith, for your lack of emo shoutyness, wide-eyed grinnyness and OTTTimelord wankery.

Bonus points awarded for River Song's shoes. And Alex Kingston for being very attractive in the 'Confidential' afterwards when nobody had tried to tame her mad hair. Love her mad hair. Let it fly free!

Nobody told me it was a two-parter, though. Not fair. I have to wait A WEEK? *gets pissed off, points gun in the air, etc*
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 25, 2010, 11:17:04 AM
I hate River Song, on many levels, but LOVE the Weeping Angels and The Moffat Man. Love Love Love. I'm so glad they only gave Mark Gatiss one episode - he just sucks balls.

^^ Am also mightily pissed it's a two-parter. I knew, but I totally forgot until the end credits came on and the entire front room went, "Oh, WHAT?! Come ooooon!!" xD Also loving the non-gurning and the Pond <3
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Katherine May Williams on April 25, 2010, 03:32:17 PM
I hate River Song, on many levels,

I love her name and the idea of her.. but, yes, the character herself is kind of annoyingly smug. Although I can imagine her being a lot worse (if played by a different actress.. I cannot bring myself to dislike Alex Kingston because she is a fellow curly. I feeeeel her hair. And resent those who attempt to straiten it.)

Also, as the Doctor gets younger.. I kind of like the "older" woman aspect of the storyline. There must be a 20 odd year age gap now between Matt & Alex. Bit kinky that. Mildly subversive. And a welcome reversal (if you ask me) of the longheld tradition of the Doctor being significantly older (in real life) than his young innocent (love-sick, eye candy) companion.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 26, 2010, 07:13:01 AM
I hate River Song, on many levels,

I just hate the fact they used Poisin Ivy's thing at the start of the episode.
controlling men using lipstick? why not just go the whole hog and give River Song power over plants too.

Get your own ideas BBC stop nicking from existing pop culture you lame bastards.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: buttercup. on April 26, 2010, 10:44:28 AM
(http://fusedfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/uma_thurman-poison-ivy_002.jpg)(http://unrealityshout.com/files/images/professor-river-song.preview.jpg)

I mean, they're practically the same person.
 :violent5:
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 26, 2010, 10:49:49 AM
(http://fusedfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/uma_thurman-poison-ivy_002.jpg)(http://unrealityshout.com/files/images/professor-river-song.preview.jpg)

I mean, they're practically the same person.
 :violent5:

from Batman Wiki
Powers and Abilities
She specializes in hybrids and can create the most potently powerful toxins in Gotham City. Often these toxins are secreted from her lips and administered via a kiss. They come in a number of varieties, from mind-controlling drugs to instantly fatal narcotics.

This even appears in the terrible Batman and Robin Film, which is probably where they got the idea
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: buttercup. on April 26, 2010, 10:50:59 AM
...you know, I know this.
I really should stop posting on the board at all.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 26, 2010, 10:52:13 AM
...you know, I know this.
I really should stop posting on the board at all.

Im not arguing just banging my point home :P
I like ya really Mali  :D
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 26, 2010, 11:15:47 AM
Ah, come ON! Killer lipstick is one of the oldest, coolest things in the big strong space-woman's repetoire. YoSaffBridge anyone??


I agree that the older-woman thing with the baby-faced Dokta is pretty ace, but River Song is just so smug and.... Smug! That just exactly the word! I don't hate Alex Kingston at all, I think she's marvellous, but the character's just crappy.

Am I the only nerd here who also watches Doctor Who Confidential? I'm so stoked that Steven Moffat said when he was talking about River Song being the Doctor's wife, "Maybe she is, maybe she isn't - maybe it's something much, much darker than that...." o.O Knowing Moffers, it's something darker. It's always something darker with him xD

I was talking about Doctor Who at college today - it's like standard conversation for Mondays when it's been on at the weekend xD - and we decided that it's about bloody bastarding time they had either a gay or a black (or both SHOCK SHOCK HORROR!!) actor play the Doctor. Thoughts?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 26, 2010, 11:35:32 AM
Ah, come ON! Killer lipstick is one of the oldest, coolest things in the big strong space-woman's repetoire. YoSaffBridge anyone??


I agree that the older-woman thing with the baby-faced Dokta is pretty ace, but River Song is just so smug and.... Smug! That just exactly the word! I don't hate Alex Kingston at all, I think she's marvellous, but the character's just crappy.

Am I the only nerd here who also watches Doctor Who Confidential? I'm so stoked that Steven Moffat said when he was talking about River Song being the Doctor's wife, "Maybe she is, maybe she isn't - maybe it's something much, much darker than that...." o.O Knowing Moffers, it's something darker. It's always something darker with him xD

I was talking about Doctor Who at college today - it's like standard conversation for Mondays when it's been on at the weekend xD - and we decided that it's about bloody bastarding time they had either a gay or a black (or both SHOCK SHOCK HORROR!!) actor play the Doctor. Thoughts?

So the doctor would regenerate with a different sexual preference? I know his personality regenerates but his sexuality?
Just like you can't have the Doc be a woman, you can have him magically switch to Gay/Bi just because it'd be cool IYO

I'd love to see a clinically insane Doctor with an overly theatrical goth assistant but that won't happen

Back on track with the ivy debate. The originality timeline goes like this
1st IVY - 2nd Saffron (firefly) - 3rd Some crap DW character.
Ps. Saffron used a chemical to knock Mal out, the other two used it to seduce/entrall. Different stuff there.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 26, 2010, 11:48:22 AM
I said a gay ACTOR xD I don't mean he'd be gay - for most of the old eps, he was barely even sexual at all. It's just there's never been an openly gay actor playing the Doctor, and I think it's such a huge part that it's started to be a bit weird that, of everyone who's ever been considered, a gay man hasn't even been accepted. Obv it only counts if they can actually bloody act, but still, it's just a thought.

Why couldn't you have a female Doctor?

You could totes have a goth companion, and DT's Doctor towards the end was getting pretty bloody crazy - his whole thing at the end of the Waters Of Mars was MENTAL.

As for the killer kisses, who cares?! It's a COOL thing for women to do xD It's like the ultimate femme fatale thing. As for it being nicked off other people, every story is nicked from something else, it's just in the telling that it develops.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 26, 2010, 08:13:37 PM
Why couldn't you have a female Doctor?
Will this do?
http://www.youtube.com/v/r4dUQgIaXGg
...or will you insist on Joanna Lumley, who's in one of the parts of "The Curse
of Fatal Death" that seems to have been removed from YouTube?
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/cbizzell/CoFD1.jpg)
(...and who seems a bit surprised to have regenerated as a woman...)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/cbizzell/CoFD2.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 26, 2010, 08:15:49 PM
In an unrelated matter... 

Do many of your policewomen look like this?
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/cbizzell/DWss.jpg)
   :o :o :o
I may have to get a passport just so I can go over and get arrested....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 27, 2010, 04:10:39 AM
nope - only the stripping ones :)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 27, 2010, 12:04:10 PM
nope - only the stripping ones :)
Meh, even our strippers aren't that pretty....

While my actual firsthand experience is limited, based on that experience and a few episodes of
COPS and such, I have decided that Hollywood's unrealistic beauty expectations extend to such
as strippers, prostitutes and, apparently, police-officers.  :'(
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: buttercup. on April 27, 2010, 01:24:09 PM
nope - only the stripping ones :)

 :o SHE'S A KISSOGRAM NOT A STRIPPER
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 27, 2010, 05:12:05 PM
nope - only the stripping ones :)

 :o SHE'S A KISSOGRAM NOT A STRIPPER

meh, a moot point. It's def not a proper lady-cop uniform

British police woman
(http://senmcglinn.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/020policewoman_228x328.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 28, 2010, 06:55:55 AM
I liked the last episode. It were good.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 28, 2010, 07:28:50 AM
I liked the last episode. It were good.

you were all scared. awww  :love5:
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: FrailAndBedazzled on April 28, 2010, 07:59:30 PM
I am going to KILL A BABY.
I have been trying to watch Angels for the past two days but the only access I have to it is Megavideo.  Megavideo stops you after 72 minutes of video and makes you wait an hour. 
Two issues there.
1: I never actually have another hour after I set aside time to watch this show.
2: All of my college's internet runs off the same IP address.  So it lumps everyone together as one viewer.  So I get, say, 25 minutes into an episode and it shuts me right the fuck down.  Sometimes I can only get five minutes.  It's very irritating.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 28, 2010, 11:40:40 PM
I am going to KILL A BABY.
I have been trying to watch Angels for the past two days but the only access I have to it is Megavideo.  Megavideo stops you after 72 minutes of video and makes you wait an hour. 
Two issues there.
1: I never actually have another hour after I set aside time to watch this show.
2: All of my college's internet runs off the same IP address.  So it lumps everyone together as one viewer.  So I get, say, 25 minutes into an episode and it shuts me right the fuck down.  Sometimes I can only get five minutes.  It's very irritating.

bit-torrent is your friend.....   :)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 29, 2010, 09:55:04 AM
I can summarise it
doctor why we in museum - oh no reason
oh look a plot device in a case
"oh look a person I can interact with wants me to bail her out"
reunite scene aboard the tardis
back n forth married couple banter
oh dear the ship they followed crashed and was storing an angel.
drawn out helper girl v angel in screen
drawn out walking through tunnels soldiers going hey Dave/Bob/Jim come see - angel gets them (repeated 3 times)
doctor bites helpers hand after angel contacts them via deadguy voices
doctor give connecting spech about planets imhabitants having 2 heads
shock horror the statues have one head and then they go oh many statues... we dead
doctor gives tired speech about don't make me angry (like he always does) say I'm the doctor, everybody jumps
they jump and credits.
the end.

How much is moffat paid?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: FrailAndBedazzled on April 29, 2010, 10:33:27 AM
I am going to KILL A BABY.
I have been trying to watch Angels for the past two days but the only access I have to it is Megavideo.  Megavideo stops you after 72 minutes of video and makes you wait an hour. 
Two issues there.
1: I never actually have another hour after I set aside time to watch this show.
2: All of my college's internet runs off the same IP address.  So it lumps everyone together as one viewer.  So I get, say, 25 minutes into an episode and it shuts me right the fuck down.  Sometimes I can only get five minutes.  It's very irritating.


bit-torrent is your friend.....   :)
All ports save the ones for the actual internet and the one for AIM are choked off.  No torrenting possible on campus unless you actually know how to get around these things, and I am NOT good with computers. 
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 29, 2010, 10:53:05 AM
I am going to KILL A BABY.
I have been trying to watch Angels for the past two days but the only access I have to it is Megavideo.  Megavideo stops you after 72 minutes of video and makes you wait an hour. 
Two issues there.
1: I never actually have another hour after I set aside time to watch this show.
2: All of my college's internet runs off the same IP address.  So it lumps everyone together as one viewer.  So I get, say, 25 minutes into an episode and it shuts me right the fuck down.  Sometimes I can only get five minutes.  It's very irritating.
bit-torrent is your friend.....   :)
All ports save the ones for the actual internet and the one for AIM are choked off.  No torrenting possible on campus unless you actually know how to get around these things, and I am NOT good with computers. 
Know anyone off-campus who could d/l and burn it to disc for you?
I'd be happy to snail-mail it (after waiting for part 2), but it'd take a while to arrive....

I could probably work-around the port-issue if I were there, but no way I could talk you through
the process.  Maybe someone else here has the requisite expertise....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: FrailAndBedazzled on April 29, 2010, 10:56:11 AM
Our computer science department is SHIT.  I am surprised we even have it as a major.  It's a joke.  Most of our departments are great, but comp. sci....no.  Just no.  Nobody here has that knowledge.  Nor does anyone I know off campus have the time/energy/will to download and burn things.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 29, 2010, 10:56:58 AM
I can summarise it
doctor why we in museum - oh no reason
oh look a plot device in a case
"oh look a person I can interact with wants me to bail her out"
reunite scene aboard the tardis
back n forth married couple banter
oh dear the ship they followed crashed and was storing an angel.
drawn out helper girl v angel in screen
drawn out walking through tunnels soldiers going hey Dave/Bob/Jim come see - angel gets them (repeated 3 times)
doctor bites helpers hand after angel contacts them via deadguy voices
doctor give connecting spech about planets imhabitants having 2 heads
shock horror the statues have one head and then they go oh many statues... we dead
doctor gives tired speech about don't make me angry (like he always does) say I'm the doctor, everybody jumps
they jump and credits.
the end.

How much is moffat paid?

Ooh! Ooh! I know, Johnny - why don't YOU write it?! You clearly know waaay better than a guy who's been writing for television for 20 years and has a slew of awards to his name, not mention meeting unprecedented popularity for his work.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 29, 2010, 11:03:33 AM
While I am very much withholding judgement in this specific case, I'm surprised
anyone in this crowd would equate experience, mass-popularity and commercial
success with actual creative ability....


(...and cute as that Tommy-dalek was, the episode as a whole was rather a mess...)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 29, 2010, 11:16:10 AM
It wasn't written by Moffat, it was written by Mark Gatiss and was a fucking shambles. Moffat's written the best episodes of the new series - he did the first angels one, the clockwork French people, the gasmask kid - all the ones that stand out from the others in a serious way.

As for not paying attention to experience, popularity and commercial success, he's writing for a Saturday night slot on the BBC - if he isn't commercially popular, he's not doing his job properly. I also don't buy that because someone is popular, they must be shit - an awful lot of little, unheard-of writers, artists, etc, are so because they're just not as good as other people.

I'd also like to apologise to Johnny for being a little cuntshit in my last post. Sorry. I'm in a foul mood, but I shouldn't take it out on you. Not that you're here... o.O
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Morpheus Laughing on April 29, 2010, 11:18:15 AM
I am going to KILL A BABY.
I have been trying to watch Angels for the past two days but the only access I have to it is Megavideo.  Megavideo stops you after 72 minutes of video and makes you wait an hour. 
Two issues there.
1: I never actually have another hour after I set aside time to watch this show.
2: All of my college's internet runs off the same IP address.  So it lumps everyone together as one viewer.  So I get, say, 25 minutes into an episode and it shuts me right the fuck down.  Sometimes I can only get five minutes.  It's very irritating.

It’s been a while since I’ve watched anything on Megavideo but I believe that 72 minutes before midnight is the best time to watch something like a long tv show or movie. That method seemed to allow us the ability to watch a film with only a brief interruption. It might even just be a case of pre-loading the video into the streaming memory but I can’t remember if that worked or not.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 29, 2010, 12:03:39 PM
It wasn't written by Moffat, it was written by Mark Gatiss and was a fucking shambles. Moffat's written the best episodes of the new series - he did the first angels one, the clockwork French people, the gasmask kid - all the ones that stand out from the others in a serious way.

As for not paying attention to experience, popularity and commercial success, he's writing for a Saturday night slot on the BBC - if he isn't commercially popular, he's not doing his job properly. I also don't buy that because someone is popular, they must be shit - an awful lot of little, unheard-of writers, artists, etc, are so because they're just not as good as other people.

I'd also like to apologise to Johnny for being a little cuntshit in my last post. Sorry. I'm in a foul mood, but I shouldn't take it out on you. Not that you're here... o.O

Of all of them I don't mind Moffat.
I think I will write a Doctor who episode in which there are no pseudo science getaways from imminent death.
no magic tea rebirths no drivel about drums tied to pop music cha ching.
it will be like pre-90's who where the sets we're crap and the doctors were old men :P

ps be a cunt if you like I still think you're ok its only TV debate nothing personal
I shouldn't really rant here :)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 29, 2010, 01:01:38 PM
I'm right with you on the drums thing xD And srsly, no-one's died for fucking ages. It sucks. I love it when people die xD

As for it not being personal, I do have a tendency to make things personal when I'm grumpy, so I was nipping it in the bud :D Rant away!

We should do a whole Box-based Doctor Who spin-off with wobbly sets, homoerotic undertones and not a CGI monster in sight.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 29, 2010, 04:27:17 PM
...no pseudo science getaways from imminent death....
It's an odd thing I've noticed before in sci-fi...  Sometimes it's possible, in Shakespeare's words
to suspend one's disbelief, but other times not, and the distinction is pretty arbitrary. 

Case in point from the above-referenced DW episode:
-Daleks built a genius-robot, no problem.
-said robot "invented" gravity-bubble technology...  Ok
-gravity-bubbles can be mounted on Supermarine Spitfire fighter-planes, allowing them to
 "fly" into space to attack the Dalek mothership (with some sort of zap-ray weapons, also
 new to the Spitfire airframe...)  This is a bit of a stretch, but I guess I'll play along.

All this newly-invented technology can be constructed, transported from Churchill's war-room
to an airfield, installed on fighter-planes, and deployed in less than 20 minutes...  NO EFFING WAY.

(It's not just WHO.  The Terminator TV series writers wanted to use a blood-type element in a plot-twist, but they clearly never
had high-school biology, and they put their characters in an impossible situation [mom's blood-type O, son is AB]...
Nerds nationwide spotted the oops instantly.)

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on April 29, 2010, 06:03:16 PM
We should do a whole Box-based Doctor Who spin-off with wobbly sets, homoerotic undertones and not a CGI monster in sight.

Wasn't that Torchwood?  >:D

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on April 30, 2010, 05:08:27 AM
...no pseudo science getaways from imminent death....
It's an odd thing I've noticed before in sci-fi...  Sometimes it's possible, in Shakespeare's words
to suspend one's disbelief, but other times not, and the distinction is pretty arbitrary. 

Case in point from the above-referenced DW episode:
-Daleks built a genius-robot, no problem.
-said robot "invented" gravity-bubble technology...  Ok
-gravity-bubbles can be mounted on Supermarine Spitfire fighter-planes, allowing them to
 "fly" into space to attack the Dalek mothership (with some sort of zap-ray weapons, also
 new to the Spitfire airframe...)  This is a bit of a stretch, but I guess I'll play along.

All this newly-invented technology can be constructed, transported from Churchill's war-room
to an airfield, installed on fighter-planes, and deployed in less than 20 minutes...  NO EFFING WAY.

(It's not just WHO.  The Terminator TV series writers wanted to use a blood-type element in a plot-twist, but they clearly never
had high-school biology, and they put their characters in an impossible situation [mom's blood-type O, son is AB]...
Nerds nationwide spotted the oops instantly.)


good points there
also can propeller powered war machines really fly in space? I would have understood if the attached some form of rocket propulsion to the fuselage
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on April 30, 2010, 08:04:39 AM
OK, quick lesson in show nerdom, sci-fi TV and quality:

Star Trek(all the series), Doctor Who, Neverwhere, The TV Series of Hitchhikers Guide, Torchwood, ect. ect...

All of these things really don't stand up well to harsh analytical scrutiny. They really are not designed to. It is about taking the journey, and liking the little or big universe these shows create. The CGI will be bad at times, the stories will be kinda choppy on occasion(or almost all the time in the Original Star Trek), and the acting is campy more than Shakesphere technical brilliance. IT IS JUST GOOD FUN. If you must over-think the whole affair, you are missing out on all the fun. Too bad for you.

I am a total fan-boy-nerd lover of these shows, and this my plea.

And I have tried to be reasonable in my attraction to the very young new companion, being that I don't want to be old creepy guy, but i can't help it. She is fucking hot as hell. Ginger women rule my world.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 30, 2010, 08:13:44 AM
OK, quick lesson in show nerdom, sci-fi TV and quality:

Star Trek(all the series), Doctor Who, Neverwhere, The TV Series of Hitchhikers Guide, Torchwood, ect. ect...

All of these things really don't stand up well to harsh analytical scrutiny. They really are not designed to. It is about taking the journey, and liking the little or big universe these shows create. The CGI will be bad at times, the stories will be kinda choppy on occasion(or almost all the time in the Original Star Trek), and the acting is campy more than Shakesphere technical brilliance. IT IS JUST GOOD FUN. If you must over-think the whole affair, you are missing out on all the fun. Too bad for you.

I am a total fan-boy-nerd lover of these shows, and this my plea.

And I have tried to be reasonable in my attraction to the very young new companion, being that I don't want to be old creepy guy, but i can't help it. She is fucking hot as hell. Ginger women rule my world.
Indeed! ture science fiction would actually be rather boring ... modern sci fi has its roots firmly embedded in pulp fiction and fantasy... the reason why these shows work is that people can identify with the characters and enjoy the telling of tales.... 500 years ago these were tales of dragons and faeries or ghosts told in inns and around campfires.... now they are broadcast into our homes
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 30, 2010, 10:22:23 AM
We should do a whole Box-based Doctor Who spin-off with wobbly sets, homoerotic undertones and not a CGI monster in sight.

Wasn't that Torchwood?  >:D

Hell yeeaaah xD When's that coming back?? Or have they realised that John Barrowman's kind of too shiny to be sexy any more, and Ianto is a dog? Also, they're all Welsh - fail.


LARRY, ROBIN, I'M WITH YOU!! The journey's what matters - science is boring, it's the fiction we love xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 30, 2010, 02:15:16 PM
...no pseudo science getaways from imminent death....
It's an odd thing I've noticed before in sci-fi...  Sometimes it's possible, in Shakespeare's words
to suspend one's disbelief, but other times not, and the distinction is pretty arbitrary. 

Case in point from the above-referenced DW episode:
-Daleks built a genius-robot, no problem.
-said robot "invented" gravity-bubble technology...  Ok
-gravity-bubbles can be mounted on Supermarine Spitfire fighter-planes, allowing them to
 "fly" into space to attack the Dalek mothership (with some sort of zap-ray weapons, also
 new to the Spitfire airframe...)  This is a bit of a stretch, but I guess I'll play along.

All this newly-invented technology can be constructed, transported from Churchill's war-room
to an airfield, installed on fighter-planes, and deployed in less than 20 minutes...  NO EFFING WAY.

(It's not just WHO.  The Terminator TV series writers wanted to use a blood-type element in a plot-twist, but they clearly never
had high-school biology, and they put their characters in an impossible situation [mom's blood-type O, son is AB]...
Nerds nationwide spotted the oops instantly.)


good points there
also can propeller powered war machines really fly in space? I would have understood if the attached some form of rocket propulsion to the fuselage
The pressure of the airflow on the inside of the grav-bubble creates a surface distortion, and
thereby actual gravity-based propulsion.  Thank you for asking.  O0

I think the distinction, though, MAY BE....
If you manipulate entirely-fantastic technology like gravity-bubbles, matter/antimatter reactors, TARDIS-es...
or things people have heard of, but are only understood (or thought to be understood) by research scientists
at some lab somewhere - gravitons, nanorobots, particle-beams... You can generally get away with that, at
least in the short term.  Sure, eventually one of those research scientist guys will write a paper (or if you're
really successful, a whole book) exposing both how wrong your 'science' is and how inflexible scientists can
be when you suggest that they might possibly be the ones who don't fully understand...
...but the fans won't care.

However, if you try to tinker with stuff normal people understand and deal with daily, or at least learned in grade
school, you had better have a good explanation or they'll lose respect for the "science" in your sci-fi, and you'll
have to hold onto them with old standbys like plot and character-development (and even then you'll lose some
of them).  Attractive girls in supporting roles may also help hold your traditionally mostly-male audience.
(I'm right there with ya MuffinJar...)

...and, of course, your own success can come back and bite you in the ass. 
"Hey RTD!  We need to replace Dave, but it says here in one of the old scripts from '76 that a
Timelord can only regenerate 12 times, and they're all accounted-for already..."
  Who'da thunk
any franchise would survive TEN different people playing the same character?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 01, 2010, 03:26:40 PM
I loathe River Song and I just want to kill her.
I hate her so much. Uggghghh. I wanted to kick the screen in when she responded to his question about if he could trust her. I forget exactly what she said, but IT STILL SEEMS SO FUCKING OBNOXIOUS AND STUPID ARGHARGHARGHARGHARGHARGHARGHARGHARGHARGHARGHARGHARGH.

I also hated Amy's coming on to the Doctor.
Seriously.
So obvious...and yet...I had so hoped that it wouldn't happen.
Because it was lame.

Aside from that, didn't mind a great deal of it. I didn't like how the scene where they figured out what was wrong with Amy went, but like...the rest was alright.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Breschau on May 01, 2010, 04:54:00 PM
There's something about this series that isn't really gelling for me, but I'm not sure I can put my finger on, or exactly explain, what it is.  Just something in the way the characters are acting (or the actors' acting, maybe) seems off or wrong or subtley erratic somehow.  I thought it was just the bad Churchill episode, but I was getting the same vague off-ness for the angels 2 parter as well.  It's bugging me, like my brain's just not buying into it this time around.

Also, didn't like the bit where Amy's surrounded by the angels and they stay stone because apparently they think she can see.  And then they moved while stone.  Took away from the whole they're really fast when you can't see them blinkandyou'redead vibe imo.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 01, 2010, 05:37:18 PM
There's something about this series that isn't really gelling for me, but I'm not sure I can put my finger on, or exactly explain, what it is.  Just something in the way the characters are acting (or the actors' acting, maybe) seems off or wrong or subtley erratic somehow.  I thought it was just the bad Churchill episode, but I was getting the same vague off-ness for the angels 2 parter as well.  It's bugging me, like my brain's just not buying into it this time around.

Also, didn't like the bit where Amy's surrounded by the angels and they stay stone because apparently they think she can see.  And then they moved while stone.  Took away from the whole they're really fast when you can't see them blinkandyou'redead vibe imo.

I agree with all of this.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Katherine May Williams on May 02, 2010, 12:00:17 AM
If I was a kid the angels would have me in screaming nightmares.

Good thing I'm 27.

Though I am considering hiding behind the sofa with a nerf gun if/when they return... :angel2: :violent5:


So yeah. Good stuff. Ooooh "the crack". Still like DoctorMatt, still like Amy, still like the Moffatt. Ra ra Doctah ah ah. Etc.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 02, 2010, 01:10:04 PM
Mahahhaaaaa, I loved it on Saturday xD I totally get what you mean about Amy coming onto the Doctor though - have they not realised yet, the best companion so far has been Catherine Tate, simply because she REFUSED to fancy him? xD Also I think it's a bit weird because there's so many little bits where he obviously thinks of her as... well, as you would think of someone you met when they were 7 or whatever. It just doesn't sit right, at all. Loved that ep though, loved it - though it did suck a bit when they were like O HAI YAH WE TELLYPORTED YOU. Wtf?

I thought the moving angels would be shit, but it wasn't, I think because it was so slow and creepy and stuff. Nice contrast to the jumpy jumps they usually have.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Captain Oblivious on May 02, 2010, 01:30:02 PM
I've just started watching the new series of Dr. Who...I haven't seen any previous seasons but I quite like it :)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on May 03, 2010, 02:04:52 AM
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/05/500x_dalek_war_low.jpg)


#@!

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 03, 2010, 02:41:13 AM
I am of the impression that River Song willl turn out to be the Rani
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on May 03, 2010, 02:44:37 AM
I am of the impression that River Song willl turn out to be the Rani
I agree.

Also I want that Dalek poster.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 03, 2010, 05:05:19 AM
indeed!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 03, 2010, 07:01:59 PM
... I totally get what you mean about Amy coming onto the Doctor though - have they not realised yet, the best companion so far has been Catherine Tate, simply because she REFUSED to fancy him?...

Better idea:
Instead of romantic tension or any of that, just let 'em ya know get together already,
and just try to carry on a romantic relationship even though sh's 20 and he's 400 or
something, and they're time-and-space travelling, and always in mortal danger, and
oh yeah, she's cheating on her fiancee...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 04, 2010, 09:03:59 AM

I am sick and spending lots of time on the couch, so today I watched the last episode again. I continue to hate River Song.
They've fucked with a lot of things (like the whole not being able to blink around Weeping Angels and then suddenly being able to walk around inches from them, eyes closed thing) and I won't be surprised if they (in fact I bet they probably will) make it someone who you wouldn't guess because it makes no fucking sense and then just go 'but that is possible because we made it so she can do this magic trick!' or something to that effect.
Ughughugh.
I am kind of annoyed with some of their quick workarounds and nonsensical out-of-nowhere fixes.
When I am watching it, I try to just enjoy it and just get over how frequently it seems to be happening, but it's started to really get to me.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 04, 2010, 09:50:55 AM
I am sick and spending lots of time on the couch, so today I watched the last episode again. I continue to hate River Song.
They've fucked with a lot of things (like the whole not being able to blink around Weeping Angels and then suddenly being able to walk around inches from them, eyes closed thing) and I won't be surprised if they (in fact I bet they probably will) make it someone who you wouldn't guess because it makes no fucking sense and then just go 'but that is possible because we made it so she can do this magic trick!' or something to that effect.
Ughughugh.
I am kind of annoyed with some of their quick workarounds and nonsensical out-of-nowhere fixes.
When I am watching it, I try to just enjoy it and just get over how frequently it seems to be happening, but it's started to really get to me.

Thank you for highlighting my previously mentioned  get-out of-imminent-death cards.
Lazy writing imo. Hmm how will we write her out of this situation... oh yes add a bullshit 'they are pre-occupied with imminent death' clause.

Bitch should have died four times over :P
then the doctor should have had to return the dead corpse to her fiancee and get a kicking form both the bride and grooms families :)
then the raggedy and now bloody doctor would hobble to police box and retreat to die in space alone and in a silly bow-tie
the end
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 04, 2010, 09:19:18 PM
... I totally get what you mean about Amy coming onto the Doctor though - have they not realised yet, the best companion so far has been Catherine Tate, simply because she REFUSED to fancy him?...

Better idea:
Instead of romantic tension or any of that, just let 'em ya know get together already,
and just try to carry on a romantic relationship even though sh's 20 and he's 400 or
something, and they're time-and-space travelling, and always in mortal danger, and
oh yeah, she's cheating on her fiancee...
All right then...  I've finished watching the 2-part weeping angels episode, and I am now certain...

Come end of the season, The Doctor, for the sake of the entire Universe, will have to
hurl himself into that "special opening" in Amy's bedroom.....  and keep at it until she's
completely "sorted out" [wink wink nudge nudge know-what-I-mean]

...and if there's any flexibility at all there, I would like to volunteer to save the Universe.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 05, 2010, 02:19:16 AM
... I totally get what you mean about Amy coming onto the Doctor though - have they not realised yet, the best companion so far has been Catherine Tate, simply because she REFUSED to fancy him?...

Better idea:
Instead of romantic tension or any of that, just let 'em ya know get together already,
and just try to carry on a romantic relationship even though sh's 20 and he's 400 or
something, and they're time-and-space travelling, and always in mortal danger, and
oh yeah, she's cheating on her fiancee...
All right then...  I've finished watching the 2-part weeping angels episode, and I am now certain...

Come end of the season, The Doctor, for the sake of the entire Universe, will have to
hurl himself into that "special opening" in Amy's bedroom.....  and keep at it until she's
completely "sorted out" [wink wink nudge nudge know-what-I-mean]

...and if there's any flexibility at all there, I would like to volunteer to save the Universe.
.... he may even use his sonic screwdriver
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 05, 2010, 06:43:21 AM
... I totally get what you mean about Amy coming onto the Doctor though - have they not realised yet, the best companion so far has been Catherine Tate, simply because she REFUSED to fancy him?...

Better idea:
Instead of romantic tension or any of that, just let 'em ya know get together already,
and just try to carry on a romantic relationship even though sh's 20 and he's 400 or
something, and they're time-and-space travelling, and always in mortal danger, and
oh yeah, she's cheating on her fiancee...
All right then...  I've finished watching the 2-part weeping angels episode, and I am now certain...

Come end of the season, The Doctor, for the sake of the entire Universe, will have to
hurl himself into that "special opening" in Amy's bedroom.....  and keep at it until she's
completely "sorted out" [wink wink nudge nudge know-what-I-mean]

...and if there's any flexibility at all there, I would like to volunteer to save the Universe.
.... he may even use his sonic screwdriver

I know it buzzes when he uses it but a light up sonic-screwdriver/vibrator might be a bit weird for Amy.
plus the new one has the spring out spikes which might be a tad uncomfortable... unless she is into S+M ;)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on May 05, 2010, 08:12:44 PM
Terry Pratchett vs Doctor Who http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/05/03/guest-blog-terry-pratchett-on-doctor-who/

He's right.


But I still love The Doctor. Nothing will ever change that. Well almost nothing.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 07, 2010, 02:31:04 AM
Its interesting that the episodes that mr Pratchett thought were the best were Steven Moffat episodes (and one by paul Cornell) the ones he seemed to find ridiculous were Russel T Davis scripts
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 07, 2010, 10:21:57 AM
RTD is ridiculous xD I find it quite funny and charming, but he is ridiculous - like there's nothing the world needs more than a giant cyberman and a hot air balloon. Obviously xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 07, 2010, 10:43:48 AM
it's like RTD thought he was writing a kiddie show...... Steven moffat seems to treat it more likke he is writing a supernatural/scifi/fantasy drama....
oh and bring back Sapphire and Steel!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAMorsWt4W8&feature=related
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 07, 2010, 01:47:41 PM
it's like RTD thought he was writing a kiddie show......
Takin' the Doctor back to his roots...

(That doesn't really hold up, since it may have started out as a show for young Britons,
but it was more "Educational Television" than "a kiddie show"....)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 07, 2010, 03:35:56 PM
and kiddies back in the 60's had a better understanding of plot, science, horror etc than the dumbed down audience we are now expected to be
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 07, 2010, 07:59:46 PM
and kiddies back in the 60's had a better understanding of plot, science, horror etc than the dumbed down audience we are now expected to be
Well, as I understand it, the point was more to present them with history and science
lessons in an engaging and interesting fromat, plot be damned...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 08, 2010, 02:21:08 PM
rant rant crappy cgi fish thing blah blahb

dr theme with musical tesla coils win!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or-RvcHEDAk&feature=related
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 08, 2010, 02:23:05 PM
^^ Grumblebum. I liked this week :D Hated the CGI, mind you - my heart sank when I saw it. Can't stand this Rory chap either.

BUT!! Doesn't next week look exciting?!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Matty on May 08, 2010, 02:43:32 PM
I just started watching the older episodes for the first time. Very interesting....the first Doctor was a total dick. :p
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 08, 2010, 02:45:56 PM
^^ Grumblebum. I liked this week :D Hated the CGI, mind you - my heart sank when I saw it. Can't stand this Rory chap either.

BUT!! Doesn't next week look exciting?!

I didnt mind this week but the cgi was crap wonder how much they company is being paid - students at my work create better cgi on Maya and XSI
they kinda sidetracked her reasons for kissing the doctor, and hmm why could the brothers under the water (if there were 10,000) rise up and kill the doctor?
why send the women and ruin the countess fishy mc fishendoms plans?
it makes no sense why did she seem all shocked when the ladies all died? She had two options - her son or the army underwater (guess the cgi budget didn't allow for 10,000 crap fishymen

ps rory is a dick
pps does she look 12 to everyone else?
(http://www.themindrobber.co.uk/matt-smith-karen-gillan-amy-pond/karen-gillan2.jpg)


anyway TESLA COILS are cool!
Jesse you are probably the most likely to know how to make one of these um can you make me one of these :P


Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 08, 2010, 02:51:31 PM
hmmm... the fishies could have been better......but the real annoyance was the sword fight end....where the fuck did the sunlight come from and why did fishy suddenly explode? all that happened to the others was a mild case of cringeing.... also why did the perception filter keep working after she dropped it?  also what exactly did she take off as without the perception filter she was a big naked fishy lobster creature.... this could have been far more lovecraftian with them being Deep ones etc..... (also would have allowed a sequal in 1920's New England)

otherwise thoroughly enjoyed it.... even if Claus Kinsky never showed up (horror film buffs....name that film)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 08, 2010, 02:53:13 PM
p.s. does next weeks  look like a sandman story?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Katherine May Williams on May 08, 2010, 04:11:47 PM
this weeks vampires in venice ep was a bit rubbish. not particularly engaging or original or funny or.. anything, really. shitty CGI too.

And I can't be arsed with Mickey Rory. Amy's fine, but honestly FUCK her boyfriend. I didn't care when Rose had one, I didn't care when whatsherface had one, I don't care about this one.

next weeks looks like it could be interesting.

PS - is the dreammaster fella from the trailer.. Truman Capote?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 08, 2010, 04:12:34 PM
PS - is the dreammaster fella from the trailer.. Truman Capote?

*nodsnods* Completement.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 08, 2010, 08:25:40 PM

otherwise thoroughly enjoyed it.... even if Claus Kinsky never showed up (horror film buffs....name that film)

Dear Robin, do I honour this with a response :P
Werner Herzog's remake of Nosferatu?
or did he do a lobster horrow too :P
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 08, 2010, 08:44:25 PM

otherwise thoroughly enjoyed it.... even if Claus Kinsky never showed up (horror film buffs....name that film)

Dear Robin, do I honour this with a response :P
Werner Herzog's remake of Nosferatu?
or did he do a lobster horrow too :P
actually i was refering to Vampire in Venice which can loosely be seen as a sequel to Nosferatu.... no prize for you!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 09, 2010, 01:26:57 AM
Not specific to Dr. 11, but I was watching a film this evening, and experienced
what I can only think of as an epiphany....

As we all know, "The Doctor" is a Timelord, as is "The Master"...
Well, I have identified yet another...... 





The Nanny

(http://www.swide.com/filemanager/cms_dolcegabbana/BlogImage/celebrities/Kylie_Minogue_Miss_Siciliy/Kylie/mary-poppins.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 09, 2010, 02:08:26 AM
almost certainly true
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on May 12, 2010, 04:01:06 PM
I just started watching the older episodes for the first time. Very interesting....the first Doctor was a total dick. :p

Yeah he was. I love that he is a total prick. The Doctor is a bit too nice these days, though I still love the show.

The 3rd Doctor has become one of my favorites (though the 4th is my first, and my all time most treasured). He has some great quotes.

3rd Doctor:"I have some interesting information you might like to know..."
Other guy: "Oh? and what is that?"
3rd Doctor: "That you sir, ARE A NINCOMPOOP!"
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Matty on May 15, 2010, 02:25:59 AM
I just started watching the older episodes for the first time. Very interesting....the first Doctor was a total dick. :p

Yeah he was. I love that he is a total prick. The Doctor is a bit too nice these days, though I still love the show.

The 3rd Doctor has become one of my favorites (though the 4th is my first, and my all time most treasured). He has some great quotes.

3rd Doctor:"I have some interesting information you might like to know..."
Other guy: "Oh? and what is that?"
3rd Doctor: "That you sir, ARE A NINCOMPOOP!"

From what I can tell (I'm only watching one serial from each classic doctor presently) the third doctor really planted the seed for the doctor's signature eccentricity, and the forth really brought it to fruition. I find that I like it more when the Doctor has a male companion, odd since he's more often paired with a woman. Something that sort of annoys me is the trend since the new show started to feature only companions from now on earth (Jack excluded). Never someone from the 18th century or the 25th century or from a distant planet. Not that I don't love the show, and I do love Amy, but it gets a bit stale.
I hope to see more of River Song, her escape in the beginning of 'The Time Of Angels' was so motherfucking totally badass.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 15, 2010, 02:17:20 PM
Didn't like tonights episode that much.
The plot was sort of...a big...nothing.
Lots of good one liners though.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 16, 2010, 07:54:22 AM
So if the DR keeps getting younger when he regenerates...

why was he and the master children on gallifray?
HA :P

I bet his name gets revealed as Benjamin Button
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: 24hourchemist on May 16, 2010, 08:45:06 AM
This is a bit off topic but there's an elephant in the room here...

For the last 3 nights in a row, 3 of the BBC's most popular shows (outnumbered, ashes to ashes and now doctor who) have contained the phrase "There's an elephant in the room".

I'm getting paranoid.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 16, 2010, 01:57:57 PM
only worry when they say that there is an elephantelephant in the room....
Is it me or is this series looking more and more like quatermass and Sapphire and Steel (next weeks episode looks like  it could be a Quatermass story...or possibly going back to the John Pertwee stories)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 17, 2010, 03:18:18 PM
This is a bit off topic but there's an elephant in the room here...

For the last 3 nights in a row, 3 of the BBC's most popular shows (outnumbered, ashes to ashes and now doctor who) have contained the phrase "There's an elephant in the room".

I'm getting paranoid.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed that xD (In brackets to hide the extra unrelatedness of this sentence, but omfg it's the last Ashes To Ashes next week and I swear if Alex and Gene don't get seriously wet and organic, exploding loins won't even come into it.)


I watched Saturday's ep on Sunday morning - the mark of an excellent friend, I feel, is that I turned up at her house and went, "Maddison, I'm going to miss-" and she went, "Don't worry, I've Sky Plussed it, we can watch it in the morning" xD Love love love. It wasn't as good as it could have been, and I want to shoot Rory in the face.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: 24hourchemist on May 17, 2010, 03:39:51 PM
This is a bit off topic but there's an elephant in the room here...

For the last 3 nights in a row, 3 of the BBC's most popular shows (outnumbered, ashes to ashes and now doctor who) have contained the phrase "There's an elephant in the room".

I'm getting paranoid.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed that xD (In brackets to hide the extra unrelatedness of this sentence, but omfg it's the last Ashes To Ashes next week and I swear if Alex and Gene don't get seriously wet and organic, exploding loins won't even come into it.)


I watched Saturday's ep on Sunday morning - the mark of an excellent friend, I feel, is that I turned up at her house and went, "Maddison, I'm going to miss-" and she went, "Don't worry, I've Sky Plussed it, we can watch it in the morning" xD Love love love. It wasn't as good as it could have been, and I want to shoot Rory in the face.
if I write small, no one will notice I'm talking about the wrong time-travel programme...I am holding the outcome of Ashes to Ashes responsible for however I do in my exams, If 5 serieses of Gene Hunt awesome are ruined with a crappy ending I might cry!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 17, 2010, 05:13:38 PM
...and I want to shoot Rory in the face.
Does he remind anyone else of Wash from Firefly/Serenity?

(http://fandomania.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/wash.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 18, 2010, 07:49:11 AM
...and I want to shoot Rory in the face.
Does he remind anyone else of Wash from Firefly/Serenity?

(http://fandomania.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/wash.jpg)

NOOOOOO
wash was a great character with good one liners and great delivery - rory is just another pointless british actor with as much talent as a first year drama student.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 18, 2010, 02:34:13 PM
...and I want to shoot Rory in the face.
Does he remind anyone else of Wash from Firefly/Serenity?

(http://fandomania.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/wash.jpg)

NOOOOOO
wash was a great character with good one liners and great delivery - rory is just another pointless british actor with as much talent as a first year drama student.
Now now, due credit to first-year drama students...  I'm sure some are very talented.

Nevertheless, I was merely referring to a vague physical resemblance (and that, now
that I think of it, he's engaged to the protagonist's sidekick... not unlike Wash, who
was married to the protagonist's sidekick.  At least Mal had the decency to have a
separate character for his 'romantic conflict'...)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 19, 2010, 05:28:52 AM
So if the DR keeps getting younger when he regenerates...

why was he and the master children on gallifray?
HA :P

I bet his name gets revealed as Benjamin Button
did not that segment remind you of Spaced when they have flashbacks to their childhood?
I am assuming that timelords start out like normal gallifreyans and live a normal chronological lifetime, it is only the regeneration process that allows for younger versions to be created.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Katherine May Williams on May 22, 2010, 07:00:26 AM
So if the DR keeps getting younger when he regenerates...

why was he and the master children on gallifray?
HA :P

I bet his name gets revealed as Benjamin Button
did not that segment remind you of Spaced when they have flashbacks to their childhood?

*waits for Who flashback of KiddieDoctor & KiddieMaster sitting in a tree, KiddieMaster already sporting evil moustache*

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on May 22, 2010, 07:17:01 AM
So if the DR keeps getting younger when he regenerates...

why was he and the master children on gallifray?
HA :P

I bet his name gets revealed as Benjamin Button
did not that segment remind you of Spaced when they have flashbacks to their childhood?

*waits for Who flashback of KiddieDoctor & KiddieMaster sitting in a tree, KiddieMaster already sporting evil moustache*


So it wasn't the drums that pushed The Master over the edge - it was his detached retinas and his inability to serve in the Gallifreyan army?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 22, 2010, 02:44:14 PM
This is a bit off topic but there's an elephant in the room here...

For the last 3 nights in a row, 3 of the BBC's most popular shows (outnumbered, ashes to ashes and now doctor who) have contained the phrase "There's an elephant in the room".

I'm getting paranoid.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed that xD (In brackets to hide the extra unrelatedness of this sentence, but omfg it's the last Ashes To Ashes next week and I swear if Alex and Gene don't get seriously wet and organic, exploding loins won't even come into it.)


I watched Saturday's ep on Sunday morning - the mark of an excellent friend, I feel, is that I turned up at her house and went, "Maddison, I'm going to miss-" and she went, "Don't worry, I've Sky Plussed it, we can watch it in the morning" xD Love love love. It wasn't as good as it could have been, and I want to shoot Rory in the face.
if I write small, no one will notice I'm talking about the wrong time-travel programme...I am holding the outcome of Ashes to Ashes responsible for however I do in my exams, If 5 serieses of Gene Hunt awesome are ruined with a crappy ending I might cry!

Did you like it?? I loved it, though I felt they over-egged the Keats-is-Satan thing a little. Really still wish they would of fucked though xD But generally I thought it was fucking, fucking awesome.Pretty clear that they were like panicking a bit and just went, "Oh my God, what can it be, what can it- PURGATORY!" but whatever, it was fucking ace xD

BACK ON TOPIC!

For once, I didn't want to shoot all the Welsh people in this episode in the face. Well done, taffies xD Should I remember that there are reptiles underground though - did I miss something somewhere, because they're acting like I should remember that...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: 24hourchemist on May 23, 2010, 09:03:39 AM
This is a bit off topic but there's an elephant in the room here...

For the last 3 nights in a row, 3 of the BBC's most popular shows (outnumbered, ashes to ashes and now doctor who) have contained the phrase "There's an elephant in the room".

I'm getting paranoid.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed that xD (In brackets to hide the extra unrelatedness of this sentence, but omfg it's the last Ashes To Ashes next week and I swear if Alex and Gene don't get seriously wet and organic, exploding loins won't even come into it.)


I watched Saturday's ep on Sunday morning - the mark of an excellent friend, I feel, is that I turned up at her house and went, "Maddison, I'm going to miss-" and she went, "Don't worry, I've Sky Plussed it, we can watch it in the morning" xD Love love love. It wasn't as good as it could have been, and I want to shoot Rory in the face.
if I write small, no one will notice I'm talking about the wrong time-travel programme...I am holding the outcome of Ashes to Ashes responsible for however I do in my exams, If 5 serieses of Gene Hunt awesome are ruined with a crappy ending I might cry!

Did you like it?? I loved it, though I felt they over-egged the Keats-is-Satan thing a little. Really still wish they would of fucked though xD But generally I thought it was fucking, fucking awesome.Pretty clear that they were like panicking a bit and just went, "Oh my God, what can it be, what can it- PURGATORY!" but whatever, it was fucking ace xD

BACK ON TOPIC!

For once, I didn't want to shoot all the Welsh people in this episode in the face. Well done, taffies xD Should I remember that there are reptiles underground though - did I miss something somewhere, because they're acting like I should remember that...
It was brilliant! I think it takes a lot of skill to bring it together in a way that explains just about everything like that, although I think making it purgatory was definately the only option that would work. But WOW...I was in tears at the bit with the the tapes of Chris, Ray and Shaz.

I am still undecided about this series of doctor who. Since it's directed by Moffat I thought it would be much scarier but to me these episodes seem far less scary than the last 4 serieses.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 26, 2010, 04:41:24 AM
Actually didn't like the last episode.
There have been some that I've enjoyed less but I can't remember actually really disliking one of them.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Devery on May 27, 2010, 12:09:53 PM
I like the new doctor and his new companion, but the stories so far have been less than compelling.  Boring, even.  I keep hearing that Moffat is supposed to be so much better than Davies.  So far, I don't think so.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on May 27, 2010, 05:57:00 PM
I like the new doctor and his new companion, but the stories so far have been less than compelling.  Boring, even.  I keep hearing that Moffat is supposed to be so much better than Davies.  So far, I don't think so.

Sadly, I agree.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 28, 2010, 02:33:31 AM
I like the return to the multi episode story format (it used to be as many as seven episodes to tell one story) I do think that the silurian storyline is a bit on the weak side and appears to be a rather simple tribute to victorian and edwardian adventure stories.....the predator references are a tad lame too. the Silurians have been too humanised.....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on May 28, 2010, 03:14:25 AM
I like the return to the multi episode story format (it used to be as many as seven episodes to tell one story) I do think that the silurian storyline is a bit on the weak side and appears to be a rather simple tribute to victorian and edwardian adventure stories.....the predator references are a tad lame too. the Silurians have been too humanised.....
All of the storylines have been a bit weak so far this series. They aren't terrible, they just aren't great.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 28, 2010, 09:08:48 AM
we will just have to wait for Neil Gaiman's episode, next season!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on May 28, 2010, 09:24:28 AM
Well, I guess I am alone in my love of the new series, and especially the last two episodes? Not alone really, my Wife seems to like them too. That is a big deal too, because she was a David worshiper through and through.

I like this season so far because it just seems to be so much closer in style and feel to the early days of the show.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 30, 2010, 07:29:59 AM
I don't know what I think of last nights one. It was better than the one before it though.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 31, 2010, 12:12:16 AM
Well...  I hope you people are happy.   >:(

You didn't like... um....    :-\

What was I talking about?  Oh anyway, I really do hope you people are happy.   :)
This new Doctor is spiffy, and his Companion?  HOT   :o  ^-^ (and I think she kinda digs him)...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 31, 2010, 03:08:08 AM
The twist at the end was unexpected! this should make things a tad more interesting. and yes I am enjoying this series so far.... next weeks looks like it might have a bad cgi monster though
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 31, 2010, 02:48:39 PM
Mahahahaaaaa. Suck on that, Rory, you freakishly-large-nosed knobjockey.

I really liked the last episode, and I'm actually getting a bit pissed off and nervy about that crack thing... which is good! Much more curious about this than I was about Bad Wolf and all that. Still don't quite understand why/how they were being followed by Bad Wolf, I think I missed that xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on June 01, 2010, 04:11:52 AM
RORY will return - The crack in the wall will fix all. (most likely in a dull plot device way)
until then enjoy a Rory free doctor who.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 01, 2010, 10:15:33 AM
RORY will return - The crack in the wall will fix all. (most likely in a dull plot device way)
until then enjoy a Rory free doctor who.

What's a "RORY"?  :dontknow:
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 01, 2010, 02:27:33 PM
RORY will return - The crack in the wall will fix all. (most likely in a dull plot device way)
until then enjoy a Rory free doctor who.


Of course he will - this is what we expect from The Who. They're gonna fix everything anyway, they've had to since they showed that Amy didn't remember the whole Dalek thang.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on June 02, 2010, 06:43:19 AM
RORY will return - The crack in the wall will fix all. (most likely in a dull plot device way)
until then enjoy a Rory free doctor who.

What's a "RORY"?  :dontknow:

I see what you did there
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: buttercup. on June 03, 2010, 12:05:00 PM
So, the thing I use to watch Doctor Who hates to let me watch the end of episodes.

But from this I know my dislike for Rory will be eased by his non-existence. Doo to do tooo do to. Also things Dustin has said. Stupid hot guy with a television.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: bambiraptor on June 06, 2010, 02:23:33 PM
Last night's episode was really pretty good.
It's a shame it's been the only really pretty good episode this series.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: 24hourchemist on June 06, 2010, 02:29:54 PM
Last night's episode was really pretty good.
It's a shame it's been the only really pretty good episode this series.

Agreed, that was the only one i've properly enjoyed so far. It was so sweet, I liked the story and the acting. Unfortunately the giant invisible monster that looked like a turkey wasn't the most impressive.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 06, 2010, 03:15:03 PM
Aaaah, I've liked almost all the episodes this series xD Last night's was ace - I actually want to sex Vincent up really rather too much. Omfggingerbeard. I loooove that the budget has been slashed and so everything's a bit shoddy - love it xD I mean, no-one seems to be pointing out that they're having almost entirely interior adventures :D Love love love. And what a stroke of genius - an invisible monster, so you don't even have to pay for the CGI, and a body so hideously mangled that they can't even show it ^.^
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: bambiraptor on June 06, 2010, 04:21:13 PM
I liked how the monster could be a metaphor for Vincent's mental illness, if you think about it.

My main problem this series has been the characterisation, or lack thereof.
I still don't know a thing about Amy Pond.
I knew so much about Rose by the time 'Rose' finished. I felt like Donna was a good friend at the end of 'The Runaway Bride'
And yet we're nearly finished this series, but still Amy is just someone who has abandonment issues and is scottish in a bad way.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 06, 2010, 06:39:28 PM
Aaaah, I feel like I know Amy! I don't think I'd like her if I met her, but I feel like I know her alright. She's ballsy, cock-sure, etc. And not a soppy-hearted, sentimental little twat. 's all good.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Katherine May Williams on June 06, 2010, 11:50:08 PM
I loved the Van Gogh episode. Made me cry. Twice. (okay, three times.)

I watched it on the iPlayer. I have a framed postcard of Van Gogh's 'Irises' next to my monitor. It's been there for years. When I spotted it in his studio in the episode I made a little excited noise.

The star-gazing scene was my favourite. When they held hands and watched the stars turn to Van Gogh swirls. LOVELY.

Want to go to the Musee d'Orsay now. I've been to Paris a few times but never visited. next time I will.

Ahhh, Vincent..  :love3:

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 07, 2010, 12:45:24 AM
I loved the Van Gogh episode. Made me cry. Twice. (okay, three times.)

I watched it on the iPlayer. I have a framed postcard of Van Gogh's 'Irises' next to my monitor. It's been there for years. When I spotted it in his studio in the episode I made a little excited noise.

The star-gazing scene was my favourite. When they held hands and watched the stars turn to Van Gogh swirls. LOVELY.

Want to go to the Musee d'Orsay now. I've been to Paris a few times but never visited. next time I will.

Ahhh, Vincent..  :love3:
I haven't actually watched this episode yet (I have downloaded it...)
...but I love this song, so I thought I'd share, in case some of you may
somehow not already know it.............

http://www.youtube.com/v/Gi_P8XwrSCU
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 07, 2010, 11:12:19 AM
The star-gazing scene was my favourite. When they held hands and watched the stars turn to Van Gogh swirls. LOVELY.

Was it just me or was that bit just a liiiiitle bit gay? ;)

I love Vincent too. Love love love. I was singing that song^ all evening though. Still am...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 07, 2010, 11:14:10 AM
I love Vincent too. Love love love. I was singing that song^ all evening though. Still am...
You should totally put a cover of it on yer album....  Maybe the last track.  It'd be epic.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 07, 2010, 11:15:11 AM
I love Vincent too. Love love love. I was singing that song^ all evening though. Still am...
You should totally put a cover of it on yer album....  Maybe the last track.  It'd be epic.

Can't play it :( But I'd like to.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 07, 2010, 11:44:27 AM
I love Vincent too. Love love love. I was singing that song^ all evening though. Still am...
You should totally put a cover of it on yer album....  Maybe the last track.  It'd be epic.

Can't play it :( But I'd like to.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MDT_zjAJan8/SiRFntXvjZI/AAAAAAAACOE/7nYnve_P3uw/s400/yoda.jpg)
Learn it you must....

Hey, WTF?  A Dr. Who thread this is...  Belong her Yoda does not...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 07, 2010, 06:33:41 PM
I caaaaaan't!! I can't do finger picking sort of things unless it's unSPEAKably simple. And I mean like truly, really, unfathomably easy.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 07, 2010, 06:52:38 PM
I caaaaaan't!! I can't do finger picking sort of things unless it's unSPEAKably simple. And I mean like truly, really, unfathomably easy.

Quote from: Richard Bach (In a wonderful book called "Illusions")
Argue for yor limitations, and sure enough, they're yours...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 08, 2010, 12:57:48 PM
SHUTTUP. I got the chords off the magical interwebs - there's bar chords in it :( I suck at bar chords!! I never have to use them! xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 08, 2010, 01:13:53 PM
SHUTTUP. I got the chords off the magical interwebs - there's bar chords in it :( I suck at bar chords!! I never have to use them! xD
...and yet, you could learn, thereby becoming a more complete and more flexible artist.
There's no harm having an extra tool in the box... one that you only use when you want
to, say, play a cool song like this one....




...And oh by the way, unrelated to Ms. Indja's prodigious musical talent.....

Can someone who knows of such things please enlighten me as to the correct pronunciation
of the artist V. Van Gogh's name?  Not simply the pronunciation approved by the curator of
the local art museum, mind you, as I have heard several widely-differing renditions, all from
people of some "qualification" in the art field, none of whom were, to the best of my knowledge,
authorities on Flemish pronunciation.  I am interested in how Vincent would have said it...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on June 19, 2010, 02:39:27 PM
What the fuck?

That's all.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 19, 2010, 02:43:09 PM
OoooOOoooOOOooOOOoohh I love Doctor Who xD

I realise there are many people who watch the show with a critical eye, looking for perfect plots and character development and blahfuckingblah, but frankly, if it makes me go AH NO DON'T! or WHAT THE FUCK CYBERTENTACLES! or jump or grin or whatever then it's a win for me.

SO excited about next week xD I bet there's some big fucking 'splosions.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 19, 2010, 11:58:01 PM
SO excited about next week xD I bet there's some big fucking 'splosions.
Either that or bewbz...  the mark of superior television.   O0
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on June 20, 2010, 02:41:12 AM
Amys crack is the cause of the end of the universe.... Btw the doctor had already sussed what was up when Rory showed up... he has a plan
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on June 20, 2010, 03:38:11 AM
Amys crack is the cause of the end of the universe....

This shouldn't be as amusing as I think it is.

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Katherine May Williams on June 20, 2010, 04:19:18 AM
no trailer for next week? booooo! >:(

also.. yeah.. WTF? (to all of it.)

Quite good though.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 20, 2010, 07:28:18 AM
Amys crack is the cause of the end of the universe.... Btw the doctor had already sussed what was up when Rory showed up... he has a plan

WHO CARES! The point isn't that he has a plan - like the point wasn't that Rory would be saved, or that Rose and the Doctor would eventually make out, or that no matter how hard he kills them, the Daleks will always somehow survive, the point is how we find out about it, and what twisty hoop-jumping they go through to get us there xD

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Breschau on June 20, 2010, 04:00:04 PM
Can someone who knows of such things please enlighten me as to the correct pronunciation
of the artist V. Van Gogh's name?  Not simply the pronunciation approved by the curator of
the local art museum, mind you, as I have heard several widely-differing renditions, all from
people of some "qualification" in the art field, none of whom were, to the best of my knowledge,
authorities on Flemish pronunciation.  I am interested in how Vincent would have said it...

Not sure exactly how authoritative it is, or how close to the original pronunciation, but the BBC's take on the subject: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/magazinemonitor/2010/01/how_to_say_van_gogh.shtml
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on June 20, 2010, 06:47:55 PM
TARDIS for sale:  http://io9.com/5568203/own-your-own-tardis-for-12000-to-18000

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: bambiraptor on June 20, 2010, 06:48:14 PM
Okay, that was a very good episode.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 21, 2010, 01:21:02 AM
Well, that certainly was a cliffhanger ending wunnit?


They best not have permanently injured Red, or I will be most displeased...



Can someone who knows of such things please enlighten me as to the correct pronunciation
of the artist V. Van Gogh's name?  Not simply the pronunciation approved by the curator of
the local art museum, mind you, as I have heard several widely-differing renditions, all from
people of some "qualification" in the art field, none of whom were, to the best of my knowledge,
authorities on Flemish pronunciation.  I am interested in how Vincent would have said it...

Not sure exactly how authoritative it is, or how close to the original pronunciation, but the BBC's take on the subject: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/magazinemonitor/2010/01/how_to_say_van_gogh.shtml
Thanks.  That actually makes pretty good sense all 'round.  I suppose I'd still like to hear it,
but that clarifies a bit of what I have heard.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on June 21, 2010, 02:32:04 AM
that was the way they pronounce it on Dr Who...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 21, 2010, 10:29:27 AM
that was the way they pronounce it on Dr Who...

Which?  I heard no less than three distinct versions....



In other news:
http://www.youtube.com/v/aWn_1yOFpfU
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 21, 2010, 12:24:14 PM
QI tells me that we all say it rlly rlly wrong, and what do we know from our lessons?? THOU SHALT NOT QUESTION STEPHEN FRY.


Want a TARDIS for my birthday. On 3rd July, btw. Post me shinies xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on June 23, 2010, 03:28:57 PM
I love Vincent too. Love love love. I was singing that song^ all evening though. Still am...
You should totally put a cover of it on yer album....  Maybe the last track.  It'd be epic.

Can't play it :( But I'd like to.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MDT_zjAJan8/SiRFntXvjZI/AAAAAAAACOE/7nYnve_P3uw/s400/yoda.jpg)
Learn it you must....

Hey, WTF?  A Dr. Who thread this is...  Belong her Yoda does not...
I can't believe you missed the obvious quotes that relate to this...

"That is why you fail..." and "“Do or do not... there is no try.”

Or today he would say "try to play song you won't, failboat ride you will..."
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on June 23, 2010, 04:04:55 PM
told you Rory would come back  O0
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 23, 2010, 08:44:58 PM
told you Rory would come back  O0
Who?  Ya mean that creepy Roman stalker-guy?

(...but of course you realize, to resolve our current cliffhanger situation, Rory must do
something no one would have thought possible, and River Song will have to invoke the
Vague Death Rule...)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 24, 2010, 12:55:15 PM
told you Rory would come back  O0
Who?  Ya mean that creepy Roman stalker-guy?

(...but of course you realize, to resolve our current cliffhanger situation, Rory must do
something no one would have thought possible, and River Song will have to invoke the
Vague Death Rule...)

VAGUE DEATH FTW!!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 25, 2010, 12:28:10 AM
told you Rory would come back  O0
Who?  Ya mean that creepy Roman stalker-guy?

(...but of course you realize, to resolve our current cliffhanger situation, Rory must do
something no one would have thought possible, and River Song will have to invoke the
Vague Death Rule...)

VAGUE DEATH FTW!!
Yeah, pretty much always....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on June 26, 2010, 02:18:28 PM
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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 26, 2010, 03:19:38 PM
vjkfhvjfkbhfjkvhdudh.

QFT. With knobs on. Shiny silver knobs that glow pink whenever Matt Smith's being adorable. Fwommmm.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: bambiraptor on June 26, 2010, 05:57:25 PM
ugh.
that was crapper than the thought of being trapped in a lift with richard dawkins, paul o'grady and michael macintyre while paolo nutini's music plays through someone's crappy tinny phone speakers.

shame.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on June 26, 2010, 06:17:30 PM
I personally think that the last two were a couple of the better ones of the series. Which is sad, because I know a few people who gave up on it halfway though.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on June 26, 2010, 09:30:30 PM
I personally think that the last two were a couple of the better ones of the series. Which is sad, because I know a few people who gave up on it halfway though.

Same here. It definitely improved towards the end of the series. I am glad I stuck with it now.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on June 27, 2010, 04:28:38 AM
is Rory still plastic?
for a moment there I thought that they were going to end up having the entire last series not happening
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Katherine May Williams on June 27, 2010, 09:41:37 AM
no idea if that was supposed to make any kind of sense. story got lost in the relentless sci-fi exposition.

it was alright though. some funny bits. grateful for the lack of big cheesy emo moments.

and I still love Doctor Matt Smith. he's my favourite (modern) Doctor yet. (Tom Baker still wins overall.)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on June 27, 2010, 11:33:24 AM
is Rory still plastic?
for a moment there I thought that they were going to end up having the entire last series not happening

...They more or less did. It's just that for some insane reason, they could remember it. And Rory was actual Rory in the end.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 27, 2010, 01:44:14 PM
No, he was still plastic - he just forgot he was plastic.

I love Matt Smith. I love that he's so sweet and gentle and kind-uncle-ish to Amy; that's kinda how I'd like the Doctor to be, rather than some mad love-interest thing.

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Katherine May Williams on June 27, 2010, 03:14:01 PM
I love Matt Smith. I love that he's so sweet and gentle and kind-uncle-ish to Amy; that's kinda how I'd like the Doctor to be, rather than some mad love-interest thing.

THIS.

odd that he's the youngest ever Doctor (and only, what, five years older than Karen Gillan in real life?) and yet he can pull off the "trustworthy-father-figure" vibe totally.

That's how the Doctor used to be. That's how I remember him being when I was a kid anyway (Sylvester McCoy era with Tank Girly sidekick, Ace). like a slightly mad teacher or a fun uncle. You wanted him to take you on adventures and teach you things.. you didn't want to snog him.

I'm all in favour of the de-sexing of the Doctor this series. Long may his asexuality continue.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 27, 2010, 03:47:56 PM
I love Matt Smith. I love that he's so sweet and gentle and kind-uncle-ish to Amy; that's kinda how I'd like the Doctor to be, rather than some mad love-interest thing.

THIS.

odd that he's the youngest ever Doctor (and only, what, five years older than Karen Gillan in real life?) and yet he can pull off the "trustworthy-father-figure" vibe totally.

That's how the Doctor used to be. That's how I remember him being when I was a kid anyway (Sylvester McCoy era with Tank Girly sidekick, Ace). like a slightly mad teacher or a fun uncle. You wanted him to take you on adventures and teach you things.. you didn't want to snog him.

I'm all in favour of the de-sexing of the Doctor this series. Long may his asexuality continue.

Just watched it again because my step-mum didn't see it last night, and was reminded of it all over again - I love love LOVE the bit when he's all strapped into the Pandorica and ready to go, and when he's saying goodbye he like kisses his fingers and pats her, it's just so sweet and not-at-all-sexy-ever.

I think the thing is that (I'm now going to talk like it's real, forgive me, I'm a daydreamer and such thinking is my Achilles' heel xD) going about with the Doctor would just make you feel brand new and young again; everything you'd see would be shining and bright and exciting, and to desexualise the experience just makes more sense than trying to make it all grown-up and adult and whatever. The point is that you're experiencing your wildest dreams and fantasies and whatever, and I'm sorry but NONE of my wildest fantasies have any sex in at all. I'm far too distracted by the robots and pirates and aliens and ray-guns to be thinking about my loins. Matt Smith's Doctor is sort of pushing the show to revert back to being about mad, crazy let's-pretend stuff, which is exactly what something like a TARDIS is perrrrrfect for xD

In other news, I love the TARDIS like an old, dopey dog. A labrador, I think.


EDIT - Was just talking to my friend Katherine about how long this set of Doctor Who will go on for; she thought I meant Matt Smith's Doctor, so I clarified by saying I meant that there's the Who-Before-Russell-T-Davis and they cancelled it, so how long before they cancel the post-RTD-Who. I then realised how much RTD-Who sounds like R2D2 and shouted "COINCIGEEK!" to myself in an empty house... But yeah, my point still stands - how long do we think RTD-Who will run??
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on June 27, 2010, 05:40:50 PM
No, he was still plastic - he just forgot he was plastic.


Not at the very end. They were back in time and stuff! They were back before that had happened. Otherwise Amy would have been like 'why am I marrying this dude who has like, apparently always existed as a fully grown man?' and...basically it was exactly as it was at the start except no Doctor.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 27, 2010, 06:51:09 PM
I QUITE LIKED THIS EPISODE.   :)



In two episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation.....
- "Remember Me":
A character is (unbeknownst to her) trapped in a contracting warp bubble.  To her, it seems
as if the entire universe is slowly ceasing-ever-to-have-existed, with no one else aware of it
even as they all start disappearing...  She remembers, but no one else does, and the computer
has no records of the vanished people and things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remember_Me_%28Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remember_Me_%28Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation%29)

- "Cause and Effect" :
Our heroes find themselves trapped in a time-loop (think "Groundhog Day") that always ends
with the Starship Enterprise colliding with another starship, killing everyone...  Each time the
loop "plays" however, the characters experience a  sense of déjà vu, eventually figuring out
generally what's going on, they leave themselves little clues so that the next time through,
they'll be better able to avert disaster...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause_and_Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause_and_Effect)

Just making an observation....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on June 28, 2010, 11:13:49 AM
The Good Doctor got onstage with Orbital at Glastonbury for a luvved-up version o the Doctor Who theme song.

see it here:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF_R5UJGt-g

 :glasses9:

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Devery on June 28, 2010, 11:43:00 AM
The Good Doctor got onstage with Orbital at Glastonbury for a luvved-up version o the Doctor Who theme song.

see it here:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF_R5UJGt-g

 :glasses9:

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Why not have The Doctor do a live rockstar thing in a future episode? 

I really liked the concluding two-parter.  The scene where the Doctor is unwrapping the universe and Amy Pond is just standing there in the Tardis in a white and black print shirt, shorts and pink sunglasses is just too cool for words.  I had to rewind and pause a couple of times.  I missed most of the year, so I am definitely stoked to go back and watch them. 
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on June 29, 2010, 03:28:30 AM
No, he was still plastic - he just forgot he was plastic.


Not at the very end. They were back in time and stuff! They were back before that had happened. Otherwise Amy would have been like 'why am I marrying this dude who has like, apparently always existed as a fully grown man?' and...basically it was exactly as it was at the start except no Doctor.
aaaah but the universe was reborn from Amy pond's memory and the stuff that was in the pandorica... which was at a time with a plastic rory ....it was the universe without stars and with no aliens that was destroyed (the dalek was resurrected from the pandorica)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 29, 2010, 11:53:42 AM
No, he was still plastic - he just forgot he was plastic.


Not at the very end. They were back in time and stuff! They were back before that had happened. Otherwise Amy would have been like 'why am I marrying this dude who has like, apparently always existed as a fully grown man?' and...basically it was exactly as it was at the start except no Doctor.
aaaah but the universe was reborn from Amy pond's memory and the stuff that was in the pandorica... which was at a time with a plastic rory ....it was the universe without stars and with no aliens that was destroyed (the dalek was resurrected from the pandorica)
SciFi General Rule #3: NEVER try to reconcile time-travel stories' internal inconsistencies.

(It can only lead to heartbreak and eventual madness, and not the fun Lovecraftian sort...)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on June 29, 2010, 02:21:26 PM
is Rory still plastic?

no he's wooden, at least his acting is! eh Caruthers! gaffaw chortle  :icon_rabbit:
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on June 29, 2010, 02:28:58 PM
No, he was still plastic - he just forgot he was plastic.


Not at the very end. They were back in time and stuff! They were back before that had happened. Otherwise Amy would have been like 'why am I marrying this dude who has like, apparently always existed as a fully grown man?' and...basically it was exactly as it was at the start except no Doctor.
aaaah but the universe was reborn from Amy pond's memory and the stuff that was in the pandorica... which was at a time with a plastic rory ....it was the universe without stars and with no aliens that was destroyed (the dalek was resurrected from the pandorica)

That also seems to mean that Amy's parents wouldn't have come back.
Rory did say 'I was plastic' when remembering the Doctor which means that he remembers being plastic but also that he isn't anymore, so that is just completely fucking unhelpful.
The universe was rebooted though. As in reset. As in not-pulled-out-of-some-chick's-memory-and-an-incredibly-badly-written-and-warped-reality.
I've been trying to figure it out and seeing what other people thing and it seems to point to: Rory that died and went through the crack in the wall is back, as are Amy's parents, who weren't around (so why wouldn't real Rory who wasn't around not come back?), who weren't even in Amy's memory, who were taken through the crack in her wall.
Even if that doesn't make sense, everyone knows that the people who write this madness love a bit of a resurrection, even if it doesn't make any sense.

Someone said this on another forum (http://www.digitalspy.com/forums/showpost.php?p=41348915&postcount=73), though:
Quote
And another "hmmmm" moment lol - on Wiki Rory is listed as a 'recurring character' whereas Amy is listed as 'companion'. I have a horrible feeling that he is going to turn out to still be plastic and River kills him (to make things as they should be)  Thus her killing "the best man" she knew.

I don't think it's all that likely, but I like the idea. I don't think River kills the Doctor because it's just too obvious. I think they're bluffing. Because they suck.
However, they have written in some insane bullshit seemingly only to make things surprising and exciting (and sometimes that does mean going for what everyone else is going to think is painfully predictable), so maybe she will. And maybe Rory is plastic. But I personally can't see that making any sense.

I suppose we will find out next year or in the Christmas special.


is Rory still plastic?

no he's wooden, at least his acting is! eh Caruthers! gaffaw chortle  :icon_rabbit:
Sometimes it makes me sad that I live with you.  ;D
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on June 29, 2010, 07:41:33 PM
I am new to Shadowbox. However, I SO knew I was in the right place when I saw this Dr Who convo. You people are awesome.

go here and say hi to everybody:   http://www.theshadowbox.net/forum/index.php?topic=2.2250

 O0

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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on June 29, 2010, 08:35:45 PM
this is just a rumor...but still...   http://io9.com/5575898/johnny-depp-playing-the-doctor-in-a-big+screen-doctor-who-movie

 :icon_scratch:

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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 30, 2010, 12:11:30 AM
this is just a rumor...but still...   http://io9.com/5575898/johnny-depp-playing-the-doctor-in-a-big+screen-doctor-who-movie

 :icon_scratch:

#@!

(http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/16593/original/vader-nooooo.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Devery on June 30, 2010, 10:55:39 AM




"I'm sorry, but this news is so fake. Its faker than fake. Its beyond fake. Even if its true, its still fake."




Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Breschau on July 02, 2010, 01:49:15 AM
(http://www.cad-comic.com/comics/64762d381278043206.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Devery on July 02, 2010, 11:25:16 AM

Fuck yes!

Johnny Depp - - no.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Katherine May Williams on July 02, 2010, 05:21:29 PM
series finale question... spoilers...

so.. erm.. why exactly did the TARDIS blow up? it seemed sort of central to the story and yet.. did they mention why it was happening? did i miss that bit?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Breschau on July 02, 2010, 07:39:55 PM
He accidentally activated the jammy dodger.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on July 05, 2010, 07:29:19 AM
series finale question... spoilers...

so.. erm.. why exactly did the TARDIS blow up? it seemed sort of central to the story and yet.. did they mention why it was happening? did i miss that bit?

That's the mystery!! I think was because of something River did, but the fact that it was in that time/space thing was because sooooomething called it there, but we don't know who or why yet.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on July 11, 2010, 08:31:56 PM
So I notice a new offering on Netflix today: Dr. Who: The Infinite Quest, an animated programme
featuring the voices of David Tennant, Freema Agyeman & Anthony Head (among others).....

Apparently it's targeted at a younger audience than current Dr. Who proper, but my question is


Is it Canon Dr. Who?  Does it "count"?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on July 12, 2010, 05:18:02 AM
If it's got "official" representation in the form of the actual actors being in it then I guess so. Sort of in the same way The Other Half is a real Serenity comic - it's just shit xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on July 12, 2010, 09:18:24 AM
I'm just concerned that cartoon-Dave T is going to do something stupid and every
future Doctor story will have to work around it.  You may recall that several of the
supposedly-limited number of regenerations were essentially used-up just so they
could add a little drama to [googlegooglegoogle] "The Brain of Morbus" story....  30
seconds of film and they created a problem RTD & Co. had to work around 34 years
later (then essentially just ignore when they couldn't find any way for the Doctor to
stay within his limit of regenerations without paying DT a whole lot of money.)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on July 12, 2010, 09:34:37 AM
I think people get waaaaay too caught up on continuity things like that. I mean, yes, so, he wasn't supposed to regenerate that many times. But then we wouldn't be able to watch Doctor Who any more - or we'd have to watch a really boring, pander-to-the-geek-freaks episode where they wriggled out of it scientifically. The vastest majority of people watching Doctor Who don't know about that stuff and don't really care. Better to concentrate on a higher standard of television and maintaining decent, captivating writing than dick about with the really nerdy stuff xD

I don't know if you know, but they have a ton of Doctor Who books as well - some of them are pretty good, if you don't mind looking like a loser to your librarian friends when you're getting them out ;) But there doesn't seem to be any worry about continuity in them, for the same sorts of reasons - the percentage of people who are going to read them, or watch that cartoon thing, is so small compared to the people who watch the show but nothing else that it almost doesn't matter if there's a little niggly thing that isn't right. Obviously I only mean a relatively small thing, not like the Doctor shooting Amy Pond in the face or something xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on July 13, 2010, 02:41:30 AM
i disagree.... if a show (indeed anyserialised writing) is to be of high quality, then continuity and consitency are extremely important... if you just go " it does not matter, the bulk of our audience do not understand anyway" then you will very soon end up with complete rubbish. as it is, they have already veered well away from original canon
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on July 13, 2010, 05:51:02 AM
Srsly? So you think these last series have been horrorshows because they ignored some geeky little tidbit from like 40 years ago? They're incredible pieces of television, with brilliant writing and some stonking actors - the fact that an entirely new generation are into Doctor Who because of it is surely more important than the fact the old fans are getting snotty about continuity?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Breschau on July 13, 2010, 01:28:54 PM
the fact that an entirely new generation are into Doctor Who because of it is surely more important than the fact the old fans are getting snotty about continuity?
That's going to depend on whether you're one of the new generation or one of the older fans, I imagine.  And obviously personal taste - what matters to you in a tv show.

In my view, the more they do whatever the hell they feel like without worrying about established lore, what's come before, or any sort of consistent framework, then the less it actually matters what they're doing now or what's coming next.  And that in turn reduces my overall attachment to the show.

So personally I'm currently treating it like an action movie: the plot, the lore, the characters - none of that really matters, so long as you know who the good guys are, who the bad guys are, and there's a sufficient volume of car chases and explosions (or nu-Dr Who equivalent).  But as with action movies, that does mean it gets a lower priority on my viewing schedule than other shows that are aiming for something more (which in turn other people may find boring or needlessly restrained and bogged down in details).
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on July 13, 2010, 04:10:22 PM
To me, there are two different shows. When Doctor Who started to fizzle out in the 80's and ground to a halt eventually, they needed to let it go.

Then they brought it back in full glory. Every Doctor, and all the different writing teams, producers and directors have made for a much stronger show. The past 2 doctors and the current one are miles ahead of what was produced in the 80's. Some things in the cannon have been re-tweaked or brushed aside wholesale. I can see why some people may have a problem with that, but I choose not to get hung up. It is a new show, and all I ask is for excitement, characters I can sink my teeth into and some fine quirky acting skills being put on display.

My only gripe is the lack of a worthy recurring sinister bad guy (who is not wearing some mask or helmet), and how they have cast "The Master" in recent years. The Master has to have some dark humor, a more simmering insanity(opposed the the all-out madman they wrote for the last one) and a bit of real respect for the doctor imho.

Over all I love the show, flaws and all. I also love Amy Pond. She is dreamy.  :love3:

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on July 13, 2010, 07:30:33 PM
follow-up question re. recurring nemesis-type villain (and not just in DW either):

Why doesn't the bad guy ever just walk up and shoot the good guy in the face
with a shotgun, then maybe throw his body on a bonfire just to make sure he
doesn't regenerate?


Why all the over-elaborate schemes and plots with sharks and lazer-beemz and
"escape-proof" traps and slow "inevitable" deaths that the hero can MacGyver
himself and his associates out of?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Breschau on July 14, 2010, 02:09:58 AM
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BondVillainStupidity


(I was especially confused at the way Prisoner Zero killed all the doctors and nurses and such with apparent speed and ease and lack of detection by the guys looking for it, but when it finally caught up with Amy it just stood and talked and growled a bit.. and then the Doctor arrives and it continues to just stand and talk.. and then the Doctor begins his plan to defeat Zero, even explaining what he's doing, and *still* Zero just stands and watches)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on July 14, 2010, 06:15:22 AM
follow-up question re. recurring nemesis-type villain (and not just in DW either):

Why doesn't the bad guy ever just walk up and shoot the good guy in the face
with a shotgun, then maybe throw his body on a bonfire just to make sure he
doesn't regenerate?


Why all the over-elaborate schemes and plots with sharks and lazer-beemz and
"escape-proof" traps and slow "inevitable" deaths that the hero can MacGyver
himself and his associates out of?
there was a wonderful 2000ad story waaay back in the 1970s about an academy of supervillains and how it is a career path like any other with rigorous exams and homework...... having the right exit line is really important as is wardrobe.... simply killing the good guy would be against everything ever taught at the academy.... you may win but at what cost to your professional pride?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on July 14, 2010, 03:16:14 PM
follow-up question re. recurring nemesis-type villain (and not just in DW either):

Why doesn't the bad guy ever just walk up and shoot the good guy in the face
with a shotgun, then maybe throw his body on a bonfire just to make sure he
doesn't regenerate?


Why all the over-elaborate schemes and plots with sharks and lazer-beemz and
"escape-proof" traps and slow "inevitable" deaths that the hero can MacGyver
himself and his associates out of?
there was a wonderful 2000ad story waaay back in the 1970s about an academy of supervillains and how it is a career path like any other with rigorous exams and homework...... having the right exit line is really important as is wardrobe.... simply killing the good guy would be against everything ever taught at the academy.... you may win but at what cost to your professional pride?
So....  The reason the villains always fail is that they have self-respect?

Huh.... :-\
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on July 14, 2010, 10:57:02 PM
I think The Venture Brothers nail the whole arching silliness perfectly. They really spoof it, yet make an argument for why it is so much fun despite how stupid the concept is.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: buttercup. on July 16, 2010, 09:49:32 PM
I want to know where little alternate reality Amelia went.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on July 24, 2010, 07:49:08 PM
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm251/blessedprime/gif%20files/wUsp3.gif)

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on July 25, 2010, 08:29:44 AM
I want to know where little alternate reality Amelia went.
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm251/blessedprime/gif%20files/wUsp3.gif)

#@!

Quite obviously she is trapped in a time loop contained solely within this .gif.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on July 25, 2010, 11:17:37 AM
^ MARVELLOUS jumper, Matthew!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mandolin Rain on July 25, 2010, 05:53:21 PM
this is just a rumor...but still...   http://io9.com/5575898/johnny-depp-playing-the-doctor-in-a-big+screen-doctor-who-movie

 :icon_scratch:

#@!

(http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/16593/original/vader-nooooo.jpg)


agreed. http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on July 25, 2010, 07:43:41 PM
long time no see *tips hat*

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mandolin Rain on July 26, 2010, 02:26:46 AM
:) *curtsies* yeah, i spend all my internet time on facebook or netflix these days. figured i'd come back here and see what's going on.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: FrailAndBedazzled on July 30, 2010, 10:35:49 AM
this is just a rumor...but still...   http://io9.com/5575898/johnny-depp-playing-the-doctor-in-a-big+screen-doctor-who-movie

 :icon_scratch:

#@!

(http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/16593/original/vader-nooooo.jpg)

agreed. http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
It ain't happening. 
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on July 30, 2010, 12:43:33 PM
yeah - it got officially killed 2 or 3 weeks back, I think; should've posted a follow-up. my bad.

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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Katherine May Williams on July 30, 2010, 09:03:07 PM
Saturdays are soooo tedious now.. :protest:

*waits*
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on July 31, 2010, 08:48:26 AM
Saturdays are soooo tedious now.. :protest:

*waits*

I know right! I've started.... dare I say it... READING. I know. I just hole up in my room almost all weekend and read. It's awful.

I mean, when I'm not off getting blind drunk, obv.


OH MY GOD WHAT DAY IS IT?? It's Saturday isn't it? OMG I totally forgot to meet my friend at the pub last night. Ooooooh, fail.....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on August 01, 2010, 01:46:09 PM
http://io9.com/5601726/print-out-and-fold-your-own-paper-tardis-and-daleks/gallery/

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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on August 01, 2010, 08:09:32 PM
http://io9.com/5601726/print-out-and-fold-your-own-paper-tardis-and-daleks/gallery/

#@!
I downloaded the Official Paper Model .pdf of Howl's Moving Castle....
I even printed it out on proper model-stock paper, but I only got about two steps in
(it's something like 16 pages of pieces to cut out and assemble) before I just couldn't
stay focused...  I suppose I'll finish it one day.


I guess a one-page TARDIS would be less taxing...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on August 09, 2010, 12:42:51 PM
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/08/500x_doctorwhowallpaper.jpg)

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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on August 09, 2010, 01:29:03 PM

I know right! I've started.... dare I say it... READING.

Me too. Being the total nerd jerkwad that I am, I am starting a Doctor Who book. Lolz.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on August 10, 2010, 12:10:38 PM
Who thinks Stephen Moffat should do "A Study In Emerald"?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: 24hourchemist on August 10, 2010, 04:24:59 PM
Who thinks Stephen Moffat should do "A Study In Emerald"?

YES! I think I just geekgasmed
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on August 15, 2010, 09:12:20 AM

I know right! I've started.... dare I say it... READING.

Me too. Being the total nerd jerkwad that I am, I am starting a Doctor Who book. Lolz.

I've read a fair few of them, tbh ;) Only get them from the library though, so I don't have to actually admit to owning them xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on August 15, 2010, 12:24:03 PM
me and audrey will meet Sylvester McCoy (the well known 80's Doctor Who) at the weekend  :headbang:
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on August 30, 2010, 10:39:06 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2010/08/165aa69af85ecb6fc7a4df4ee9f8af35/340x.jpg)

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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Captain Oblivious on August 30, 2010, 10:43:59 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2010/08/165aa69af85ecb6fc7a4df4ee9f8af35/340x.jpg)

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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on August 31, 2010, 01:27:26 AM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2010/08/165aa69af85ecb6fc7a4df4ee9f8af35/340x.jpg)

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I need that.....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on August 31, 2010, 01:33:18 AM
I never knew Daleks had such nice handwriting....
anyway.... Neil Gaiman is in Cardiff discussing his script at this very moment! (Matt Smith has already read it and thinks its awesome)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on September 06, 2010, 01:00:12 PM
this is the Wiimote controller for the upcoming Doctor Who video game:

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2010/09/84d1c84f7d65675c98a52bfa7693fb85/340x.jpg)

 :glasses9:

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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on September 07, 2010, 01:03:58 PM
this is the Wiimote controller for the upcoming Doctor Who video game:

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2010/09/84d1c84f7d65675c98a52bfa7693fb85/340x.jpg)

 :glasses9:

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High-tech nerd vibrator!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on December 28, 2010, 10:04:54 PM
Bumping this thread up because of the most recent Christmas episode, and I'm curious what you guys thought about it. I liked how they took familiar aspects of The Christmas Carol and put a sci fi twist on it. And I loved Matt Smith too, he's kind of adorable and quirky, but it works for the character.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on December 29, 2010, 12:47:22 AM
I was totally ready to hate it. I didn't. I thought it was awesome.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: armyoflarry on December 29, 2010, 02:38:50 PM
Loved it!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on December 29, 2010, 05:47:57 PM
I really, really fucking liked it. FISH!! THE FISH WERE AWESOME!! xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on December 30, 2010, 08:45:07 AM
the fish were excellent and reminded me a tad of Mirrormask...
anyone watch the little sneak preview of the new series afterwards? I am willing to bet the the Neil Gaiman episode is the one with the dolls
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on December 30, 2010, 03:07:29 PM
the fish were excellent and reminded me a tad of Mirrormask...
anyone watch the little sneak preview of the new series afterwards? I am willing to bet the the Neil Gaiman episode is the one with the dolls

I only saw a little bit of it, catching the end of the repeat of the episode on BBC3, but God DAMN it looks fucking awesome xD I am sooooo excited!!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on January 09, 2011, 08:35:06 PM
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/01/500x_docwho.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on January 10, 2011, 11:41:57 PM
That is the cutest thing I have seen! There was another Dr. Suess inspired picture floating around, entitled 'Oh The Time and Places You'll Go'. I'll have to find it sometime.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on February 25, 2011, 07:08:52 PM
http://io9.com/5770757/brooklyn-bar-turns-the-tardis-into-a-toilet

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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on April 19, 2011, 12:07:08 AM
spotted on the NJ Turnpike:

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2011/04/52e3e835c7af48cfbe357431988cf971/340x.jpg)

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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on April 19, 2011, 12:16:47 AM
Haha, that's great!

I saw a DW ad on a bus when I was in NYC...I forgot to snag a picture!

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 19, 2011, 12:37:28 AM
Ohbytheway.....

I FINALLY got around to watching The Waters Of Mars...  (I know, I know.... truly sad that it took so long.)

wow   :o
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on April 19, 2011, 12:58:56 AM
Did you like it?

I saw it a while ago and the end made me cry.

Oh and four days until Season 6!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 19, 2011, 01:19:30 AM
Did you like it?

I saw it a while ago and the end made me cry.

Oh and four days until Season 6!
It was amazing...  I mean, the simple-story was up to usual standards, but the underlying conflict
was one that WHO has skirted before, but never met head-on: How does The Doctor deal with the
things he mustn't change?  ...and then answering that question - original, thought-provoking, without
obvious simple answers that characterise so much TV writing...  and the twist.  :o 
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 19, 2011, 09:14:07 AM
^I cried my *eyes* out at that one. Then again, I cry at almost all Doctor Who xD Cried the other day at a repeat of the Christmas special with Matt Smith and the flying fish :'(
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: N.U. on April 19, 2011, 09:40:48 AM
I loved that episode. If you didn't at least get teary during that episode then you have no soul.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on April 19, 2011, 10:23:57 AM
I was thinking about the Christmas one the other day, my mom and I were talking about it and I mentioned the part where Kazran asks the doctor how he could spend one last day with his beloved.

The other one that I thought was quite good, and going back to the Doctor not being able to change events, was the Pompeii episode. The end of that one got to me for whatever reason.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: N.U. on April 19, 2011, 02:15:17 PM
http://io9.com/5770757/brooklyn-bar-turns-the-tardis-into-a-toilet

#@!

Wouldn't that make it a TURDis?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 24, 2011, 08:42:29 AM
Did not like the new episode of Doctor Who. No no no. Still not big on Matt Smith's Doctor or Amy Pond (I don't mind Rory but I also don't pay much attention to him) and also River...Watching her makes me want to set my skin on fire.
But I have seen very few things that were quite as bad as Matt Smith's acting in the diner scene. I've never thought 'oh, he's a terrible actor' either. I can think he's an okay actor but dislike his character. That acting was properly bad.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Zephyr on April 24, 2011, 01:07:53 PM
Not crazy about this episode either. Never had any problems with Matt Smith, and I really love Amy, Rory & River, but I really didn't care about this episode.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 24, 2011, 05:38:19 PM
seems a bit style over substance.....though i like the concept of the Silence.....only in your memory while in direct line of sight...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on April 24, 2011, 06:15:40 PM
I love Matt Smith, and I sometimes feel bad for him because he can only do as good as the script he's given. I liked the episode, I did, but my problem lies within Moffat's "this is MY doctor" approach to the show. I don't hate him, but I don't like him either. That being said, I felt a tingle of sympathy for River Song, so that's something. But I felt uncomfortable with how the episode started ... don't want to go into spoilers. Also, Silent/Silence? Totally based on Slenderman.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on April 25, 2011, 07:21:18 AM
^Moffat really does seem to have gone off on his own a bit since Matt Smith started. I respect that he's written some amazing episodes in the past, but he seems to be getting a bit carried away in places. I miss the days of him writing things like Blink and The Girl in the Fireplace. Although I am still very excited for this season.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 25, 2011, 09:34:28 AM
I really liked the new episode! Got properly freaked out by those alien fellas though. I mean really, they could be in this room right now and I'd have no idea because I'd just have forgotten it - *creepy*. I really love Matt Smith, think he's a properly charming Doctor. I think the weirdness in the diner was because the Doctor was so different earlier in the episode (so hard to figure out if I'm spoiling anything o.O) which is understandable given the age thing and all. But generally I really liked it - got very excited seeing Badger in the Oval Office xD

On the topic of the Moff (as he will henceforth be known ;)), I reckon it's really important to make it *his* Doctor Who as opposed to RTD's. One of the glorious things about the show is that, because regeneration changes more than just the body but takes the personality with it, the programme itself can regenerate and change and it's alright. I'm not sure if it's fair to criticise him for getting carried away when a) we've just had however many seasons of RTD and his penchant for melodrama and real OTT-ness (giant cyberman and a hot air balloon anyone?), and b) he has the bestest and most excitingest job in the whole wide world short of actually being a fucking Time Lord. Anyone would get carried away! Also not sure if I think he has, really, though maybe I'm missing what you mean. Splainy?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on April 25, 2011, 11:51:04 AM
lots of Dr. Who hints/spoilers at link:    http://io9.com/#15795115/awesome-casting-rumors-for-the-hunger-games-luke-cage-and-the-oz-prequel-plus-whos-writing-iron-man-3

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 25, 2011, 11:56:15 AM
Not crazy about this episode either. Never had any problems with Matt Smith, and I really love Amy, Rory & River, but I really didn't care about this episode.

I've never had proper problems with Matt Smith. Like I said, I might not be super into the character, but I've never watched him and gone 'Jesus, you cannot act for shit.'...but that is along the lines of what I was thinking during the diner scene. It was appalling, in my opinion. He wasn't pulling off the 'I don't know what you're talking about' thing very well. I feel like that part of the script was fairly flimsy anyway, but he added nothing positive to it. Anyway, while I wasn't hugely into the whole thing, that was the bit that I remember and feel disappointed by.
Title: Re: THE DOCTOR WHO THREAD
Post by: Andy Pants on April 25, 2011, 12:40:32 PM
I don't like River Song. Smartass bitch needs to die.  :knuppel2:
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on April 25, 2011, 01:03:43 PM
^ my friend and I were talking about River, and I called her a saucy broad who knows too much.

However, I agree with Indy, the show regenerates as it continues. Like I said, I don't hate Moff but I don't like him either. Sometimes his God complexity stands in the way of the show, but I don't outright hate the guy. RTD had his moments where he wasn't so good, as the other past series have had theirs.

I think the more we get into the new season, the better it'll be. The Impossible Astronaut had so many things to take in and I'm still trying to piece them together. But my love for the Doctor will never go away.
Title: Re: THE DOCTOR WHO THREAD
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 25, 2011, 01:08:46 PM
I don't like River Song. Smartass bitch needs to die.  :knuppel2:

Thank God someone else thinks so.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: N.U. on April 25, 2011, 02:07:41 PM
I love Matt Smith as the Doctor just as much as his immediate predecessors, David Tennant and Chris Eggleston. The only doctor I can truly say I "hated" was the 5th doctor, but that was because I suckled at the teat of Tom Baker for years; he was the only doctor I really knew well.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 25, 2011, 11:20:25 PM
I woulda sworn I made this joke yesterday.......


"The Impossible Astronaut"
?  Isn't that Kim Boekbinder's cover album of Amanda Palmer songs?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on April 26, 2011, 04:49:24 AM
I really liked the new episode! Got properly freaked out by those alien fellas though. I mean really, they could be in this room right now and I'd have no idea because I'd just have forgotten it - *creepy*. I really love Matt Smith, think he's a properly charming Doctor. I think the weirdness in the diner was because the Doctor was so different earlier in the episode (so hard to figure out if I'm spoiling anything o.O) which is understandable given the age thing and all. But generally I really liked it - got very excited seeing Badger in the Oval Office xD
I do quite like these forgettable alien folks so far, they're not quite as creepy as the weeping angels (which the Moff ruined last season), but I'm quite excited to see what the show does with them.
Also, I didn't actually like Matt Smiths Doctor at first (first episodes of his I saw were Fish from space and the Dreamlord one), but by golly has he grown on me.

Quote from: Indja
On the topic of the Moff (as he will henceforth be known ;)), I reckon it's really important to make it *his* Doctor Who as opposed to RTD's. One of the glorious things about the show is that, because regeneration changes more than just the body but takes the personality with it, the programme itself can regenerate and change and it's alright. I'm not sure if it's fair to criticise him for getting carried away when a) we've just had however many seasons of RTD and his penchant for melodrama and real OTT-ness (giant cyberman and a hot air balloon anyone?), and b) he has the bestest and most excitingest job in the whole wide world short of actually being a fucking Time Lord. Anyone would get carried away! Also not sure if I think he has, really, though maybe I'm missing what you mean. Splainy?
I'm definitely glad that he's making the show his own, if he carried on doing what previous writers had done it would get a bit old. I guess what bothered me last season (and a bit this season so far) is how he sort of seems to take that attitude of "OMG this is the biggest thing ever!!" with some of his plot lines which inevitably leads to a bit of disappointment when whatever's happening isn't actually the biggest thing ever. Also, I resent him a wee bit for those weeping angels episodes last season, even though he created them in the first place. Also, I find the dialogue can be a bit clunky in places, although it can be brilliant at other times.

And yes, I would love to have his job, would probably be not so good at it, and would definitely get carried away ;)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 26, 2011, 12:13:55 PM
^Do hope we're all aware that the Moff, although he is the head writer, doesn't actually write every episode and can't be blamed for bad dialogue in something he didn't write ;) Can't blame Joss Whedon for Jane Espenson's episodes. Though actually there are no bad Espenson episodes. I love her o.O Incidentally, she's writing for the new Torchwood series, which is pretty damn cool. Scary though - I keep seeing House characters in Stargate, Buffy characters in House, a Firefly character in Doctor Who and now this. Eventually all my favourite TV shows will combine to make one enormous 24/7 broadcast with vampires, doctors, spaceships, time-machines and lots of gay Welsh people.

</tangent>

I don't think the Moff does the OMFG-THIS-IS-ENORMOUS half as much or half as heavy-handedly as RTD's seasons. Also, if they didn't pretend everything was enormous then we wouldn't get so excited, and if everything really was that major it'd be a soap opera in space. Which actually would be awesome. But not what we go to the Doctor for xD

One thing that does get on my wick a bit about the Moff's Doctor Who - I really like how it plays around with what it actually means to have a time-machine and all the funky things they do with it, but sometimes it gets a bit overly complicated. I get it, but I watch it with my family and not all of them spend quite as much time thinking about science fiction as I do xD Seems like he could tone that stuff down a little and do something more simple but still awesome.

EDIT - Also just wanted to add in my official dibs on the position if there's ever the situation arises that someone from the Box has to become head writer for Doctor Who.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Zephyr on April 26, 2011, 12:18:14 PM
I'd actually prefer you as the casting director.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 26, 2011, 12:18:53 PM
Gingers for every role!!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Zephyr on April 26, 2011, 12:21:25 PM
excellent

I think Robin would make a great doctor.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 26, 2011, 12:25:27 PM
But I don't want to shag Robin :(
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: N.U. on April 26, 2011, 12:35:06 PM
Got properly freaked out by those alien fellas though.

What alien fellas?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on April 26, 2011, 12:37:50 PM
Slender Man? Shit, no, sorry, I meant the Silence. Those were pretty creepy.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 26, 2011, 01:43:27 PM
excellent

I think Robin would make a great doctor.
Spoilers
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Zephyr on April 26, 2011, 02:18:13 PM
excellent

I think Robin would make a great doctor.
Spoilers

Or you could be River, whatever you prefer.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 26, 2011, 02:55:45 PM
excellent

I think Robin would make a great doctor.
Spoilers

Or you could be River, whatever you prefer.
Doctor Who used to be an obsession of mine...i can still remember hiding behind the sofa while watching....used to carry around jelly babies as a tribute to tom baker when i was young
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 26, 2011, 11:11:50 PM
EDIT - Also just wanted to add in my official dibs on the position if there's ever the situation arises that someone from the Box has to become head writer for Doctor Who.
I dunno....  Have you read any of Sarah Doll's fiction? The girl's got skillz.

...and if ya give me just a second, I believe I've read others' writing as well that might qualify them for consideration.


Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 27, 2011, 07:23:35 AM
EDIT - Also just wanted to add in my official dibs on the position if there's ever the situation arises that someone from the Box has to become head writer for Doctor Who.
I dunno....  Have you read any of Sarah Doll's fiction? The girl's got skillz.

...and if ya give me just a second, I believe I've read others' writing as well that might qualify them for consideration.

I'm sure that's very true, and they can battle it out for places on my writing team, but I called dibs. There's not much you can do to stop me now xD

Also, no I haven't read any of Sarah's fiction. Linky?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: N.U. on April 27, 2011, 09:03:42 AM
Doctor Who used to be an obsession of mine...i can still remember hiding behind the sofa while watching....used to carry around jelly babies as a tribute to tom baker when i was young

but that Doctor liked Ju Ju Bees
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 27, 2011, 09:23:34 AM
nope definitely Jelly babies.....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 28, 2011, 01:05:05 AM
EDIT - Also just wanted to add in my official dibs on the position if there's ever the situation arises that someone from the Box has to become head writer for Doctor Who.
I dunno....  Have you read any of Sarah Doll's fiction? The girl's got skillz.

...and if ya give me just a second, I believe I've read others' writing as well that might qualify them for consideration.

I'm sure that's very true, and they can battle it out for places on my writing team, but I called dibs. There's not much you can do to stop me now xD

Also, no I haven't read any of Sarah's fiction. Linky?
Ummmmm.....  I didn't save the link.  MAYBE SHE WILL SHARE THE LINK HERE?  (Even if it isn't technically a finished work...)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 28, 2011, 02:45:36 AM
SARAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on April 30, 2011, 12:44:28 AM
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#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on April 30, 2011, 02:06:28 PM
Spoiler alert if you've not seen the one that was on today.


Cannot believe they're going with this whole Amy pregnancy storyline. Stupid. The swimming pool thing was tacky.
I didn't find this one as bad as I found the last one. There were a few moments that managed to make me gasp but a lot of it was also predictable.
Hate Amy. Hate River. Not very keen on Rory anymore, though I liked his little 'America salutes you' thing. Still dislike Matt Smith but there was one or two moments where I didn't hate him as much as normal.
It's just...so much of it was so cheesy and tacky and most of the current characters have about two personality traits in total.


However, my opinion on the current series seems to be an unpopular one.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Zephyr on April 30, 2011, 05:00:36 PM
Yeah... I love Amy, River, Rory and this doctor, although I think his acting in the most recent two episodes has been kinda "meh". I'm really not a fan of Math Smith, but I do like his doctor; if that makes sense.

I do think the show's gotten a lot better since moffat has taken over. Less whiney emo moments. It seems in the seasons before this everyone was just crying all the time. The emotion is a little more subtle. The swimming pool thing was tacky, I agree. But in series 1-5 EVERYTHING was tacky.

What I really didn't like is that series 5 had this huge buildup to the silence, and then this series they get rid of them in 2 episodes. It was pretty badly written, in my opinion. I mean, The Silence can make human beings build rockets to the moon and whatever, but they can't leave a couple of people leave them alone. I really didn't make much sense.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 30, 2011, 05:54:54 PM
Tacky?? Of course it's tacky. Doctor Who is the TV equivalent of garden gnomes and plastic flamingoes, bless it's cotton socks.


One question though - how happy are we that our consistently non-violence-inclined and anti-gun hero is now apparently agreeing that killing lots and lots of people with guns is cool and sexy? I am not OK with that. Along with Buffy, the Doctor has been a great example of gun-free awesomesauce and I just don't think it's right to put a character in the show - not just a character but a main one and one of the good-guy main ones at that - who thinks shooting a bunch of aliens dead is funny. It's not. Kids don't need more glorification of guns in their television and films and things, and Doctor Who has set a standard I think should be lived up to.


Also, loved this episode but had to watch it with the lights on because I got scarededed. True facts. I quite like the [teeny weeny little letters] plot, tbh. And I reckon the Silence are coming back fo' shizzle, cos those fuckers were creeeepy.


Fucked off with River. We know she dies. We know when and how she dies. She is annoying as fuck, and all this pouting about omfg-I'm-a-diiiie is just dicking about with the whole omfg-we-done-gots-a-time-machine premise but in a completely gratuitous sort of way. It's writing for the writers, not for the audience.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 01, 2011, 12:57:41 AM
....and anyone else feel that there should have been another episode in between 1 & 2 of this series...the kind of rushed through the second half of the story after taking aaaages to get to the point last week..... Kind of hope Rory finds out that he is still an Auton
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: cbkof on May 01, 2011, 01:01:43 AM
Very much liked Mark Sheppard as the FBI dude.

Very much want River Song to disappear forever, even if the Silence need to erase her from my memory.

Was encouraged by the opening of The Impossible Astronaut but not at all after that.

Agree with Indja about the gun happiness, a weak argument can be made that this was, after all, the idea of a member of the Silence.

Still, can't wait for Mr Gaiman's episode in a couple of weeks.

Also, very, very glad that we are getting these in Canada as the rest of the world does and not weeks and weeks later as has been the case in the past.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on May 01, 2011, 06:43:39 AM
And I reckon the Silence are coming back fo' shizzle, cos those fuckers were creeeepy.
Agreed. Like Niels says, it just seems too easy that they've been lurking around all this time, and the whole last season built them up, and then they're just like BANG gone. Also, "kill on sight" did seem very non-Doctory. I wonder if it might have just been an in-America thing, though, because the last couple of episodes have made several jokes about American gun culture. I'm personally keen for a bit more distant time and space in the upcoming episodes, as well.

Also, I have a question veiled in spoilers:
You know that bit where Amy was in that children's home and she saw the picture and was like "omg that cant be me", was she the one holding the baby, or did she somehow recognise herself as the little one being held? The picture quality wasn't great and I couldn't quite tell :\
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 01, 2011, 06:56:22 AM
SPOILERERERES possibly....she was the one holding the baby...the child will turn out to be River who is the Rani who is Amy's child due to Silence manipulation.....rememebr they said that her work was done...the silence are basically after time travel and it is all about getting timelord dna etc and creasting their own timelord
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 01, 2011, 07:19:00 AM
^Is this facts or speculation? Either way, I'm excited xD

@Astica - Right with you on the kill-on-sight thing. RTD's Doctors would have had at least a two-episode long pout about killing an entire race. The Moff's didn't even blink. As for it being part of the ooh-we're-in-America thing, I'm sorry but guns ain't cool - even in America. I know that I love shows like Firefly, Stargate, Babylon 5 and whatever - shows with guns and stuff as regular occurences - but those programmes haven't set themselves a precedent beforehand in the same way that Doctor Who has. Those shows are also aimed at slightly older audiences than Doctor Who, and it really has bugged me that they did this.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 01, 2011, 09:33:43 AM
speculation..hence the poissibly tagline! but that is the most likely set of events and thus probably is not the actual set up
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on May 01, 2011, 09:36:08 AM
@Indja: Maybe something will happen later in the season and he'll really regret it? It does seem a bit strange to not only say "kill these things whenever you happen across them so we can take back the world", but to then act like it's no big deal. Firstly because, as you say, the Doctor isn't usually like that, I mean he FREAKED out about killing all the Daleks in season 4, and those were the DALEKS. Secondly, if these things have been influencing the actions of humans for all of these years without them/us even realising it, surely the Doctor would realise that there would be consequences when that stopped/changed. But I guess we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 01, 2011, 09:40:18 AM
SPOILERERERES possibly....she was the one holding the baby...the child will turn out to be River who is the Rani who is Amy's child due to Silence manipulation.....rememebr they said that her work was done...the silence are basically after time travel and it is all about getting timelord dna etc and creasting their own timelord

If what you're saying is that Amy and The Doctor have a child (because where else would the Time Lord DNA thing come in? If that's not what you meant, I will be so confused.) and that child is River, then that is creepy. as. fuck. I think it's also worth pointing out that Amy and River both felt sick at some stage in the first episode and then in a great example of cliched storytelling, it turned out that Amy was pregnant. And River kissed the Doctor and has a thing for him and stuff.
I personally think that it's going in a completely different direction.

Tacky?? Of course it's tacky. Doctor Who is the TV equivalent of garden gnomes and plastic flamingoes, bless it's cotton socks.

Mmmm, that's true and I've enjoyed the tackiness of it a lot in the past. It's just that I can't fucking stand half of the stuff they've done so far. The pool thing was woeful. Certain things like Amy's pregnancy and all the stuff she said that Rory listened in on and what it turned out she had meant...So far, the first two episodes managed to include storylines and things that managed to be contrived and predictable all at once.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 01, 2011, 09:42:47 AM
^True facts. The Silence are clearly going to be coming up again later, so fingers crossed he'll get some morality. Still not OK with the guns though. Also a bit pissed at River's joking about how cross the Doctor gets about her using guns - an anti-gun position is not something silly and adorable, it's fucking right.

Sorry that I keep banging on about it, it's not like I'm lying here in my room stressing over it xD It's just more things occur to me when I come on here to talk about the programme in general and then I end up sounding a little but one-track xDMy apologies.


@Robin - I'm willing to bet any money that the option they go for is a) way less logical and b) way more OTT xD Bless 'em!

@Auds - Right with you on the creepy. I don't think River can be the Doctor's kid, I reckon it'll go in a whole new direction. On the tacky, what have you been not-fucking-standing?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 01, 2011, 09:45:10 AM
I edited my post because I realised I could have explained a little more. It's a personal taste thing and don't expect anyone else to agree because everyone else seems to be loving it and that's fantastic. I wish I could love it too. I'm hoping that Neil's episode will be the one that makes it all click for me because I don't think I've ever read anything by him that I didn't adore. Aside from Coraline.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 01, 2011, 08:51:15 PM
I love Matt Smith, and I love Doctor Who, but this episode made me feel like everything I knew and loved had been ripped away.

It was good, and creepy, but a few things bothered me:

- The Doctor is suddenly okay with killing/use of guns? Like ... doesn't that go against the grain of everything he stands for? Even if it is the Silence. Still...wtf.

- pregnancy test in the Tardis? Really. Really?

- awkward kiss ... what even.

- the thing with the kid being a possible link as River is mind boggling ... I don't know if that would make sense. Because just when I think I have things making sense, everything changes.

I grew to like Rory more...but other than that ... Matt's Doctor is kind of annoying me. He's more of an over confident nine year old in a nine hundred year old's body ... kinda like he now owns the biggest box of crayons and his artwork was good enough for his parents to hang on the refrigerator ... if that makes sense.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on May 01, 2011, 11:17:11 PM
- pregnancy test in the Tardis? Really. Really?
YES.
WHAT THE FUCK.
I meant to whine about this in my last post but got sidetracked and forgot about it. I mean, the TARDIS is certainly multifunctional. It can travel in time AND space, and translate languages, and do a whole lot of other cool adventury stuff, and I respect that, but since when does it double as a fucking pregnancy test?! I got the distinct feeling that it was just an easy way of showing us that she is sort of pregnant, and letting us know that the Doctor now knows this, too. It wasn't a very creative way of showing it, though.
I think she's phantom pregnant to the Silence, though, since they told her she had to tell the Doctor, and then she told him she was pregnant, its just like that Silence memory wipe mind manipulation thing that happened when the FBI guy straightened the Doctor's bow tie. However, if there is a baby being born, then phantom pregnant may have to change...or become literal O.O Presumably the thing the Silence (Silences?) were doing to her had something to do with that.

Also, I felt a bit weird about three months casually disappearing between episodes, even if it looks like nothing interesting happened in the interim. At least we know that Amy can't have been normally pregnant then, otherwise she would probably have started showing. Unless...did three months actually pass, or did they just jump forward three months in time in the TARDIS? I wasn't quite clear on that.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 02, 2011, 05:03:13 AM
basically a massive chunk of ...something went on between episode one and episode two of this series...kind of wrong footed and too many awkward questions and inconsistencies generated and character behaviours outside of the "norm" the silence area great creature....dealt with badly....if they have been at the heart of human civilisation since time began....why deliberately show themselves at that moment and manipulate things to allow their own destruction? why deliberately grow a timelord? (presumably using amy and the doctor for source material) and why let that child escape....all too much of a set up
.....hopefully the follow up episodes to these ones will make sense of it....in the meantime episode 3 and 4 are back to standard Doctor Who adventure
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 02, 2011, 05:19:54 AM

- pregnancy test in the Tardis? Really. Really?

God. Yes. That was awful.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 02, 2011, 05:38:17 AM
....at least she did not have to wee on it
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 02, 2011, 08:57:43 AM
It's better to have the test from the TARDIS than have him have to surreptitiously zap her with the sonic screwdriver and pretend he didn't. How else would he know and how would we know he knows without her knowing he knows?? (sorry... made sense in my head xD) It was a bit clumsy but the thing is, it's a fucking TV show. I know it's very exciting and important to the fans, but at the end of the day it's prime-time Saturday night telly and the vast majority of people watching it aren't going to care especially if it's a bit.... TV-ish. A bit clumsy, I guess. Cut them some slack - they can't please everybody and they'd obviously rather please the majority of people (the ones who think it's cool but aren't going to pick it apart afterwards or whatever) than the geeky minority who watch it twice then come to talk about it on the interwebs xD (Even though those people are totes the coolest..... ;) )


Aaanyway, having said that, I am totally with people on the whole wtf-happened-to-those-three-months thing. I don't think that they just zapped there in the TARDIS because of the bit with River jumping off the building and whatever, and the sheer amount of tallies on them all. I think what it was meant to be was that they were pretending to be being chased by Canton (is that his name? Or is that just a place in Firefly?) so that they could a) try and see as many of the Silence as possible and b) get the Doctor into that big boxy prison thing.

I don't think the Silence deliberately showed themselves, I think it was just another one of those TV things - the Doctor happened to notice them when he did because the writers wanted a space-launch episode and they had the budget to go to America xD You can't pull these things apart so much. I know it's fun to and it'd be nice if everything was tied up in neat parcels within the story, but it's just not going to happen. I don't think they're growing a Time Lord, I think it's something else timey-wimey. Looking forwards to it though. Reckon it's  real enough pregnancy but maybe the pregnancy is in flux - like it's not a fixed event? They seem to like that stuff xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 02, 2011, 09:58:30 AM
they DID grow a timelord...the little girl in the space suit regenerates at the end......their motivations for doing so are currently hidden though.....and at some point the timeline IS going to get thwipped around a bit because whoever was in the spacesuit and kills the doctor at the begiining of episode one almost certainly has, at some point to end up not doing so.....otherwise matt smith is stuck playing the doctor for 200 years
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 02, 2011, 10:12:11 AM
they DID grow a timelord...the little girl in the space suit regenerates at the end......their motivations for doing so are currently hidden though.....and at some point the timeline IS going to get thwipped around a bit because whoever was in the spacesuit and kills the doctor at the begiining of episode one almost certainly has, at some point to end up not doing so.....otherwise matt smith is stuck playing the doctor for 200 years
Duh....  The "Doctor" who got shot was his son, who just happens to look and dress just like him
in whichever incarnation that was.  In fact, Timelords probably have a pre-set progression: for example,
every newborn Gallifreyan looks like a creepy old guy in a black coat...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 02, 2011, 10:13:13 AM
Lmao, I forgot about the regeneration xD Sorry! Maybe the Doctor's Daughter will come back - that was a spin-off show that never occurred xD

I don't think thwipping will be completely necessary, I bet they'll find some way out of it. Wasn't he meant to technically be the last regeneration any way? Or is that the guy after him? They're just going to find some magic timey-wimey doohickey and all will be well. Maybe he'll suck regeneration magics out of the little girl. That would be nice and angsty xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 02, 2011, 10:15:28 AM
that all got reset when he entered the eye of the tardis doohicky   
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 02, 2011, 10:15:33 AM
Lmao, I forgot about the regeneration xD Sorry! Maybe the Doctor's Daughter will come back - that was a spin-off show that never occurred xD

I don't think thwipping will be completely necessary, I bet they'll find some way out of it. Wasn't he meant to technically be the last regeneration any way? Or is that the guy after him? They're just going to find some magic timey-wimey doohickey and all will be well. Maybe he'll suck regeneration magics out of the little girl. That would be nice and angsty xD
Didja ever see "Dr Who: The Curse Of Fatal Death"?   O0
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 02, 2011, 10:19:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do-wDPoC6GM
there you go
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 02, 2011, 10:31:37 AM
As far as I know the doctor can regenerate up to 13 times. So if the kid is a timelord then...does it mean it'll be the 12th doctor someday? I mean, it's possible. You can't have two timelords running around .... or can you? I'm really more interested on whether it's Amy/Rory's kid or Amy/Doctor's kid or ... dare I say it ... River/Doctor's kid (but that doesn't really make sense).

I kinda miss the days when the doctor's biggest threat was a human trampoline named Cassandra. Not that I don't love it now...but there's a definite change in how it's being presented. Which is nice, but at the same time I see certain aspects of the show that I loved being ripped away.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 02, 2011, 10:51:07 AM
As far as I know the doctor can regenerate up to 13 times. So if the kid is a timelord then...does it mean it'll be the 12th doctor someday? I mean, it's possible. You can't have two timelords running around .... or can you? I'm really more interested on whether it's Amy/Rory's kid or Amy/Doctor's kid or ... dare I say it ... River/Doctor's kid (but that doesn't really make sense).

I kinda miss the days when the doctor's biggest threat was a human trampoline named Cassandra. Not that I don't love it now...but there's a definite change in how it's being presented. Which is nice, but at the same time I see certain aspects of the show that I loved being ripped away.
As I understand it, there used to be a whole planet of 'em...... and even after that all went
kerplooey (I forget, WHO pushed the proverbial button that wiped 'em out?), there was still
The Master....

Anyway, the child would be a new and different timelord entirely, one would presume, and not the
anything-th 'Doctor' at all.....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 02, 2011, 10:55:17 AM
gallifrey used to have millions of timelords.....The Doctor is in some respects a rogue criminal who stole a tardis.......he constantly breaks the timelords rules of non interference and indeed has been put on trial for this several times by the timelords.....However between the ned of the old series and the resurrection of the franchise.....a time war happened that destroyed all the timelords AND the Daleks...(i know they survived....as did the timelords kind of) AND the Doctor has met himself/s several times so we should not forget this possibility also.... The little girl is obviously incredibly important AND obviously at least partially timelord......much as the first two episodes irritated me, I have a feeling the conclusion to that story arc will end up making it all make much more sense in an OH Now I understand why that happened way
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 02, 2011, 11:04:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51JtuEa_OPc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkmiefoRcfU&feature=relmfu
episode 1 and 2 of this years Comic relief Doctor Who....actually works as part of the series
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 02, 2011, 11:11:26 AM
gallifrey used to have millions of timelords.....The Doctor is in some respects a rogue criminal who stole a tardis.......he constantly breaks the timelords rules of non interference and indeed has been put on trial for this several times by the timelords.....However between the ned of the old series and the resurrection of the franchise.....a time war happened that destroyed all the timelords AND the Daleks...(i know they survived....as did the timelords kind of) AND the Doctor has met himself/s several times so we should not forget this possibility also.... The little girl is obviously incredibly important AND obviously at least partially timelord......much as the first two episodes irritated me, I have a feeling the conclusion to that story arc will end up making it all make much more sense in an OH Now I understand why that happened way
Yeah, that's how I'm feeling too. Of course it'll be fun seeing how many theories people come up with in the meantime. I'm most looking forward to Neil's episode. It'll be nice to see how he takes the characters and writes for them. I kinda get annoyed at the way Moff writes the dialogue sometimes, but that's just me. Then again, I was annoyed sometimes in the past series too.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 02, 2011, 11:14:10 AM
from my point of view Moffat is by far better than Russel T davies who seemed frightened of doing anything actually scary or dark
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 02, 2011, 11:30:40 AM
See, I don't hate Moff and I don't hate RTD but I don't think either one is better than the other. Although, the worst episode that was ever written (in my opinion) was Love & Monsters and thankfully Moff hasn't done anything that terrible.  ;D

I'm actually pretty excited for the rest of this season...there's going to be an episode with pirates and I can't wait to see how that turns out.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 02, 2011, 11:35:24 AM
next weeks episode in fact.....mermaids and pirates
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 02, 2011, 04:11:41 PM
@Astica - Love & Monsters pissed me right off, because the alien fella - Peter Kay - was designed by a Blue Peter competition winner and the prize was meant to be that your monster would be in an episode and everything, but then they lumped the poor kid with a shit episode that DT wasn't even in. Outrage. The new TARDIS console was designed by a Blue Peter winner as well, I am fucking jealous xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 03, 2011, 07:43:36 AM
BTW NEIL GAIMAN SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!
http://www.whosay.com/neilgaiman/photos/26685
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on May 08, 2011, 02:28:50 AM
in case you missed it a few weeks back:

http://www.youtube.com/v/fWnSOZ83Qg4

 :coolsmiley:

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 08, 2011, 03:52:18 AM
last nights episode....Good solid and standard |Doctor Who episode.....but NOT 17th century! you would think the scriptwriters would get THAT right.....it was pretty definitely based in the 18th century
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 08, 2011, 06:49:32 AM
This show is beginning to upset me.
I stand by my saying that if the Neil Gaiman episode doesn't interest me, I am not watching it anymore.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on May 08, 2011, 08:51:58 AM
last nights episode....Good solid and standard |Doctor Who episode.....but NOT 17th century! you would think the scriptwriters would get THAT right.....it was pretty definitely based in the 18th century
Haha, I was thinking there might have been a bit of confusion between 17th century and 1700s. Surely it's their job to pay attention to that sort of stuff, though? Regardless, I still enjoy using historical information from Doctor Who as if it is fact in arguments.

@Mr. Leave Me Alone: at least the Doctor was being all pro-guns in this episode? I don't know if that helps you. It helped me, although it seemed like a slightly uneven change from last week, which was a bit awkward. What in particular upset you about this weeks episode?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 08, 2011, 12:07:40 PM
I really liked last night's episode - though I've liked pretty much all of them so far :) But yeah, I'm with Robin - it was a good, solid Doctor Who episode that was the right sort of balance between a "stonking good romp" (xD) and a bit of emotional wobbliness too :) Also, PIRATES!! Always awesome.

Not sure if I care too much that they were Victorian pirates rather than 1700s pirates. I didn't notice, and I don't think it impacted on the story or whatever.

@Astica - Do you mean he was being anti-guns? It helped me as well, though I'm still stinging from last week a fair bit.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 08, 2011, 01:16:41 PM

Not sure if I care too much that they were Victorian pirates rather than 1700s pirates. I didn't notice, and I don't think it impacted on the story or whatever.


Haha, ditto. And I doubt that the majority of people who watched it would be that fussed. They were super piratey pirates! That's what matters.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 08, 2011, 08:46:20 PM
Two things I took away from this episode:

1. Eyepatch lady. Who/what is she?
2. Rory ... shirtless Rory, fantastic Rory, gorgeous Rory ... I don't want him to die. Ever.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on May 08, 2011, 09:47:12 PM
@Astica - Do you mean he was being anti-guns? It helped me as well, though I'm still stinging from last week a fair bit.
Yeah, and the anti-guns thing was good and regular Doctory, but it seemed a little sudden that he went back to being anti-guns after last week, which would have been like, a couple hours ago in Doctor time.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 08, 2011, 10:24:43 PM
@Astica - Do you mean he was being anti-guns? It helped me as well, though I'm still stinging from last week a fair bit.
Yeah, and the anti-guns thing was good and regular Doctory, but it seemed a little sudden that he went back to being anti-guns after last week, which would have been like, a couple hours ago in Doctor time.
Speaking of that whole guns business....
1.  Right after River made that remark about "you've got a screwdriver" (and I need to go back and watch
   in super slo-mo to check), it appeared that he did something with his screwdriver that produced a result
   very much like the affected creature being shot....  I need to re-check.

2.  When River did that little spinning-while-shooting-all-the-baddies thing, did it seem a bit familiar to anyone?
   I finally figured out where I'd seen it before, and it's really pretty damn interesting that River did that.....
   Here's a clue: No power in the 'verse can stop me.... "War Stories"   :o
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 08, 2011, 11:18:14 PM
I said 18th century NOT victorian....and a BBC show ABOUT time travel, should at least get that right (the pirate they used also has some historical basis and was active mostly at the beginning of the 18th century....but was dressed, as was his crew as pirates from mid 18th century)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 08, 2011, 11:50:07 PM
I said 18th century NOT victorian....and a BBC show ABOUT time travel, should at least get that right (the pirate they used also has some historical basis and was active mostly at the beginning of the 18th century....but was dressed, as was his crew as pirates from mid 18th century)
So they took a few costuming liberties.....

(One day I'm going to write The Great Essay on how we sci-fi fans will go right along with cybermen
and terminators and Klingons, and warp-drive and TARDISes, and all of that, but we bitch and moan
about pirate costumes, blood-type implausibilities and the like...  I'm not criticising, as I do it myself...
I just think it's odd. 

I suppose you, Robin, can be more excused than the rest of us in this case, as it is in your personal bailiwick...)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 09, 2011, 12:07:42 AM
indeed...and part of suspension of disbelief is to make the bits that are supposed to be mundane accurate...it is the juxstaposition of the mundane with the fantastic that makes a show work....Its not like they could not have set it in mid 18th century....it WAS the Golden Age of piracy.....but to have a TIMELORD who instinctively knows where and when he is, saying 17th century is a massive flaw in this continuity..the fact that the bulk of the audience does not care or know the diffference is no excuse for such shoddiness....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 09, 2011, 12:10:07 AM
indeed...and part of suspension of disbelief is to make the bits that are supposed to be mundane accurate...it is the juxstaposition of the mundane with the fantastic that makes a show work....Its not like they could not have set it in mid 18th century....it WAS the Golden Age of piracy.....but to have a TIMELORD who instinctively knows where and when he is, saying 17th century is a massive flaw in this continuity..the fact that the bulk of the audience does not care or know the diffference is no excuse for such shoddiness....
I can't quote an specific example, but hasn't he been a bit off on a
couple such estimations over the many years and incarnations?


(I mean, obviously in reality it's a case of the producers really not thinking
anyone would notice or care, but looking for an in-story explanation....)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 09, 2011, 12:14:12 AM
OhandalsosinceI'mjustnowwatchingit......

How come the Doctor's screwdriver doesn't happen to have an AED setting?

...or there isn't at least a device of some similar sort somewhere in the TARDIS?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 09, 2011, 12:15:01 AM
lazy behaviour in script and production is not a good sign......
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 09, 2011, 12:28:56 AM
Cee, they had to get rid of the device similar to AED in the Tardis to make room for the pregancy test. Obviously.

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 09, 2011, 12:35:15 AM
Cee, they had to get rid of the device similar to AED in the Tardis to make room for the pregancy test. Obviously.


Of course....    O0
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on May 09, 2011, 03:32:06 AM
@Astica - Do you mean he was being anti-guns? It helped me as well, though I'm still stinging from last week a fair bit.
Yeah, and the anti-guns thing was good and regular Doctory, but it seemed a little sudden that he went back to being anti-guns after last week, which would have been like, a couple hours ago in Doctor time.
Speaking of that whole guns business....
1.  Right after River made that remark about "you've got a screwdriver" (and I need to go back and watch
   in super slo-mo to check), it appeared that he did something with his screwdriver that produced a result
   very much like the affected creature being shot....  I need to re-check.

2.  When River did that little spinning-while-shooting-all-the-baddies thing, did it seem a bit familiar to anyone?
   I finally figured out where I'd seen it before, and it's really pretty damn interesting that River did that.....
   Here's a clue: No power in the 'verse can stop me.... "War Stories"   :o

1. Seriously? O.o I didn't notice if that's what happened, although my screen was a bit fuzzy. I mean, it wouldn't quite be as farcical as the TARDIS pregnancy test, but still very much not cool.

2. Yeah, actually, I thought that too. I suppose spinny-around shootouts have happened in a lot of things, though, and aside from shooting at things and spending time on space ships, those Rivers are in nothing else alike.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 09, 2011, 03:57:33 AM
frustrated with the unreliable pregnancy scan...the doctor gets Amy to pee on his sonic screwdriver....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Zephyr on May 09, 2011, 06:50:58 AM
Dear BBC

Please give Doctor Who more money. This is getting ridiculous.

Love
Niels

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear Doctor Who writers

Please try harder.

Love
Niels
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 09, 2011, 06:59:56 AM
Going to have to agree with Niels there. I don't know specifically what he is talking about, of course, but for a series that is getting so many great reviews for writing, it sure isn't written that well.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 09, 2011, 08:19:58 AM
its very hit and miss with writing and one feels that at times the committee process that is the practicality of all tv fiction has kind of gotten in the way....Of course simple things like deciding which century you are actually in, is kind of an important factor for a series that claims to be about time travel as much as it is about good sci-fi romp
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 09, 2011, 10:19:31 AM
I still believe Love & Monsters is literally the worst episode of New!Who, and even though this episode was at times ridiculous and felt off (I was watching with a friend and we both commented on how the pacing didn't gel) I don't think it could ever reach the level of sheer blantant awfulness that was Love & Monsters.

Although, I do think it's right up there with The Unicorn and the Wasp (but at the very least they had the time period right for that one).

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 09, 2011, 02:16:01 PM
^I really liked the Unicorn And The Wasp!

@pregnancy test - wtf is all the fuss about? How else is he meant to do it without her noticing? And of course it's unreliable, that's sort of the whole point of doing a pregnancy test on her anyway - to show that timey-wimey nonsense has nonsensed and keep the suspense.

@pirates - totally forgot that 18th century isn't 1800s. .....1800s is Victorian, isn't it?? Also, clearly it's an easy mistake to make. Doctor Who is still by far one of the best TV shows on right now, and though I agree they need to pull their finger out a bit, I'm just glad it's still comparatively awesome even when it's a bit rubbish.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on May 09, 2011, 03:55:15 PM
http://io9.com/5799824/neil-gaimans-doctor-who-story-might-help-convert-all-your-friends-to-who-fandom

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 10, 2011, 01:01:03 AM
indeed the neil gaiman episode by all accounts is a bit special....even the cast think so
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on May 10, 2011, 02:40:02 AM
frustrated with the unreliable pregnancy scan...the doctor gets Amy to pee on his sonic screwdriver....
You just know that somewhere, out there in the darkest reaches of the internet, a porny fanfic like this exists...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: N.U. on May 10, 2011, 10:57:50 AM
The original Openinghttp://www.youtube.com/v/bKg9tuSbXmk
Second Doctor:http://www.youtube.com/v/V0A655AXPkw
3rd Doctor:http://www.youtube.com/v/4ICQvmRAYt0
4th Doctor:http://www.youtube.com/v/wRhPM2wMzH8

These, especially the last 2, are the doctors I grew up watching.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: cbkof on May 10, 2011, 11:16:23 AM
^ three cheers for the BBC Radiophonic Workshop - nice try BBC Wales Orchestra but these still rock my world the way your version never quite does
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 10, 2011, 05:13:30 PM
The original opening is my favorite, although I'd be lying if I said I didn't like the newer seasons' opening. I have season five's theme as my ring tone.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 10, 2011, 06:33:40 PM
I like this version...  with the big friendly "HI!" and all....  :)
http://www.youtube.com/v/7XJzx8W0F0E
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 10, 2011, 07:10:49 PM
I like this version...  with the big friendly "HI!" and all....  :)
http://www.youtube.com/v/7XJzx8W0F0E

Day made.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Andy Pants on May 11, 2011, 02:13:04 AM
I still believe Love & Monsters is literally the worst episode of New!Who, and even though this episode was at times ridiculous and felt off (I was watching with a friend and we both commented on how the pacing didn't gel) I don't think it could ever reach the level of sheer blantant awfulness that was Love & Monsters.

Although, I do think it's right up there with The Unicorn and the Wasp (but at the very least they had the time period right for that one).



Was that the retarded episode with the guy from Little Britain who absorbed people? Fuck that was stupid. I don't think many people remember just how awful RTD was. The show was a badly soap opera masquerading as science fiction and squandering all it's potential. The worst episodes of Moffats run so far are better than the best of RTDs.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 11, 2011, 03:34:16 AM
I so agree....all the good episodes of the RTD era were those written and credited to others.... (girl in the fireplace.....the gasmask one etc) and even those had the touch of Davies cast upon them...Moffat is much more interested in bringing back the old idea of Doctor Who with it being a family program of sci-fi adenture and mystery with strong and scary stories......RTD wanted to make a childrens programme and was scared of the dark rather than embracing it
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 11, 2011, 11:24:06 AM
I still believe Love & Monsters is literally the worst episode of New!Who, and even though this episode was at times ridiculous and felt off (I was watching with a friend and we both commented on how the pacing didn't gel) I don't think it could ever reach the level of sheer blantant awfulness that was Love & Monsters.

Although, I do think it's right up there with The Unicorn and the Wasp (but at the very least they had the time period right for that one).



Was that the retarded episode with the guy from Little Britain who absorbed people? Fuck that was stupid. I don't think many people remember just how awful RTD was. The show was a badly soap opera masquerading as science fiction and squandering all it's potential. The worst episodes of Moffats run so far are better than the best of RTDs.
Yep, that's the one. The way I feel about it is this: when you're watching a musical, sometimes there's that musical number that clearly was thrown together at last minute. Not only this, but you get the distinct feeling that any and all inspiration from the creative staff is kaput.

that's pretty much how i feel about L&M.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: buttercup. on May 11, 2011, 08:01:00 PM
I've only gotten to see the second episode of the new season.

I DON'T HAVE A TV, I AM DYING. I don't have enough money to let iTunes gobbles it up either.  :'(

Needless to say I was little tiny bit confused, not having seen the first episode.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: N.U. on May 11, 2011, 08:12:08 PM
Sadly, Matt Smith is generation 11. According to Time Lord lore, their thirteenth generation is the last generation.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 11, 2011, 11:28:26 PM
When I was in New York, someone said that they're going to change it so there's more than 13 incarnations. I don't know if that's just a rumor, but I haven't really seen anything backing up that statement.

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 12, 2011, 12:46:46 AM
Yeah, they've decided that bit of the mythos is too inconvenient to keep.

Remember, the franchise is always more important than the story.   O0
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 12, 2011, 12:49:31 AM
I actually think that they may have done away with it already, due to all the weird stuff they have done with his regenerations....particularly the whole absorbing the entire energy of the Tardis thing
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 12, 2011, 09:20:28 AM
Ah, it's a dumb bit of continuity anyway. As long as they avert in a suitable timey-wimey whoooooosh! sort of way I'm sure it'll be alright.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 14, 2011, 04:13:56 PM
You know if Neil's career ever flops he could help anxious people sleep.
man has one of those instantly calming voices.

He could say "Now, I am going to gouge out your heart and make a hat from it, it will be quick and neat. You don't mind, do you?" and you would be completely at ease with his request.
Great episode. Interesting comments on the confidential too.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 14, 2011, 05:04:00 PM
twas well worth the wait and in tetrospct even the title makes perfect sense........no spoilers
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 14, 2011, 05:08:52 PM
...also...it is episodes like this one that make the entire mythology WORK and make it something that might actually survive another 200 years
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Kenny Wisdom on May 14, 2011, 06:17:49 PM
Surely the opening two episodes of this series have started the "Deal-with-the-regeneration-issue?".

Anyway, on first viewing tonight I kept nodding off. Nothing to do with the writing but a late night. So I just watched it again and glad I did. Made much more sense with both eyes open.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on May 14, 2011, 07:27:41 PM
like this?


(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/05/thevoidlooksatyou.jpg)


#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 15, 2011, 01:23:03 AM
If any of you haven't seen the new episode yet, you can watch it here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U0OXHZ39

All I can say is that I wish Neil would write for more episodes. Really a great story and lots of humor but also some pretty touching moments.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 15, 2011, 02:25:18 AM
not sure how to convey how good this episode is... if you watched Doctor Who 60 years ago it makes sense...if you started watching 2 weeks ago....it makes sense incredibly driven by the people not by the threat
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 15, 2011, 03:03:30 AM
You know if Neil's career ever flops he could help anxious people sleep.
man has one of those instantly calming voices.

He could say "Now, I am going to gouge out your heart and make a hat from it, it will be quick and neat. You don't mind, do you?" and you would be completely at ease with his request.
Great episode. Interesting comments on the confidential too.


Haha!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 15, 2011, 03:22:05 AM
You know if Neil's career ever flops he could help anxious people sleep.
man has one of those instantly calming voices.

He could say "Now, I am going to gouge out your heart and make a hat from it, it will be quick and neat. You don't mind, do you?" and you would be completely at ease with his request.
Great episode. Interesting comments on the confidential too.


Haha!
You know if Neil's career ever flops he could help anxious people sleep.
man has one of those instantly calming voices.

He could say "Now, I am going to gouge out your heart and make a hat from it, it will be quick and neat. You don't mind, do you?" and you would be completely at ease with his request.
Great episode. Interesting comments on the confidential too.


Haha!
thankfully neil has sworn to use his powers only for good.....I suspect neil might actually become the next Doctor and steal the entire series
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 15, 2011, 12:54:09 PM
not sure how to convey how good this episode is... if you watched Doctor Who 60 years ago it makes sense...if you started watching 2 weeks ago....it makes sense incredibly driven by the people not by the threat
If you watched Dr WHO 60 years ago, you're a time-traveller, so OF COURSE it makes sense...   ;D
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: cbkof on May 15, 2011, 08:04:14 PM
Caught the Gaiman episode a day late and shit, cried when Sexy disintegrated. We always knew the Tardis was wonderful but now we know just how much we knew it. Great show.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on May 15, 2011, 09:14:02 PM
Mr Frog usually watches Doctor Who because I make him. When this episode finished he told me he finally understands why I love it so much. He now wants to read some of Neil's stuff too. Which is a pretty big deal because he doesn't usually read fiction.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 15, 2011, 09:42:56 PM
I watched it with Seamus. He said, "It was good, for a non-Doctor Who fan". Yes folks, I'm going out with a non-DW fan. The stress may kill me. ...or him ;)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 16, 2011, 04:30:20 AM
I loved it and I called my mum and asked her and she loved it too. I'm glad, because both of us have hated the series so far.
Not sure I want to keep watching it now though.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 16, 2011, 04:32:09 AM
next weeks looks xciting too and we have yet to encounter the creepy toys
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 16, 2011, 07:40:44 PM
The Rebel Fish? Yeah that looks like it's going to be making me not sleep at all. Which is good, I love a good fright.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: guuurrrrrllltakeiteasy on May 17, 2011, 01:55:27 AM
I don't really watch Doctor Who, or know what it's about. I know that it was a show from way back when and now it's a remake series and the actor that plays the doctor is kinda cute. So I accidentally bumped into this trailer called Christopher and His Kind and I'm sure most of you have heard of this, or maybe not. But I thought you'd like it.


Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on May 17, 2011, 08:48:23 AM
Finally saw this weeks episode tonight, and it was so lovely :) it was one of those touching adventure episodes that reminds me why I love Doctor Who. I have to say that next week looks a little creepy, as well. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 17, 2011, 09:54:48 AM
I watched a Tom Baker episode last night. I've never really bothered with the old seasons before, but this was fucking awesome xD I wanna write Doctor Who :(
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on May 17, 2011, 10:20:45 AM
Which episode? I've been meaning to get into Tom Baker's seasons, but the only video store in town that has them is quite expensive and their Doctor Who section isn't entirely coherently organised, so I've no idea where to start.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 17, 2011, 10:43:04 AM
Which episode? I've been meaning to get into Tom Baker's seasons, but the only video store in town that has them is quite expensive and their Doctor Who section isn't entirely coherently organised, so I've no idea where to start.

I picked one at random, tbh. It was called State Of Decay. Quite enjoyed it, tbh.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 22, 2011, 04:19:41 PM
I swear to god this pregnancy test gimmick is going to be the death of me.

Even when the special effects in the older series weren't good, they were enjoyable. You update the show and stick a pregnancy test in the Tardis ... it's just .. I don't get it.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 22, 2011, 04:23:04 PM
I swear to god this pregnancy test gimmick is going to be the death of me.

Even when the special effects in the older series weren't good, they were enjoyable. You update the show and stick a pregnancy test in the Tardis ... it's just .. I don't get it.
Don't think of it as a pregnancy test - think of it as a general medical scanner, and The Doctor has asked it
to scan Amy for "pregnant"...  He could just as easily have asked it if she has cavities or itchy dry skin.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 22, 2011, 05:40:20 PM
Bah. I couldn't even make myself watch the last one. It was on the TV, I was in the room and not otherwise occupied, but I just could not focus.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 22, 2011, 09:31:30 PM
Rather predictable and standard fayre for Old Doctor Who..so kind of better than much of the revamped series....but REALLY predictable
Oh and i think there may be a chance that rory is still made of plastic, and elastic......
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 22, 2011, 09:35:09 PM
Whatever you want to call it, it comes off as sloppy writing.

Overall, I'm not loving this season as much as I thought. I like it. There's been some good moments. The Doctor's Wife was by far the best episode so far.

Today I watched The Idiot's Lantern just because I needed some David Tennant.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 22, 2011, 09:46:34 PM
I really didn't like the latest episode. And I think I've been the most consistent advocate for this season on the Box xD Srsly though, it was just... boring. I missed it on telly so I watched it on iPlayer and I really couldn't focus on it at all. Gah.

I'm coming to agree with the sloppy writing thing - it's alright, but it's not as snappy and awesome as it used to be. Hmm. Watching more Old Who on iTunes in the hope that one day I can write my own ;)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 23, 2011, 12:42:06 AM
I didn't hate it, but haven't they already done the "making peace with our synthetic doubles" gag
before?  Fairly recently?  Oh wait, no, it was the subterranean lizard-people who kidnapped that
lady's son, then the hotheaded surface-dweller killed the prisoner.....  Yeah, I guess they did do
this before.   And "continued next week"?  Who does that anymore?

Rather predictable and standard fayre for Old Doctor Who..so kind of better than much of the revamped series....
...but REALLY predictable
Oh and i think there may be a chance that rory is still made of plastic, and elastic......
Aren't MOST Cybermen made of such things?  Well, plastic, elastic and metal.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 23, 2011, 04:14:50 AM
Seeing as the whole universe restarted or whatever it was (I can't remember, it feels like so long ago), the Rory-robot-weirdness never happened. And if it turns out he still is, that is some shitty writing right there.
Actually, the idea of him remembering anything proves that no one has really thought this through, so you could be right.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 23, 2011, 10:52:46 AM
I prefer these to the Tennant stuff.
Rory is crap casting though.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 23, 2011, 11:56:24 AM
Hey, now, don't diss Arthur Darvill. I think he's great. I also met him and he's really nice too.

Unfortunately, for him, the way his character is written is out of his control.

I actually quite love Rory and the way Arthur plays him. Mostly because of the following:

- he was the ONLY one who cared for the doppleganger of Jennifer (The Rebel Flesh). He kept her company, sympathized with her, and made sure she was okay ... even after nearly getting attacked by her.
- he waited patiently for Amy for 2,000 years. Even when she didn't remember him, he stuck by her, because he's loyal and he loves Amy more than anything.
- His phone was spotted by the Doctor in the Eleventh Hour and was used to help find Prisoner Zero.
- He was brave enough to confront the Doctor in The Pandorica Opens when the Doctor said that Amy wasn't really worth saving (after all the whole universe was dissolving).

I do feel bad for Arthur because Rory is sometimes written as a bumbling idiot or someone who happens to "die" a lot, but that's a flaw in the writing. That's nothing against Arthur or the way he plays Rory. I think he does the best with what he's given.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 23, 2011, 12:03:43 PM
tbh this 2 parter is a lame attempt at rehashing the themes in blade runner.
BBC lacks any original thought (unless Neil is involved :D)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on May 23, 2011, 01:27:00 PM
^I suppose Neil isn't really BBC, though. Plus the BBC have had loads of original thought, they just seem to be...running out a bit, lately. Also, like everyone else, I must admit the Doctors Wife was my favourite episode this season, too :D

I thought the music was cool in this episode, though, plus the flesh-faces looked kinda cool.

...perhaps I'm just appreciating this episode more than everyone else since I had to go to so much effort/wait through three days extra suspense to watch it. You guys are such downers, anyway :P
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 23, 2011, 03:32:17 PM
^This thread is pretty grumpy at the mo, it's true xD As for rehashing the idea from Blade Runner, it's a standard sci-fi concept. That's like complaining that Mal Reynolds is just Han Solo. Who the hell cares, it's a cool idea xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 23, 2011, 07:01:46 PM
BBC lacks any original thought (unless Neil is involved :D)
I recall an episode (c 1968) of Star Trek wherein the Enterprise computer starts calling
Captain Kirk "Dear"......  and another instance where Jimmy-boy resists the temptation
of some alien mind-control-drug/woman because he's already "married" to his starship....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 23, 2011, 07:15:27 PM
BBC lacks any original thought (unless Neil is involved :D)
I recall an episode (c 1968) of Star Trek wherein the Enterprise computer starts calling
Captain Kirk "Dear"......  and another instance where Jimmy-boy resists the temptation
of some alien mind-control-drug/woman because he's already "married" to his starship....

I know the TARDIS being sentient is nothing new.
But the culmination of elements was not as obvious as the other Dr Who episodes.
the Frankenstein caretakers are nothing new either. Fun but nothing new.
My point was Neil urinates on the main Dr Who writers who write BBC audience friendly Drivel.
I could write a better episode. without crappy sliding dimension doors and patch eye women.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on May 23, 2011, 07:49:58 PM
BBC lacks any original thought (unless Neil is involved :D)
I recall an episode (c 1968) of Star Trek wherein the Enterprise computer starts calling
Captain Kirk "Dear"......  and another instance where Jimmy-boy resists the temptation
of some alien mind-control-drug/woman because he's already "married" to his starship....

I know the TARDIS being sentient is nothing new.
But the culmination of elements was not as obvious as the other Dr Who episodes.
the Frankenstein caretakers are nothing new either. Fun but nothing new.
My point was Neil urinates on the main Dr Who writers who write BBC audience friendly Drivel.
I could write a better episode. without crappy sliding dimansion doors and patch eye women.

Ah, but much as I enjoyed it, The Doctor's Wife was (perhaps this is ironic) not part of the linear stream of the
ongoing story.  Heck, it even took place outside the Universe.  As far as can be determined, nothing happened,
and nothing was learned, that has any major bearing on the story as it proceeds, or to explain things that have
already transpired.

Stand-alone narrative is always easier than stitching something into a pre-existing or pre-ordained storyline.
(Not to take anything away from N.G.  His stories are brilliant, but accessible, and his text is both solid and
fluid [how's that for paradox?], and entirely fun to read.)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 23, 2011, 08:15:14 PM
^But Neil Gaiman is frankly one in a million. He's incredible, and OK so most people aren't. That's how you can tell some people are xD It doesn't seem quite fair to complain about BBC writers writing for a BBC audience either. And Johnny, it came across as really condescending when you talked about the BBC audience - that audience is just normal people, covering the whole spectrum of what "normal" can be applied to, and to suggest that they're all apparently unable to appreciate good writing or that they deserve "drivel" because they're not hardcore sci-fi fans or whatever is just wrong.

Related to NG if not DW, Seamus and I have just finished listening to the Graveyard Book on audiobook, read by Neil himself. He really does read the best bedtime stories xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 23, 2011, 08:58:49 PM
What I noticed with NG's episode was that you could tell he loved the show, the love and understanding was there. But that's not to say it isn't there when it's not a NG written episode.

I think that eyepatch lady and pregnant!Amy and the Doctor having his future self killed ... it's just another way of telling a story like last season was with the cracks. It's this series' answer to Bad Wolf.

I do think that the writing has been on and off but when hasnt it, you know? Every season has its moments. Unrelated to the topic at hand, but the BBC recently made a statement saying that neither Matt, Karen nor Arthur have a twitter account. It turns out that Arthur does. So either he's incredibly good at hiding it or the BBC is a bit behind on the times, haha.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 24, 2011, 03:16:05 AM
^But Neil Gaiman is frankly one in a million. He's incredible, and OK so most people aren't. That's how you can tell some people are xD It doesn't seem quite fair to complain about BBC writers writing for a BBC audience either. And Johnny, it came across as really condescending when you talked about the BBC audience - that audience is just normal people, covering the whole spectrum of what "normal" can be applied to, and to suggest that they're all apparently unable to appreciate good writing or that they deserve "drivel" because they're not hardcore sci-fi fans or whatever is just wrong.

Related to NG if not DW, Seamus and I have just finished listening to the Graveyard Book on audiobook, read by Neil himself. He really does read the best bedtime stories xD

Gee, I am realllllly sorry if I was condescending InnnDjaaaa :P
Cmon it's watered down a lot for kiddies and tweens and the Saturday night crowd.
doesn't mean it's not entertaining it's just light and fluffy like Angel Delight :)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 24, 2011, 03:19:17 AM
Mmmmm I'm usually the first in line to accuse Johnny of being condescending or a douchebag, but he has a point here. It is tooootally 'watered down a lot for kiddies and tweens and the Saturday night crowd', regardless of if it's them watching or a 'normal audience' as you put it.
I know everyone here notices because people here practically throw a party when an episode is a bit scarier than usual.
It doesn't make it a bad show, though.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on May 24, 2011, 04:09:13 PM
It's a prime-time Saturday night TV show that is aimed at 9-11 year olds and their parents, because they are the people who watch TV on a Saturday night. It's reasonable enough to assume that young adults and whatever are going to have better things to do at the weekend. OK so none of *us* do, but still xD

What I mean is, of course they're going to write for those people, and of course they can't be too scary or edgy because of that. It's not what the show's for - watch something else if that's what you want. It's a family show, and that means there are some limits. They don't push those limits enough, I agree, and the writing has been sloppy, but you can't blame that on the audience - it's the fact the writers are hitting their target of writing for that audience properly. Maybe they have the same attitude as you guys seem to, I don't know.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: N.U. on May 24, 2011, 05:25:25 PM
I could write a better episode. without crappy sliding dimension doors and patch eye women.


Let's see then.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 24, 2011, 05:27:44 PM
It's a prime-time Saturday night TV show that is aimed at 9-11 year olds and their parents, because they are the people who watch TV on a Saturday night. It's reasonable enough to assume that young adults and whatever are going to have better things to do at the weekend. OK so none of *us* do, but still xD

What I mean is, of course they're going to write for those people, and of course they can't be too scary or edgy because of that. It's not what the show's for - watch something else if that's what you want. It's a family show, and that means there are some limits. They don't push those limits enough, I agree, and the writing has been sloppy, but you can't blame that on the audience - it's the fact the writers are hitting their target of writing for that audience properly. Maybe they have the same attitude as you guys seem to, I don't know.

Yes...We both already know that.

Neil's episode and a few other episodes in the past few series (I won't include anything this series so far because I've hated them all for reasons other than who they're geared towards, thank you very much) have been fantastic and I think that's usually when they're quite scary or quite funny and that seems to usually be when they don't underestimate the brain capacity of their own audience.
The rest of the time, I feel like it seems like THEY are the ones thinking that they need to create 'audience friendly drivel' instead of interesting storylines and you end up with these fucking boring episodes where stuff happens but no one cares. It feels like all they know about their audience is that often it involves kids and they can't say anything that might offend or freak anyone out.
Fuck, even fucking 'Rugrats' is has a fair bit of innuendo in it and that was genuinely a kids show.

Also I'd not bother with the whole 'watch something else' line. Johnny only watches half the time it because I do and I don't think I'm going to bother anymore.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 24, 2011, 05:28:35 PM
I could write a better episode. without crappy sliding dimension doors and patch eye women.


Let's see then.

Do not test thy GOD :)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: N.U. on May 24, 2011, 05:38:19 PM
Hey, don't make statements like that unless you can either back them up or make sure everybody is aware it is merely hyperbole.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 24, 2011, 05:40:04 PM
Hey, don't make statements like that unless you can either back them up or make sure everybody is aware it is merely hyperbole.

I can, but you have to wait until October
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 25, 2011, 03:32:09 AM
ooh is Johnny going to use his cosplay and sci-fi re-enactment contscts to make a doctor who spin off fan film?
perhaps a cosair adventure? (tardis as clock?)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on May 25, 2011, 04:45:11 AM
ooh is Johnny going to use his cosplay and sci-fi re-enactment contscts to make a doctor who spin off fan film?
perhaps a cosair adventure? (tardis as clock?)

Actually we have both David Tenant and Matt Smith lookalikes with screen accurate costumes.
Ok no Tardis but a quick trip to Buchanan street in Glasgow would sort that.

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: theseeker on May 28, 2011, 08:06:10 PM
Hey errrr... just noticed... can someone explain the cell phones in "The Impossible Astronaut" to me?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on May 28, 2011, 08:27:42 PM
Hey errrr... just noticed... can someone explain the cell phones in "The Impossible Astronaut" to me?
What do you mean?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on May 28, 2011, 09:52:22 PM
Does anybody know where I can find The Rebel Flesh online?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: theseeker on May 29, 2011, 12:05:48 AM
Hey errrr... just noticed... can someone explain the cell phones in "The Impossible Astronaut" to me?
What do you mean?
I get it now. I was confused by people using/ not being alarmed by mobile phones, but missed a line.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on May 29, 2011, 05:38:58 AM
Does anybody know where I can find The Rebel Flesh online?

Torrent it.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on May 29, 2011, 06:22:23 AM
Does anybody know where I can find The Rebel Flesh online?

Torrent it.

I did, and the ones I tried either didn't have enough seeders, or when I downloaded them wouldn't play.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on May 30, 2011, 12:09:05 PM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2jfj6l3.jpg)

Also this is totally not what I really think is going to happen because it's too shit, but anyway, in the ads, River is all like 'TODAY HE FINDS OUT WHO I AM BLAH BLAH BLAH' and Amy is all having a baby and whatnot so my theory-that-even-I-don't-believe is that Rory will get exploded or something and die for the billionth time and River will swoop in and be like 'I SAVE YOU' and Amy gets all 'I NAME MY BABY AFTER YOU.' and then the Doctor realises that he's been making creepy sexual comments about their kid and runs away and gets a new companion who can't have kids.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on May 30, 2011, 01:40:39 PM
Eyepatch lady is my favorite part of The Almost People. She's eerie and strange, and I kind of enjoy that. As for the episode itself .... it was decent! Cloning is always an interesting topic.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 30, 2011, 02:31:01 PM
..and anyone notice for the trailer for episode 777 that Rory is back in centurion mode?.....plastic! maybe the baby will be made out of rubber
But I suspect Rory is going to go all Auton on their asses when he gets angry.....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on May 30, 2011, 06:10:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/lzmnPs64K74

 8)

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on May 30, 2011, 07:01:27 PM
Does anybody know where I can find The Rebel Flesh online?

Torrent it.

I did, and the ones I tried either didn't have enough seeders, or when I downloaded them wouldn't play.
PM me your email.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on May 30, 2011, 10:08:27 PM
^Thanks, but I got sent one last night.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on June 03, 2011, 07:27:54 PM
some DW fanime:

http://www.youtube.com/v/ePtj3z8rSq4&feature=player_embedded

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: cbkof on June 04, 2011, 01:25:26 AM
^ i believe the doctor's fetching companion caused the radar/telecom thingy to have a giant erection at 01:46
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on June 04, 2011, 09:29:53 PM
I love the plot twist/spoiler was so brilliantly simple and I love that my theory was right and I enjoyed that Rory didn't die.

Although the teaser trailer for Let's Kill Hitler (no joke that's the title for the new episode in the fall) ... looks well, a bit grim for the Doctor.

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 04, 2011, 10:57:31 PM
^I've not watched the teaser yet, but am vastly amused by the title xD

I really fucking liked this episode. Very pleased with the twist, especially because there was one horrible moment where both Seamus and I thought River would wind up being the Doctor's incesty momma, and that would not be OK. But she wasn't, so it was xD Am excite for the next series thingy.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on June 05, 2011, 07:19:01 AM
The 'twist' wasn't even a twist because fucking everyone called it.

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on June 05, 2011, 10:33:04 AM
I personally believe Moffat wanted everyone to overanalyze then basically make it the most easiest 'twist'. Which is kind of a troll thing to do, and Moffat is a pretty big troll.

Although it would have been more interesting if she was his wife or something like that, but eh. It is what it is.

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on June 05, 2011, 10:45:40 AM
Well they obviously have some kind of romantic relationship, so I'd not rule it out entirely.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 05, 2011, 12:35:39 PM
I didn't call it. I thought it was really cool. *pout*
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on June 05, 2011, 12:54:05 PM
I just scrolled back up and realised that it looks like I'm making some kind of comment at you. I wasn't.
That's fine, but I still think it was predictable.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on June 05, 2011, 12:58:56 PM
^No, I didn't think you were. I just wanted to add that I didn't call it. A lot of people didn't - my dad thought it'd end up that she was a regeneration of the Doctor or something, Jayne thought she'd be like the Master and stuff. I know that's just my dad and my step-mum, but I didn't guess it either and I think even if you did it was still a cool thing.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on June 05, 2011, 01:22:45 PM
The 'twist' wasn't even a twist because fucking everyone called it.


If I remember correctly, it had been pitched on this very forum, too. I had also suspected this, but I thought it was an alright plot development, anyway. I'll be interested to see where it goes.
I quite liked this episode, really. I'll be interested to see how it all ties in with the spacesuit/Doctors death and the orphanage she grew up in with the Silence, who will totally be back. Surely the kid in the suit cant be River too, otherwise she wouldn't have shot at herself, unless she was missing on purpose, which a friend of mine has suspected all season, as she usually has quite good aim. Actually, never mind, it probably was her.

In other news, Lets Kill Hitler is a cringe-worthy title. I'm interested to see how that goes. In a few months, I guess :\
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on June 05, 2011, 01:27:13 PM
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1139/timelord.jpg)
 i am pinching the tardis
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 05, 2011, 01:30:56 PM
Let's see her, just to make sure I'm caught up.  We have similar amounts
of evidence to suggest that:

Rory's still a cyberman (did we ever see him get un-replaced?  Um, NO.)

The Doctor is The Doctor, but I'd bet good money replica-Doctor puts in another appearance
before all is said and done.  (In fact, I'm guessing he gets shot on a beach in Florida, and then
his body is utterly annihilated to prevent close examination of the remains by anyone who might
notice the "flesh"-y substance of it.

...and the lovely Amy has been fake for some time, but somehow connected to her original
so the TARDIS's biological scanner would alternately read the replica who's aboard AND the
original who apparently was abducted while no one was looking.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on June 05, 2011, 01:50:25 PM
yep
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 05, 2011, 01:55:46 PM
Do these people not realize that "Vague Death" is not an industry secret?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on June 05, 2011, 01:58:20 PM
well seeing as i have pinched the tardis until Autumn......
here is a postcard....
(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/3063/colourpostcard.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on June 05, 2011, 04:18:00 PM


Rory's still a cyberman (did we ever see him get un-replaced?  Um, NO.)


The entire universe restarted and he wasn't turned back into one.

Honestly, if they get all "HE'S STILL ROBO-RORY"...It would just be such bad writing.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 05, 2011, 06:42:59 PM


Rory's still a cyberman (did we ever see him get un-replaced?  Um, NO.)


The entire universe restarted and he wasn't turned back into one.

Honestly, if they get all "HE'S STILL ROBO-RORY"...It would just be such bad writing.
So EVERYTHING is exactly as-was, except that?  
Gee Rory, you must be the most important bloke in the whole bloody cosmos....  
...and was that actually made explicit?  or did we simply assume it?

(Anyway, they stole that whole universal-reboot gag from The Hitchhikers Trilogy...)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on June 05, 2011, 06:51:04 PM
I feel it was made pretty clear that Rory was Rory again. It's not like they re-booted the universe and then he got turned into a robot again. Even all the stuff Amy did with the Doctor basically got erased except for some reason they can remember things sometimes. Plus, Rory keeps dying of stuff that robots don't die of.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on June 06, 2011, 04:03:11 AM
Everyone wants a Madame vastra & Jenny spin off series....
Neil Gaiman wants a series about a "Victorian Silurian Lesbian Thespian"
and even Steven moffat has begun wondering about a reptilian Tipping The velvet.... "Tipping The Scales"
(http://serenitywomble.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/vastra1.jpg?w=300&h=278)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on June 06, 2011, 04:24:04 AM
Yesss everyone I've spoken to since I watched the episode has said that. It would be amazing. They're brilliant characters.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on June 06, 2011, 04:26:37 AM
It would appear that most of the intelligent world would love to see this!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on June 06, 2011, 06:11:06 PM
Everyone wants a Madame vastra & Jenny spin off series....
Neil Gaiman wants a series about a "Victorian Silurian Lesbian Thespian"
and even Steven moffat has begun wondering about a reptilian Tipping The velvet.... "Tipping The Scales"
(http://serenitywomble.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/vastra1.jpg?w=300&h=278)
Can I just say that these two made A Good Man Goes To War really wonderful? Because they did. I probably wouldn't have liked it half as much if they weren't there.

Also, the headless monks were pretty cool. A bit scary but cool.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on June 06, 2011, 06:39:35 PM
wait...there's two Amys?

 :love5: :love5:

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on June 06, 2011, 07:44:55 PM
the last Doctor, in the Fright Night remake:

(http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/06/xlarge_explore_io9_videos_1221.jpg)


completely unrecognizable, at least to me.

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on June 08, 2011, 02:25:08 AM
http://io9.com/5809542/yes-matt-smith-is-officially-back-for-another-season-of-doctor-who

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on June 08, 2011, 03:15:02 AM
^Woop woop!!!!!!
I have to say that although the execution isn't as good, Matt Smith is my favourite of the doctors I've seen.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Zephyr on June 08, 2011, 03:58:44 AM
I don't know... I'm not crazy about Matt Smith as the doctor. I do like him, but I don't love him. I think my favourite new doctor is still David Tennant. He wasn't always great, but I think that was mainly due to the writing.

I will be sad to see Amy & Rory go at the end of the season though. I would have preferred to see a new season with Amy, Rory and a new doctor.

But Doctor Who has never disappointed me (at least not in their casting choices, the writing is a different story) so I'm sure it'll be amazing.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on June 09, 2011, 03:28:16 AM
If I put it down to the writing, then David Tennant would be my favourite.
But in the interpretation, and acting of the character, personall, Matt Smith embodies my idea of who the Doctor is and should be.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on June 09, 2011, 03:33:10 AM
Indeed Steven Moffat is consciously trying to tie together 50odd years of the series as one complete story rather than the simplistic reboot of RTD It is consciously trying much harder to be a showcase for good storytelling rather than a kids adventure series
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on June 10, 2011, 05:12:23 AM
Are Amy and Rory leaving? I wish the characters had been written better because I feel like I COULD have liked them, but I'm kind of sick of watching Karen Gillan herp her derp through stories that could have been okay if she wasn't the most one dimensional character even written (even more than Martha).

Also, Johnny always bitches about how it's annoying when characters die in stuff and then come back and there are no consequences and I normally just tell him I don't care and I can enjoy it anyway, but seriously. Rory keeps dying or nearly dying and then he's okay, the Doctor gets shot and then it's like "IT'S OKAY BECAUSE THAT WAS FUTURE DOCTOR AND THE PRESENT ONE IS STILL HERE I BET YOU CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR OUR MAD EXCUSES ABOUT THAT ONE TEEHEEHEE"...I absolutely understand why he gets so annoyed about this shit.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on June 10, 2011, 10:23:11 AM
I still don't like having the doctor get shot. I don't like it. It makes me uncomfortable. And I don't know how they're going to explain it later on.

I'm a little sad that Arthur will be leaving, but he's pursuing theatre and playing a role that's much darker than Rory, which is great. He needs to be seen as another character besides Rory.

I like Karen, and it will be sad to see her go too, but I'll enjoy seeing new companions too. And Amy and Rory had a good run with the Doctor.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on June 14, 2011, 06:07:28 PM
http://io9.com/5811945/confirmed-no-full-season-of-doctor-who-in-2012

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on June 14, 2011, 06:15:57 PM
http://io9.com/5811945/confirmed-no-full-season-of-doctor-who-in-2012

#@!
sadface
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Andy Pants on June 30, 2011, 06:10:32 AM
Moffs second series has serious second album syndrome. There were only two bad episodes in the last series and the only ones from this one I've liked were the first one and the Gaiman TARDIS episode which was nowhere near as god as the highlights of the last series like the Dream Lord episode or The Lodger.

I'm just about ready to write this one off. Maybe it can recover if they get new companions and discard this retarded mythology.

We want to know about the Doctor that's the point of the show. The best moments in the show are when we explore his personality. Who gives a fuck about River Song and Amy?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on July 01, 2011, 04:06:19 PM
dalek plush toys:

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2011/07/751e98af35d6af3b6dde8be3328ee764/340x.jpg)

 :D

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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on July 02, 2011, 09:42:11 AM
and torchwood is back soon but it's gone all american with budget and stuff!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on July 02, 2011, 09:43:46 AM
and torchwood is back soon but it's gone all american with budget and stuff!

Jane Espenson is writing!!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on July 04, 2011, 12:47:33 AM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2011/07/742a08f7100a17cac14de9d307cdfad3/340x.jpg)

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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on July 21, 2011, 11:38:46 PM
Ummmmm.....  General Dr. WHO questions brought on by watching old WHOs via Netflix:

"When" did all the rest of the Time Lords snuff it? I'm watching 'The Three Doctors' from
1972-3, and there's a whole Timelord Control Centre kinda thing goin' on....


Also, did anyone notice that Dudley Dursley
(http://images.wikia.com/harrypotter/images/4/4c/Dudley.gif)

...is The Doctor's grandson?
(http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploads/MichaelTodd/2011-05-08_061038_patrick_troughton.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Andy Pants on July 24, 2011, 02:06:54 AM
Ummmmm.....  General Dr. WHO questions brought on by watching old WHOs via Netflix:

"When" did all the rest of the Time Lords snuff it? I'm watching 'The Three Doctors' from
1972-3, and there's a whole Timelord Control Centre kinda thing goin' on....


Also, did anyone notice that Dudley Dursley
(http://images.wikia.com/harrypotter/images/4/4c/Dudley.gif)

...is The Doctor's grandson?
(http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploads/MichaelTodd/2011-05-08_061038_patrick_troughton.jpg)

Sometime between the Doctor Who telemovie and the revised series. I really hope they revisit it at some point. In the later series the Time Lords and the Daleks were constantly manipulating events to affect the outcome of an upcoming war and then all of a sudden the Doctor is the final Time Lord. It's strongly suggested that he somehow made time travel impossible in a certain part of time and space after events seemed to be leading to an outcome of mutual destruction for both parties. He did this through the use of something called a 'time lock'. What I'd like to know is whether he can travel to the time war but simply never get out, how the time lock works, whether the time war takes place in our future or our past, whether events can somehow be manipulated so that the Doctor doesn't establish the time lock, how he was able to know that the Time Lords and Daleks were going to destroy oneanother before anyone else did so there was no way of any of them escaping their fate. I assume this all has something to do with the Guardians of Time and the Key To Time (Key to Time - Time lock - get it?)

I probably shouldn't link you to this as I've been known to simply read articles all fucking day long and I don't really want to be responsible for getting someone else addicted, but theres some more information here.

http://doctorwho.neoseeker.com/wiki/Time_War (http://doctorwho.neoseeker.com/wiki/Time_War)

and here

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Key_to_Time (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Key_to_Time)

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Guardians_of_Time (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Guardians_of_Time)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Andy Pants on July 24, 2011, 02:51:02 AM
This article has a slightly different interpretation of events.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Guardians_of_Time (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Guardians_of_Time)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on July 25, 2011, 12:56:23 AM
http://io9.com/5824253/karen-gillan-coming-back-for-doctor-who-season-7

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on July 31, 2011, 07:15:11 AM
(http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web05/2011/7/30/3/doctor-who-with-cats-4320-1312010564-28.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on July 31, 2011, 08:55:38 AM
http://io9.com/5824253/karen-gillan-coming-back-for-doctor-who-season-7

#@!
Ffffuuuuuck nooo. *jumps ship*
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on July 31, 2011, 03:21:59 PM
(http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web05/2011/7/30/3/doctor-who-with-cats-4320-1312010564-28.jpg)
nuff said
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on August 15, 2011, 07:43:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/M2LZomoBipI

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Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on August 20, 2011, 04:32:57 AM
Only one more week!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on August 24, 2011, 06:08:23 AM
(http://www.terion.net/lolz/tv/Doctor%20Who%20&%20Torchwood/memes-left-the-tardis-at-the-roxbury.gif)

Not long to go now. Hurry up and kill Hitler already!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on August 24, 2011, 07:52:59 AM
Thanks to the stupid government, I'll have to stream the new ep rather than torrent it, or wait the extra week and wait for it to hit the TV here.

Either way. I'm excited for it!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on August 24, 2011, 08:04:54 AM
^everyone in Australia torrents it. We only get it a week late because the ABC refuse to show it on a Sunday night instead of a Saturday. 
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on August 25, 2011, 01:33:39 AM
^Our stupid government is fucking with peoples torrents, though, and like hell I'm waiting (we were meant to wait ages for the last half of the season to start), so I'll presumably have to stream it, as well. I'll probably watch is again when it's on tv, though :P
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on August 28, 2011, 07:04:58 AM
Last night episode was okay but hardly a masterpiece. I just want to kill River so much.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on August 28, 2011, 07:20:39 AM
Last night episode was okay but hardly a masterpiece. I just want to kill River so much.
First I would like to attend the Gay Gypsy Bah Mitzvah for the disabled. Then she can die.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on August 28, 2011, 10:09:09 AM
that line was the only good thing.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on August 28, 2011, 11:25:50 AM
I don't know if it aired outside the US, but there was a show called Dr. Who: my favourite Companion, or something like that, and Amanda was on it.

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on August 28, 2011, 12:37:01 PM
Is Hitler still in the cupboard?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on August 28, 2011, 04:49:21 PM
There were a few moments where I had to do a double take, but other than that it wasn't my favourite episode.
I still enjoyed it though.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: N.U. on August 31, 2011, 11:15:35 AM
I don't know if it aired outside the US, but there was a show called Dr. Who: my favourite Companion, or something like that, and Amanda was on it.

#@!

Aired on BBC America. I was all "Why the heck is she... oh right.. married to one of the writers..."
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on September 03, 2011, 11:52:37 AM
Finally got around to watching Lets Kill Hitler. It was a bit awkward how they just shoved the entire history of Amy's best friend in there, but I guess this at least explains why River didn't regenerate in season 4.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on September 03, 2011, 12:07:19 PM
Yeah, that was weird. Almost funny, though, that they bothered to do that.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on September 05, 2011, 04:25:26 AM
not sure that worked as well as it could have......on this weeks episode......so nearly Sapphire and Steel for odd creepiness but ultimately failed......it was all a tad too obvious
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on September 05, 2011, 05:29:44 AM
Thought that last one was quite good compared to some of the shit that they've been churning out. I found it a bit rushed though, particularly towards the end. Also I thought it was pretty stupid that Amy suddenly didn't give a shit about finding her baby, but I read that that episode was supposed to have been shown earlier in the series.
It was clearly a stupid decision.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on September 05, 2011, 07:28:02 AM
save me form the monsters...save me form the monsters...save me form the monsters...save me form the monsters...save me form the monsters...
save me from the piss weak writing. ;D
aw the little english child actor was trying to do a 6th sense kid.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: theseeker on September 05, 2011, 09:24:25 PM
I kinda knew what was happening the whole time...  :-\ It wasn't awful though.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on September 06, 2011, 12:22:21 AM
save me form the monsters...save me form the monsters...save me form the monsters...save me form the monsters...save me form the monsters...
save me from the piss weak writing. ;D
aw the little english child actor was trying to do a 6th sense kid.
Wouldn't "save me call the cops" make better sense?

Then again, maybe they're nice, protective mosters - hey, I read The Graveyard Book....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: JohnnyDBBUK on September 06, 2011, 02:47:35 AM
save me form the monsters...save me form the monsters...save me form the monsters...save me form the monsters...save me form the monsters...
save me from the piss weak writing. ;D
aw the little english child actor was trying to do a 6th sense kid.
Wouldn't "save me call the cops" make better sense?

Then again, maybe they're nice, protective mosters - hey, I read The Graveyard Book....
O0 ;D
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on September 06, 2011, 09:07:56 AM
Let's Kill Hitler - or rather, just kidding let's shove Hitler in the cupboard and forget about him the entire episode: it was okay. There were parts that I liked more than others. I enjoyed Alex Kingston's performance.

Night Terrors: this one reminded me of The Twilight Zone combined with Are You Afraid of The Dark? It's not my favorite episode of the season, but the heartwarming father and son moment won me over.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on September 07, 2011, 04:34:27 AM
I kinda knew what was happening the whole time...  :-\ It wasn't awful though.
Yeaaaah, none of it was particularly subtle but I got the feeling that they thought it was.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on September 07, 2011, 09:04:49 AM
Thought that last one was quite good compared to some of the shit that they've been churning out. I found it a bit rushed though, particularly towards the end. Also I thought it was pretty stupid that Amy suddenly didn't give a shit about finding her baby, but I read that that episode was supposed to have been shown earlier in the series.
It was clearly a stupid decision.
I can see why they would have wanted to screen it on fathers day, but still...moving episodes around like that is always going to come off a bit weird.
Also, is River gone from the series now? They're being all like, "yah, she'll grow up and see us again, you know how it happens". But according to the episode she dies in, and the one he dies in, even though he's met her for her first time now, he should still see her again at least a few times since they have a whole lot of other memories they've discussed that haven't happened yet...unless they happen off the show :\
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on September 11, 2011, 02:54:17 AM
The Girl Who Waited was just what this season needed, a good strong emotional episode. although it would have helped if I had a box of tissues on hand, because my goodness I was not expecting to cry the way I did.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on September 11, 2011, 07:31:16 AM
SPOILERISH




























hmmmm I liked it but BIG QUESTION...Rory waited 2000years for amy....she could not wait just 36 without getting angry at them?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on September 11, 2011, 07:54:16 AM
SPOILERISH




























hmmmm I liked it but BIG QUESTION...Rory waited 2000years for amy....she could not wait just 36 without getting angry at them?
I have a feeling that you aren't supposed to ask questions about this particular season of Doctor Who. It would ruin all the plot holes they seem to be insistent on adding.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on September 11, 2011, 07:59:00 AM
I think the difference is that Rory chose to wait. Amy was left there. Alone. Rory waited 2000 years watching over Amy and Amy was left for 36 years to fend for herself.

Given the time streams etc and the fact the Doctor mentioned the time streams part before she was trapped, I did also question this.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on September 11, 2011, 08:05:32 AM
Rory doesn't even properly remember waiting 2000 years.

I thought it was a silly episode. It had sad bits. Mostly I can't even force myself to give a shit about these people anymore and I'm not sure why I still watch it.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on September 11, 2011, 08:10:00 AM
Ohi enjoyed it, but that was nagging at me for the whole episode.....and Amy should have remembered how long Rory appeared to be trapped away from her in The Doctor's Wife.......hopefully this will be the last time they use that particular plot device though......they have only been married five minutes but have spent centuries apart in that time and had a 40 something year old kid!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on September 11, 2011, 11:39:52 AM
I think knowing your own future is a get of jail free card for this season.

This season has been up and down for me. Outside of The Girl Who Waited, I liked The Doctor's Wife. Everything has has been so so, although Night Terrors was good. The next episode looks like they borrowed heavily from a Stephen King novel.

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on September 15, 2011, 03:57:41 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2011/09/99d7e492cc8a8e5d6f54100c2bff1934/340x.jpg)

#@!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on September 17, 2011, 09:30:54 PM
The God Complex was interesting. I liked it, I'm not in love with it, but it was good. I think the Doctor made the right choice at the end.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on September 18, 2011, 04:45:29 AM
I haven't watched last night's ep yet, but I watched Night Terrors which I missed when it was on, and I got really freaked out xD I thought they glossed over Amy being a doll though - it wasn't really worrying at all, it was just like, "hmm, 'kay, so...", but I loved Matt Smith and Arthur Darvill in it. Usually I could take or leave Rory, but he was quite fun. I'll be watching last night's episode later today - am excite!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on September 18, 2011, 02:35:45 PM
Haha, I agree. Also Amy being a doll that time removed any fear of any consequences for the other characters in that episode.

The God Complex was okay. They actually managed to get some creative ideas in there, so congrats to them on that.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on September 18, 2011, 02:44:15 PM
both episodes had a similar sort of old school telly freakiness akin to Sapphire & Steel, the Tomorrow People and the Old Hammer House Of Horror tv show......all good things but also a tad too cleaned up for "modern audiences".... loved the central creature in this weeks though, if only for the costume design....oh and really....Rory is getting more interesting
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on September 19, 2011, 10:54:47 AM
I really liked the God Complex, but I don't understand why they couldn't have explained a little bit why the centaur thingy was in prison or something. That was a bit poo. And I didn't like how Amy didn't think, "Omfg, he's trying to make me think he won't save me so that I'll be saved!!" But I really liked the rest of it. And they finally had a Muslim character xD Sometimes the show's behind-the-times-ness baffles me.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on September 20, 2011, 01:00:45 PM
the one thing I didn't like about The God Complex was that the sentimental bit at the end seemed tacked on. Just like "oh we better add in this scene". it didn't work for me.
It's weird, this season has felt out of sorts over all compared to last year and the year before.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on September 20, 2011, 03:16:40 PM
the one thing I didn't like about The God Complex was that the sentimental bit at the end seemed tacked on. Just like "oh we better add in this scene". it didn't work for me.
It's weird, this season has felt out of sorts over all compared to last year and the year before.

Well, they always jigger about with the order of episodes - like they're not all shown in the order they might originally have been written in - and maybe this season it was worse done than in other seasons? Reminds me of when I try to imagine watching Firefly in the order it was broadcast.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on September 24, 2011, 03:20:46 PM
I might just hate Matt Smith a little less without the other two.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on September 24, 2011, 08:02:02 PM
I might just hate Matt Smith a little less without the other two.
I like him but he was better without them.

I am actually looking forward to next week's episode. Looks like it may not suck.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on September 25, 2011, 07:41:24 AM
I'm kind of disappointed with this series all over - it lost all it's momentum somewhere, and I don't think I like/care about River enough for me to mind about what happened to her. Was really annoyed at the Next Week.... preview at the end of last night's episode, it spoiled something that I was looking forwards to finding out later (don't really want to say, in case someone else wants to see it in the episode...) and there doesn't seem to have been that over-arching plot arc that the others had. Or, well, I know that there *has*, but it's been crap - like Bad Wolf and the Master coming back and whatever were really good, but this one was rubbish. Buuuuut, Matt Smith is a babe xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on September 25, 2011, 12:16:42 PM
last nights was really kind of lame....nothing was explained well and the whole Love conquers the cybermen thing was so cliched it could have come straight from a 1950s pulp magazine or Original series star trek.....as for the cybermat.....why on earth would the Cybermen reboot cybermen have developed something that only made sense in the context of the original cybermen?.....Do love how matt Smith is making his Doctor more and more patrick Troughton though...even some of his manerisms are creeping through.....Patrick T\roughton really was the first doctor to give the timelords a history and a reall role in the series, so it is good to be going back to him
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on September 25, 2011, 12:35:45 PM
The plot yesterday was pretty rubbish. I liked the relationship between Craig and the Doctor, and it was really funny, but I didn't understand why the Cybermen were there, and at no point did it feel like they might actually be a threat. Also, wtf was with the Cybermat? Why would it be mat, not rat? Cyberm isn't a fucking prefix, it made no sense.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on September 25, 2011, 12:54:08 PM
the original cybermats were a cyberman "pet" or modified lifeform from their home planet.....now that they are of human origin and not an ancient race that replaced their organic tissue with machines over centuries it does indeed make no sense.....also the head splode thing was really stupid...gawd if the cybermen were that easy to get rid of they would never have been a threat at all
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on September 25, 2011, 01:00:43 PM
...also i kind of want the old cybermen to meet the new ones and have it out....(an original cyberman head was seen aaages ago when RTD revived the series....the episode with the broken down Dalek in the billionaire's warehouse)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on September 25, 2011, 01:13:15 PM
Haven't watched last night's yet, but didn't a Season 1 episode of Torchwood pretty clearly
demonstrate that love does NOT conquer cybermen... uh cyberwomen?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on September 25, 2011, 01:14:40 PM
I've pretty much stopped trying to figure out what the fuck is going on with the plot because it's pretty clear that they don't even care about not totally sucking anymore.
Also I think they tried to explain away how easy it was to defeat them with the whole 'OMGZZZ THEY R UNFINISHED Y IZ DAT' thing, didn't they?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on September 25, 2011, 01:54:15 PM
I really like some of the series but last night's was indeed total filler
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on September 26, 2011, 10:10:49 AM
nothing wrong with filler. heck, david tennant's era had a few notable filler episodes.
i actually LIKED the fact it wasn't all too serious.
except the ending. that was unnecessary and bogged the entire thing down. and it was silly because we already kind of had a hunch of what would happen.
anyway, outside of The Doctor's Wife this was the only other episode I liked to any degree, sans the ending.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on September 26, 2011, 12:04:32 PM
Filler's fine, but not this close to the end of the series. And if you must split a series up into two small parts, I kind of feel that it's even more important to keep the momentum of the series going. If you've got 12 weeks to tell a story then sure, fill a few weeks with fluff, but there's not as much time to spare in this situation.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on September 28, 2011, 12:09:14 AM
I only just got around to watching The Girl Who Waited a couple of days ago (I'm getting a bit behind), and there were a few plot holes in that story that really bugged me, just because they should have been obvious and easy to fix by a writing team. For instance, when Rory and the Doctor and Amy are still in their separate rooms looking through the magnifying glass at each other, Amy says she's been there for a week. Afterwards, she finds the garden and talks to the interface. Years later when Rory gets in there, she says she found the garden and talked to interface on her first day. This is the sort of problem a bit of proofreading could fix. Secondly, the Doctor explains away why she doesn't have to eat because of the way the system mucks with time, so why does she still age?

Regardless, I still got pretty emotional, but I think that's more because of the mood I was in and because I've come to associate watching Doctor Who with escapism during bad times. But come on, writers.

Also, what was the actual reason that they decided to split it into two half seasons?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on September 28, 2011, 02:54:49 AM
Also, what was the actual reason that they decided to split it into two half seasons?
My theory is ratings in America. Because there is no other reason for it.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on September 28, 2011, 03:03:00 AM
Also, what was the actual reason that they decided to split it into two half seasons?
My theory is ratings in America. Because there is no other reason for it.
How would it affect ratings in America?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on September 28, 2011, 03:17:24 AM
Also, what was the actual reason that they decided to split it into two half seasons?
My theory is ratings in America. Because there is no other reason for it.
How would it affect ratings in America?
Wasn't on for a chunk of their summer. I know most shows here go off during the summer months because they don't measure the ratings, I am assuming they do the same thing over there.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on September 28, 2011, 03:26:57 AM
But it's summer in England and they usually show it over there?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on September 28, 2011, 03:42:41 AM
But it's summer in England and they usually show it over there?
Just my theory. Seeing as there was no real reason for splitting the series and seeing as it was really irritating and ruined the flow of the show then I can only assume they did it for money/ratings.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on September 28, 2011, 12:53:29 PM
They split it because they had a natural climax in the middle of the series. That's what gave them the idea, anyway - it doesn't seem to logically follow that they should split it up, IMO, but that's what they tell us.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on September 28, 2011, 07:07:26 PM
They split it because they had a natural climax in the middle of the series. That's what gave them the idea, anyway - it doesn't seem to logically follow that they should split it up, IMO, but that's what they tell us.
I know that is what they are saying. I don't believe it. It has really messed with the whole show this year.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on September 28, 2011, 08:22:45 PM
As I happen to be a giant cynic I agree with totalfrog that it's probably more likely that some sort of ratingsy thing happened and they used the mid-climax as an excuse. Who mid-climaxes, anyway? O_o

Also, isn't Doctor Who screened on Saturday nights over there? Seems a bit weird that they'd be worried about rating drops only in summer.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on September 28, 2011, 08:35:26 PM
Who mid-climaxes, anyway? O_o
Sigged
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on September 30, 2011, 10:39:32 PM
(http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web04/2011/9/30/4/lets-see-what-all-this-doctor-who-hullabaloo-is-a-1580-1317370646-1.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on October 01, 2011, 03:55:52 PM
wtfffffff`
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on October 01, 2011, 04:09:19 PM
indeed..kind of ranks very cloesly to "and it was ALL a dream"
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on October 01, 2011, 04:11:24 PM
and it was ALL crappy writing.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on October 01, 2011, 04:13:11 PM
indeed..kind of a tad annoyed that all the cool stuff we could have had turned into a trite cop out
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on October 01, 2011, 04:34:41 PM
I am sad because Doctor Who used to be a great thing where if I was at home, everyone would stop what they were doing and everyone (including my youngest brother who would have been like 3 when we started watching it) would stop talking for the whole episode because it was SPECIAL and MAGICAL. And the one time I was away from any TVs for an episode, me and my friends found a pub that was showing it and the place was packed and it was that one where Rose comes back after being in the other universe for a while (I don't know episode names and stuff except for "Doomsday" because that broke my heart, seriously.) and when it showed her, people literally stood up and shouted and hugged strangers. All this stuff is the only reason I still watch it.
But I don't get excited when it's on or freak out if I miss an episode or someone talks when it's on or anything anymore because even though it has good moments, there is definitely something missing since all this new stuff got wheeled in. I was seriously impressed by Neil's episode, not because it was THE MOST AMAZING EPISODE EVER, but because it actually brought back feelings that the ideas in the show were actually being used in a creative AND thoughtful way and like someone was considering the fantastic storytelling opportunities that are there without abusing everything.
Blaaaah. I didn't hate the current Doctor as much as usual when Rory and Amy were gone, I think part of the problem is that they tend to write the same thing in different ways over and over for those two or they do loopy bullshit that goes on and on and gets old fast.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on October 01, 2011, 05:50:31 PM
It wasn't too bad. It annoys the hell out of me when they use the "all a dream" get out of jail free card though. This came pretty close. I did like that they had a little tribute to The Brigadier in there after Nicholas Courtney passed away earlier this year. Shame they never got to bring him back.

Time to ditch River, Rory and Amy though. That whole storyline is a joke.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on October 01, 2011, 08:58:06 PM
I was more or less focused on the religious analogy that seemed to be a little more prominent in this episode. [spoilers]the Doctor is taken before Churchill dressed as Jesus, or vaguely close to what Jesus would wear, much like Jesus was brought before Pontius Pilate. the Silents, who want the Doctor dead, were described earlier as a religious order of some kind. In any case, them wanting the Doctor dead is almost the same as the many who turned against Jesus and ordered his crucifixion. Both the Doctor's death and Jesus' death were fixed points in history. Jesus knew he would have to die for the sins of his people and was aware that one of his followers had betrayed him at the last supper. the Doctor was aware that his time was at an end and reality would disintegrate if he didn't carry out the order of his death.[/spoilers]

I think I read too much into it, haha.

but it didn't really wow me. I guess I had started to fit the pieces together. I agree with Audrey about The Doctor's Wife. That episode made me remember why I started watching the show, why I loved it, why the Doctor is such a great character. This entire season, while I still love the Doctor very much, it was harder for me to enjoy but I still watched. because I can never stop loving the Doctor, not until the day he uses up his last regeneration cycle, whenever that day may be.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on October 02, 2011, 02:05:18 AM
Time to ditch River and Rory...  Keep Amy though.

That whole storyline is a joke.
Couldn't agree more....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Andy Pants on October 10, 2011, 07:31:07 AM
indeed..kind of ranks very cloesly to "and it was ALL a dream"

Felt the same way about the second part to the finale last year, total cop out, but get used to it. I get the feeling this is how the series are going to end from now on.

The only really exciting part of the episode was the end which to me suggested we're going to learn a little more about the Doctors backstory.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on October 10, 2011, 09:37:50 AM
btw anyone else noticed the similarity in expression and even outfit between the second doctor and the 11th?
(http://doctorwhocompanions.com/files/2011/03/second-doctor-patrick-troughton-2.jpg)
(http://www.themindrobber.co.uk/matt-smith-karen-gillan-amy-pond/matt-smith-the-eleventh-doctor.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on October 11, 2011, 04:24:50 AM
I totally have the same pants as the second doctor. Also a similar coat. This suddenly feels more awesome than it really is.

I suppose what keeps me watching Doctor Who is similar to Audrey's experience. I didn't really grow up with it or anything, but we watched a lot of it around a time where things were quite bad, and Doctor Who was this glowing, magical special thing you get into when you just wanted a break from everything else for an hour or so. It still feels special to me, although I'm less eager to keep up with it these days. I still haven't got around to watching the last two episodes of this season yet :\
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on October 18, 2011, 12:47:47 AM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2011/10/eb1328048df1acaef131ed0fd4d7fd10/original.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on October 21, 2011, 07:23:53 PM
http://io9.com/5852304/matt-smith-quitting-as-the-doctor-after-2012
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on October 23, 2011, 12:42:41 AM
http://io9.com/5852304/matt-smith-quitting-as-the-doctor-after-2012
So he'll..... die, regenerate as someone else (however-many more times), then eventually become
Matt Smith again just in time to meet his FINAL demise at the already-stated time/date/place... ?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on October 23, 2011, 07:05:03 AM
^I still haven't seen the end of this series yet, but doesn't something happen at the end where time magically changes and he doesn't get shot?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on October 23, 2011, 11:49:40 AM
I'm pretty sure I heard someone who's supposed to know say that some moments and
events are fixed and cannot be changed, and that THAT was one such moment.... No?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on October 23, 2011, 11:55:58 AM
Well, he still got shot. It was just that the shot missed, I think - like it hit the robot-in-the-Doctor's-shape instead of the Doctor, who was inside the robot.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on October 23, 2011, 12:00:08 PM
yeah...pretty dodgy logic on that one.....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on October 30, 2011, 08:12:07 PM
a gift from the last doc:

http://www.youtube.com/v/3s4Czla6tXc#!

 :glasses9:
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on October 30, 2011, 09:52:57 PM
I'm pretty sure I heard someone who's supposed to know say that some moments and
events are fixed and cannot be changed, and that THAT was one such moment.... No?

Well, he still got shot. It was just that the shot missed, I think - like it hit the robot-in-the-Doctor's-shape instead of the Doctor, who was inside the robot.

yeah...pretty dodgy logic on that one.....

Remember "The Rebel Flesh"?  Cuz it occurred to me when I saw that one that the demise
of the duplicate-Doctor fell well within the parameters of The Vague Death Rule...

Maybe it was the ganger Doctor?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: my beautiful idiot on October 31, 2011, 12:23:57 AM
a gift from the last doc:

http://www.youtube.com/v/3s4Czla6tXc#!

 :glasses9:
there's also another video that the BBC released of John Barrowman, Catherine Tate and David Tennant singing a ballad for Julie and Russell. it's great. But the Proclaimers video is just gold. I can't listen to that song now without thinking of David marching in place with literally everyone.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Katherine May Williams on November 14, 2011, 03:52:26 AM
Bill Bailey in the xmas special this year. That's all.  :headbang:
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on November 14, 2011, 07:39:37 PM
http://io9.com/5859431/a-new-doctor-who-movie-from-the-director-of-the-harry-potter-films
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on November 14, 2011, 11:48:42 PM
http://io9.com/5859431/a-new-doctor-who-movie-from-the-director-of-the-harry-potter-films

Also here:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15730665

Check me if I've got this wrong, but didn't the previous Dr WHO film kinda suck? Also, didn't it flop miserably
As I recall, American audiences said "Who?" and Brits were all "who the #*@% is this guy?" (and if they do in
fact go with a different lead actor.... well, people did warm up to David Tennant pretty quick, but imagine
if Christopher Eccleston or Matt Smith had needed to be accepted in their first appearance as The Doctor... )
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on November 15, 2011, 12:37:34 AM
http://io9.com/5859431/a-new-doctor-who-movie-from-the-director-of-the-harry-potter-films

Also here:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15730665

Check me if I've got this wrong, but didn't the previous Dr WHO film kinda suck? Also, didn't it flop miserably
As I recall, American audiences said "Who?" and Brits were all "who the #*@% is this guy?" (and if they do in
fact go with a different lead actor.... well, people did warm up to David Tennant pretty quick, but imagine
if Christopher Eccleston or Matt Smith had needed to be accepted in their first appearance as The Doctor... )
It was a steaming pile of horseshit. A giant steaming pile of horseshit.

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on November 15, 2011, 12:45:09 AM
http://io9.com/5859431/a-new-doctor-who-movie-from-the-director-of-the-harry-potter-films

Also here:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15730665

Check me if I've got this wrong, but didn't the previous Dr WHO film kinda suck? Also, didn't it flop miserably
As I recall, American audiences said "Who?" and Brits were all "who the #*@% is this guy?" (and if they do in
fact go with a different lead actor.... well, people did warm up to David Tennant pretty quick, but imagine
if Christopher Eccleston or Matt Smith had needed to be accepted in their first appearance as The Doctor... )
It was a steaming pile of horseshit. A giant steaming pile of horseshit.
So... You kinda sorta didn't care for it?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on November 15, 2011, 01:08:42 AM
http://io9.com/5859431/a-new-doctor-who-movie-from-the-director-of-the-harry-potter-films

Also here:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15730665

Check me if I've got this wrong, but didn't the previous Dr WHO film kinda suck? Also, didn't it flop miserably
As I recall, American audiences said "Who?" and Brits were all "who the #*@% is this guy?" (and if they do in
fact go with a different lead actor.... well, people did warm up to David Tennant pretty quick, but imagine
if Christopher Eccleston or Matt Smith had needed to be accepted in their first appearance as The Doctor... )
It was a steaming pile of horseshit. A giant steaming pile of horseshit.
So... You kinda sorta didn't care for it?
So you got that. I was worried that I wasn't clear enough.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on November 15, 2011, 01:43:43 AM
it was extremely flawed in many ways....hopefully a movie will go back to the first doctor incarnation....the one who pinches the TARDIS (not william hartnell....)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on November 17, 2011, 08:26:59 PM
ummm...    http://movies.msn.com/paralleluniverse/doctor-who-actors/photo-gallery/across-the-universe/?photoidx=1


 :dontknow:
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mr. Leave Me Alone on November 18, 2011, 08:37:35 AM
If they were to get some big name American actor I would not even give that thing half a chance. One of the best things about the show is how typically British certain aspects of it are and I don't even think that they're going to get away with it as it is, let alone if they decided to do it that way.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on November 19, 2011, 09:30:43 AM
^ anyone in mind?


cute fan video:

http://www.youtube.com/v/P5GNhn3LY7I

 :D
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on November 20, 2011, 06:48:55 PM
Off on a bit of a tangent, if you don't mind.......

So I was getting caught up on Torchwood...
Season 1 - uneven, but good
Season 2 - exciting
Season 3 - Excellent!
Season 4 - the year-off probably shoulda been a warning....  WHO the F sold this franchise to the Americans?  >:(

I've gotten through three episodes, and I really don't see any point to watching the rest.  :angry7:

             
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on November 20, 2011, 09:14:07 PM
Off on a bit of a tangent, if you don't mind.......

So I was getting caught up on Torchwood...
Season 1 - uneven, but good
Season 2 - exciting
Season 3 - Excellent!
Season 4 - the year-off probably shoulda been a warning....  WHO the F sold this franchise to the Americans?  >:(

I've gotten through three episodes, and I really don't see any point to watching the rest.  :angry7:

             
Off on a bit of a tangent, if you don't mind.......

So I was getting caught up on Torchwood...
Season 1 - uneven, but good
Season 2 - exciting
Season 3 - Excellent!
Season 4 - the year-off probably shoulda been a warning....  WHO the F sold this franchise to the Americans?  >:(

I've gotten through three episodes, and I really don't see any point to watching the rest.  :angry7:

             
It would be nice if you Americans could leave good things alone. You never make it better.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on November 21, 2011, 09:17:26 AM
Off on a bit of a tangent, if you don't mind.......

So I was getting caught up on Torchwood...
Season 1 - uneven, but good
Season 2 - exciting
Season 3 - Excellent!
Season 4 - the year-off probably shoulda been a warning....  WHO the F sold this franchise to the Americans?  >:(

I've gotten through three episodes, and I really don't see any point to watching the rest.  :angry7:

             
It would be nice if you Americans could leave good things alone. You never make it better.
I'm sure at some point in history, American input has made something better....

...but this was just pointless (andohbytheway, I was NOT consulted in any way).
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on December 02, 2011, 02:44:12 AM
https://twitter.com//steven_moffat/statuses/142509085982601216

From @steven_moffat
To clarify: any Doctor Who movie would be made by the BBC team, star the current TV Doctor and certainly NOT be a Hollywood reboot.  :headbang:


Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on December 02, 2011, 11:23:21 AM
Off on a bit of a tangent, if you don't mind.......

So I was getting caught up on Torchwood...
Season 1 - uneven, but good
Season 2 - exciting
Season 3 - Excellent!
Season 4 - the year-off probably shoulda been a warning....  WHO the F sold this franchise to the Americans?  >:(

I've gotten through three episodes, and I really don't see any point to watching the rest.  :angry7:

             
It would be nice if you Americans could leave good things alone. You never make it better.
[/quote]

here's your chance (maybe):    http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/11/rumour-doctor-who-down-under.html

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on December 16, 2011, 01:19:05 AM
http://io9.com/5868583/more-changes-coming-to-doctor-who-next-year
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Andy Pants on December 19, 2011, 01:31:47 AM
Off on a bit of a tangent, if you don't mind.......

So I was getting caught up on Torchwood...
Season 1 - uneven, but good
Season 2 - exciting
Season 3 - Excellent!
Season 4 - the year-off probably shoulda been a warning....  WHO the F sold this franchise to the Americans?  >:(

I've gotten through three episodes, and I really don't see any point to watching the rest.  :angry7:

             
It would be nice if you Americans could leave good things alone. You never make it better.
I'm sure at some point in history, American input has made something better....

...but this was just pointless (andohbytheway, I was NOT consulted in any way).

WW2? But you have to give equal credit to the Soviets.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on December 19, 2011, 09:54:36 PM
Off on a bit of a tangent, if you don't mind.......

So I was getting caught up on Torchwood...
Season 1 - uneven, but good
Season 2 - exciting
Season 3 - Excellent!
Season 4 - the year-off probably shoulda been a warning....  WHO the F sold this franchise to the Americans?  >:(

I've gotten through three episodes, and I really don't see any point to watching the rest.  :angry7:

              
It would be nice if you Americans could leave good things alone. You never make it better.
I'm sure at some point in history, American input has made something better....

...but this was just pointless (andohbytheway, I was NOT consulted in any way).

WW2? But you have to give equal credit to the Soviets.
Eh....  Wars in general are so f'ed-up, I don't know.....

How about cheeseburgers? or maybe sailor-sandwiches? (The kind from the deli, not a gay party-game.)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on January 14, 2012, 02:57:47 AM
http://www.spoilertv.com/2012/01/doctor-who-casting-news-sophia-myles.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=tumblr

Did Moffat give away the new companion?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on January 14, 2012, 12:07:28 PM
http://www.spoilertv.com/2012/01/doctor-who-casting-news-sophia-myles.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=tumblr

Did Moffat give away the new companion?

Naaah, it's the second female Doctor (after Joanna Lumley...)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on January 14, 2012, 12:42:18 PM
Off on a bit of a tangent, if you don't mind.......

So I was getting caught up on Torchwood...
Season 1 - uneven, but good
Season 2 - exciting
Season 3 - Excellent!
Season 4 - the year-off probably shoulda been a warning....  WHO the F sold this franchise to the Americans?  >:(

I've gotten through three episodes, and I really don't see any point to watching the rest.  :angry7:

              
It would be nice if you Americans could leave good things alone. You never make it better.
I'm sure at some point in history, American input has made something better....

...but this was just pointless (andohbytheway, I was NOT consulted in any way).

WW2? But you have to give equal credit to the Soviets.
Eh....  Wars in general are so f'ed-up, I don't know.....

How about cheeseburgers? or maybe sailor-sandwiches? (The kind from the deli, not a gay party-game.)

blues, jazz, bluegrass, rock and roll.

 :usa2:
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on January 16, 2012, 11:10:09 AM
(http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/0/a/0afmzpc7ky5ufaz5.jpg)

...the next companion?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on January 16, 2012, 04:03:50 PM
^She was the Girl in the Fireplace, yes no? I doubt she'll be the new companion, they'll probably just use her for a special and then be done with her.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on January 17, 2012, 07:31:40 AM
Doubt it, they'd have canonical problems having her as a proper companion. Maybe they'll just have her pop in and out a couple of times, like Vincent Van Gogh.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on January 17, 2012, 02:00:05 PM
So...... catching up on past seasons of WHO, and I was watching the "End Of Time"
2-part (the one with The Master, and Timothy Dalton, and the rest of the Timelords trying
to destroy, well, everything...)...  and I noticed something about David Tennant:

For someone playing the role of The Doctor, he's actually quite bad at one of the things
that The Doctor is long known for doing - Dave T looks very awkward when he runs.
(Think about it - if you had [some unit of money] for every time one of the Doctors has said
to his Companion du jour that one-word line: "run!" - you'd be rich then, wouldn'tcha?
)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on January 17, 2012, 02:22:23 PM
yeah..the Doctor is great at shouting "run awaaay!" shortly before being almost zapped/splodged/glooped/assimilated etc
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on January 20, 2012, 07:14:43 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2012/01/686ec99753975d815b4287c7ae269b8c/340x.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Andy Pants on January 20, 2012, 09:06:01 PM
Doubt it, they'd have canonical problems having her as a proper companion. Maybe they'll just have her pop in and out a couple of times, like Vincent Van Gogh.

It's a bad habit of the Doctor Who universe to use the same actor again for a different character and think no-one will notice. I wouldn't be surprised if they screw it up again. I don't understand why at the end of Girl In the Fireplace he couldn't have just used the TARDIS to go back about a a week (or I don't know a year or so) and meet up with her again. The same thing when he tried to call the Brigadier and learned he was dead. Uh, just go back to a week or so before you called then? YOU'VE GOT A TIME MACHINE STUPID!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on January 20, 2012, 11:03:36 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2012/01/686ec99753975d815b4287c7ae269b8c/340x.jpg)
I need this.....  seriously.

Where can I get one?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on January 21, 2012, 12:01:44 AM
some company called Forbidden Planet International will have them...but they're not actually coming out until May 15, so you can't get one yet.

they're 22 pounds, and they do ship internationally.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on February 27, 2012, 06:37:21 PM
oh, Indja...    http://io9.com/5888735/rumor-benedict-cumberbatch-coming-to-doctor-who-as-a-familiar-character
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on February 27, 2012, 07:01:27 PM
oh, Indja...    http://io9.com/5888735/rumor-benedict-cumberbatch-coming-to-doctor-who-as-a-familiar-character

Hmmm. Not sure how seriously I'd take this. He's said over and over again that he doesn't want to be in Doctor Who - not just in response to questions about him being the Doctor, but in general. I'm unconvinced.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on February 27, 2012, 07:28:51 PM
oh, Indja...    http://io9.com/5888735/rumor-benedict-cumberbatch-coming-to-doctor-who-as-a-familiar-character

Hmmm. Not sure how seriously I'd take this. He's said over and over again that he doesn't want to be in Doctor Who - not just in response to questions about him being the Doctor, but in general. I'm unconvinced.
BUT IT'S

ON

THE

INTERNET!!!   :D

It must be true!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on March 15, 2012, 03:54:30 PM
DW is currently shooting in Spain; here's an on-set photo:

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gj5nogt4xscjpg/original.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on March 16, 2012, 02:10:46 AM
I'm guessing that's the wild west episode. Number 3 I think it is. It sounds like a good 'un!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on March 20, 2012, 07:56:33 PM
new companion to be announced tomorrow:    http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2012/03/dwn2003121700008-new-co-star-to-be.html
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on March 21, 2012, 12:29:43 PM
here she is:

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17h43myu8ft7vjpg/original.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on March 21, 2012, 12:37:35 PM
Meh...  I liked the redhead.


Not that I won't give this one a chance, mind you.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: N.U. on March 21, 2012, 12:58:42 PM
Sadly, Amelia Pond is leaving... :'(
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on March 22, 2012, 12:24:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/xIwTm081t30
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on March 22, 2012, 12:33:44 PM
I can't tell whether it's her being dopey, Lizo being dopey, or just that she's not used to that kind of interview, but it did not reflect well on either of them xD I hope she's more interesting on the show. Seems nice enough though, I wonder what her character's back-story will be.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on March 22, 2012, 12:55:43 PM
She reminds me waaaay too much of Katie Holmes, whose work I don't actively DISlike,
but who is also not someone whose work I actively seek-out...

Maybe it's just me....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on March 22, 2012, 02:25:03 PM
a letdown after the nearly 6 feet of Scottish hottness that is Karen Gillan.

then again, I don't even watch the show, so it's not like I really care.   :glasses9:
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on March 22, 2012, 02:28:08 PM
she seems a tad too blaaahnd and midddle class english dramah dahling for my tastes...but one can never tell
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on March 22, 2012, 02:45:25 PM
she seems a tad too blaaahnd and midddle class english dramah dahling for my tastes...but one can never tell
I dunno....  It's a bit beyond my expertise, but it sounds to me like she's hiding
a workin'-class accent behind a lot of good-diction lessons...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on March 22, 2012, 02:52:04 PM
nah....daddy definitely bought her a pony
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on March 23, 2012, 04:59:28 AM
^Fact. She might have the odd Northern vowel, but she's still a total yah. The fact it's so hidden screams public school, if you ask me, almost definitely draaahmaaah school. I bet she was a nightmare as a kid xD But she seems nice enough, I'm just not very taken with her. Catherine Tate's still my favourite xD Wish they'd get over the whole pretty-young-thing companion and have someone older again.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on March 23, 2012, 02:39:44 PM
^Fact. She might have the odd Northern vowel, but she's still a total yah. The fact it's so hidden screams public school, if you ask me, almost definitely draaahmaaah school. I bet she was a nightmare as a kid xD But she seems nice enough, I'm just not very taken with her. Catherine Tate's still my favourite xD Wish they'd get over the whole pretty-young-thing companion and have someone older again.
Pretty-young-things attract viewers (young male viewers)... 

Good stories hold them.  You kinda need both. (Ms. Tate's not so bad to look at herself, mind you...)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on March 23, 2012, 07:10:54 PM
^Fact. She might have the odd Northern vowel, but she's still a total yah. The fact it's so hidden screams public school, if you ask me, almost definitely draaahmaaah school. I bet she was a nightmare as a kid xD But she seems nice enough, I'm just not very taken with her. Catherine Tate's still my favourite xD Wish they'd get over the whole pretty-young-thing companion and have someone older again.
Pretty-young-things attract viewers (young male viewers)... 

Good stories hold them.  You kinda need both. (Ms. Tate's not so bad to look at herself, mind you...)

Piffle. The fact that it's Doctor Who attracts viewers, and good stories hold them. Srsly, I don't know how it is over the Pond, but it's just a fact that if you're at all likely to watch Doctor Who, you'll probably watch it regardless of who's in it. And ch'yah, Catherine Tate is totally lovely and gorgeous, but she was also a bit older, and Donna wasn't a sex interest at all. Loved her :D
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on March 31, 2012, 01:52:47 AM
so they replace a gorgeous Scottish amazon

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17i1nwaslgtg1jpg/cmt-medium.jpg)

with an elf

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17i1mfuk31uatjpg/cmt-medium.jpg)


???
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Captain Oblivious on March 31, 2012, 11:13:13 AM
I think the new companion is hotter than Karen Gillan
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on March 31, 2012, 02:18:03 PM
???
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on March 31, 2012, 07:27:57 PM
I think the new companion is hotter than Karen Gillan
Perhaps you should start wearing those glasses....  They look good on you.   O0
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Captain Oblivious on March 31, 2012, 11:49:19 PM
I think the new companion is hotter than Karen Gillan
Perhaps you should start wearing those glasses....  They look good on you.   O0

Well maybe not HOTTER but I think cuter and overall more attractive... :-\
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 01, 2012, 12:10:00 AM
....but the important thing is, of course, how well she interprets the character and the situation and acts with integrity, intelligence and talent. Of course.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Captain Oblivious on April 01, 2012, 12:47:04 AM
....but the important thing is, of course, how well she interprets the character and the situation and acts with integrity, intelligence and talent. Of course.

...of course...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 01, 2012, 12:50:14 AM
....but the important thing is, of course, how well she interprets the character and the situation and acts with integrity, intelligence and talent. Of course.

...of course...
....and how she looks in a police-inspired fetish costume....   :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 01, 2012, 02:08:09 AM
Shame on you both.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on April 04, 2012, 09:05:16 AM
what the Daleks have been up to while not conquering the universe......
http://www.geekologie.com/2012/04/so-soothing-dr-who-dalek-relaxation-tape.php
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on April 04, 2012, 11:07:56 AM
^That's hilarious xD

In other news, I bloody hate the Daleks. I think everyone who's been on the writing team for New Who has overly fond memories of them from childhood and so they keep putting them in as a big surprise thing or the cherry on the cake stuff. It's bollocks. They're not scary - they're not as scary as the Empty Child or the Weeping Angels or the Silence, or as interesting as the Star Whale or the Ood. They're just... boring. Like the Cybermen. And then because the writers clearly have such a soft spot for them, they let the fact that they're Daleks carry the episodes they're in and don't bother making them actually do anything fun. Yawn.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on April 04, 2012, 11:22:54 PM
I think I need to be thoroughly searched... 

(http://amypond.com/amypondfiles/imagecache/full/amy.jpg)

I have a concealed weapon, officer.....  ^-^
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: The Angel Raliel on May 19, 2012, 03:29:31 PM
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/181834_10150851545529475_503684474_10028914_533817598_n.jpg)
what started as a bored at work digital doodle has now become an annoying "thing" due to rendering time being REALLY SLOW...i have entire buildings and stuff to add and it has already taken 2+ hours to render
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on June 08, 2012, 12:26:11 PM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17p4uoh4l3d6ejpg/original.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on June 16, 2012, 07:16:31 PM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17pz511xj1qdujpg/original.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on June 17, 2012, 12:09:53 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17pz511xj1qdujpg/original.jpg)

"Got the chamaeleon circuit sort-of working, but now the time-and space-coordinates are
mostly stuck, so we're at the same time, and only a few yards away from ourselves....

The threat of a time-paradox disaster is immense."
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on June 17, 2012, 12:39:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/YQLbwOGT8eM
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on June 24, 2012, 11:29:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/_U0QDt8wiCs&feature=player_embedded


 :D

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on August 22, 2012, 10:09:49 AM
what's your Time Lord name?     http://www.zetacity.com/insidethetardis/games_timelordname.aspx

my real name:  The Physician

my 'Box name:   The Evil Eater

 :D
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Astica on August 22, 2012, 07:01:41 PM
My real name: The Surgeon

My interwebs name: Lord Ramasus
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on August 22, 2012, 07:47:17 PM
So..... The nephew made me watch "Looney Toons: Back In Action"....
(It was kinda weak, but hey, Jenna Elfman...)


Oh look!  Daleks!   :D
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on August 23, 2012, 01:20:55 AM
what's your Time Lord name?     http://www.zetacity.com/insidethetardis/games_timelordname.aspx

my real name:  The Physician

my 'Box name:   The Evil Eater

 :D

The Surgeon for my real name, and for my Box name..... Craig. Fucking Craig. What the fucking fuck.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on August 23, 2012, 01:39:46 AM
The Surgeon for my real name, and for my Box name..... Craig. Fucking Craig. What the fucking fuck.

(http://img.poptower.com/pic-4956/late-show-craig-ferguson.jpg?d=1024)
Best host - I think you lot call them "presenters" - on American TV.
He's Scottish, of course. You can see him playing the (English) boss on "The Drew Carey Show",
and in a greatly-underrated film entitled "The Big Tease".  My best friend in the whole world is
also called Craig, but you wouldn't have seen him on the telly.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on August 23, 2012, 01:49:14 AM
I have a sneaking suspicion they were thinking more along the lines of James Cordon's character, which is sad because he's fat.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on August 23, 2012, 05:46:15 AM
Real name: The Magician

Box Name: Loranos
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on September 03, 2012, 10:06:30 AM
Neil Gaiman's at it again:     http://io9.com/5940031/more-details-about-neil-gaimans-new-doctor-who-episode
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on September 03, 2012, 10:22:57 AM
Neil Gaiman's at it again:     http://io9.com/5940031/more-details-about-neil-gaimans-new-doctor-who-episode

I didn't squee, because I'm way to cool and tough for that, but omfg xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on September 03, 2012, 02:42:56 PM
Neil Gaiman's at it again:     http://io9.com/5940031/more-details-about-neil-gaimans-new-doctor-who-episode
I didn't squee, because I'm way to cool and tough for that, but omfg xD
You may, in this case, squee without sacrificing any of your immense cool-factor.
 
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on September 03, 2012, 02:44:48 PM
Neil Gaiman's at it again:     http://io9.com/5940031/more-details-about-neil-gaimans-new-doctor-who-episode
I didn't squee, because I'm way to cool and tough for that, but omfg xD
You may, in this case, squee without sacrificing any of your immense cool-factor.

In that case....

(http://i.imgur.com/E1m77.gif)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: N.U. on September 05, 2012, 09:55:00 AM
Real name: The Cleaner

Box name: Lord Octosi
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on September 09, 2012, 09:16:52 PM
Neil Gaiman's at it again:     http://io9.com/5940031/more-details-about-neil-gaimans-new-doctor-who-episode
I didn't squee, because I'm way to cool and tough for that, but omfg xD
You may, in this case, squee without sacrificing any of your immense cool-factor.

In that case....

(http://i.imgur.com/E1m77.gif)

https://twitter.com/neilhimself/status/244929545189335040
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: NikosGr on September 10, 2012, 03:27:43 AM
for years now i've been meaning to get into this series but everytime i'm in the mood to start i get lost and don't know from where to start?! i'm afraid that if i just start from a random doctor i will be missing out on stuff and perhaps i won't understand what it's all about. any advice on what would be a good season with which to start? though if someone says season 1 i don't think i will bother!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on September 10, 2012, 03:42:01 AM
For the most part, it doesn't really matter where you start. Sure starting with the 9th Doctor would be best. But, I've seen people start with 11, and go back to season 1 and watch from the 9th Doctor.

I started watching from Season 1, then fell off the train. But got back on with Season 5, before going back to rewatch the other seasons.
If you don't want to start with season 1. Then begin with season 5, and if you like it enough, see if you want to go back to season 1 and discover the 2 previous doctors.

I haven't gone back earlier than the 9th doctor yet, mostly because I'm unsure where to start with them.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: NikosGr on September 10, 2012, 03:52:44 AM
the 9th doctor is the one who launched the new series right? that seems like a good place to start. most people have been saying to me that i should start with the old series and i felt overwelmed by the amount of seasons in that. i'll start downloading the 9th doctor then and see what happens.i believe that's the one with Billie as the assistant?! i liked her back when i was a teenager. but i will be really looking forward to the season in which Catherine Tate appears. I adore her!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: absynth aura on September 10, 2012, 04:18:15 AM
the 9th doctor is the one who launched the new series right? that seems like a good place to start. most people have been saying to me that i should start with the old series and i felt overwelmed by the amount of seasons in that. i'll start downloading the 9th doctor then and see what happens.i believe that's the one with Billie as the assistant?! i liked her back when i was a teenager. but i will be really looking forward to the season in which Catherine Tate appears. I adore her!
Yes, the 9th kickstarted the new series.
Catherine and Billie are my favourite companions.
There is a lot to go back to in the old series. I agree. Which is part of why I haven't gone there yet.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: NikosGr on September 10, 2012, 04:44:51 AM
i'm downloading the 1st season of the new series.and if i feel it's not my cup of tea, i'll keep in mind that i should give season 5 a go too.although i rarely abandon series (or books, or movies for that matter).thanx for the advice!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on September 10, 2012, 11:00:30 AM
@Niels - I'm right with you on the Moff front. I'm actually thinking of not watching this season at all. I watched last week with Oswin and it made me so sad and angry that it took me ages to get round to watching this week's episode, and then I was just disgusted by it before the opening credits so I turned it off. Moffat is a sexist, queer-baiting cunt with no grasp on the morality that Russell T Davies established when he was show-runner. He's dragging the show through the muck, and it actually hurts a little bit.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: NikosGr on September 10, 2012, 11:04:10 AM
i've watched the first 4 episodes of season 1 and i'm hooked. i hope i can finish the first 6 seasons before the 7th ends, so i can watch it live as it goes
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Indja on September 10, 2012, 11:13:24 AM
^1-5 are the bomb ;)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on September 11, 2012, 01:24:31 AM
You could always go back to the REAL season 1...

Most or all of it was available on Netflix last time I checked...

(http://www.nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/first-doctor.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on September 11, 2012, 01:55:55 AM
For the most part, it doesn't really matter where you start. Sure starting with the 9th Doctor would be best. But, I've seen people start with 11, and go back to season 1 and watch from the 9th Doctor.

I started watching from Season 1, then fell off the train. But got back on with Season 5, before going back to rewatch the other seasons.
If you don't want to start with season 1. Then begin with season 5, and if you like it enough, see if you want to go back to season 1 and discover the 2 previous doctors.

I haven't gone back earlier than the 9th doctor yet, mostly because I'm unsure where to start with them.
Check out the fourth doctor. Tom Baker is awesome and Sarah Jane was rad too.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: NikosGr on September 11, 2012, 03:09:21 AM
You could always go back to the REAL season 1...

Most or all of it was available on Netflix last time I checked...

(http://www.nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/first-doctor.jpg)
unfortunately i can't use netflix from my greece

For the most part, it doesn't really matter where you start. Sure starting with the 9th Doctor would be best. But, I've seen people start with 11, and go back to season 1 and watch from the 9th Doctor.

I started watching from Season 1, then fell off the train. But got back on with Season 5, before going back to rewatch the other seasons.
If you don't want to start with season 1. Then begin with season 5, and if you like it enough, see if you want to go back to season 1 and discover the 2 previous doctors.

I haven't gone back earlier than the 9th doctor yet, mostly because I'm unsure where to start with them.
Check out the fourth doctor. Tom Baker is awesome and Sarah Jane was rad too.
i'm on season 1 of the new series but i'm so hooked that when i finish it i'll definitely check some of the previous doctors.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: imaginary friend on September 12, 2012, 10:19:54 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17yuhg03h0bw8jpg/original.jpg)

 :D

get your mind out of the gutter - it's a boiled egg holder. 
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: NikosGr on September 12, 2012, 02:21:02 PM
season 1 finished and it was amazing! i can't believe i've been missing out on this for so long. at first i thought i wouldn't accept Christopher Eccleston for the part because i always had David Tenant in my mind as the doctor, but it turns out he was really good. i'm now starting season 2, so i'll see what Tenant gave to the character!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: N.U. on September 12, 2012, 05:43:08 PM
The issue with Eccleston is he has never liked sticking with one program/character for too long. His Duke of Norfolk in Elizabeth was still one of the best performances in the movie I've seen.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: NikosGr on September 13, 2012, 02:50:21 AM
The issue with Eccleston is he has never liked sticking with one program/character for too long. His Duke of Norfolk in Elizabeth was still one of the best performances in the movie I've seen.
i thought i didn't know who he was at first and after i looked him up on imdb i realised i'd seen many of the movies he's been in.i'll have to rewatch some of them now!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: Mockery on September 13, 2012, 08:54:25 PM
You could always go back to the REAL season 1...

Most or all of it was available on Netflix last time I checked...

(http://www.nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/first-doctor.jpg)

Mr. H will always have a special place in my heart. He was my first Doctor. He broke my Who cherry.

Now I have a question. Am I the only one whose a bit annoyed with Rose in the way she dealt with Mickey?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: imaginary friend on September 14, 2012, 11:02:11 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17z28gcqlxpmsjpg/original.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: CeeGBee on September 17, 2012, 12:03:54 AM
Now I have a question. Am I the only one whose a bit annoyed with Rose in the way she dealt with Mickey?
Tough call.....

I mean, on the one hand, Mickey was a tool, and he was out of his league with her to begin with....
...but she did kinda dick him over.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Indja on September 17, 2012, 03:35:39 PM
^She totally dicked him over, but it was never going to end well for those two. But that's OK - characters are allowed to do dicky things that we think are unreasonable, even/especially if we love those characters :) Cue the Doctor's entire relationship with Martha - he spend a whole series being a dick to her, and then she just BAMFs her way out of it like a muthafucka. I've decided to love Martha now xD

I've also decided to stop watching Moffat's Who because it makes me sad and angry. Even not watching it, I still had a lengthy conversation today about what a cunt he is xD
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: buttercup. on September 18, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
After totally geeking out about a farscape actor being in the show, I got really depressed about that last episode. A GUN? SERIOUSLY? DO I NEED TO YOUTUBE ALL THE TIMES HE SAID GUNS WERE BAD?

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Post by: Indja on September 18, 2012, 02:27:02 PM
After totally geeking out about a farscape actor being in the show, I got really depressed about that last episode. A GUN? SERIOUSLY? DO I NEED TO YOUTUBE ALL THE TIMES HE SAID GUNS WERE BAD?

I haven't watched it and that makes me sad. THOSE THINGS ARE NEVER USEFUL.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: N.U. on September 18, 2012, 06:10:57 PM
Guns absolutely are useful.

as paperweights
as a bargaining chip
as a quick way to get money
as a game
as a way to guarantee access to socialized medicine in a heavily structured environment.

My concern is that Matt Smith is the 11th doctor. By rule, there's only one regeneration left.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: imaginary friend on September 18, 2012, 06:15:43 PM
this guy should be the next Doc:

(http://www.serenity.whedonsworld.co.uk/pix/char/main/operative/operative01.jpg)
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Post by: Pope Totalfrog on September 18, 2012, 06:21:42 PM
Guns absolutely are useful.

as paperweights
as a bargaining chip
as a quick way to get money
as a game
as a way to guarantee access to socialized medicine in a heavily structured environment.

My concern is that Matt Smith is the 11th doctor. By rule, there's only one regeneration left.
They get 12 regenerations. So that means there are two left.

At least there would have been but they conveniently made him immortal a couple of years ago http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/oct/12/doctor-who-immortal-reveals-bbc
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Post by: Indja on September 18, 2012, 07:30:42 PM
1. Regeneration - They'll swing it somehow. It might be hella lame and deus ex, but whatever.

2. Chiwitel Ejiofor - Oh my God yes, please, for fuck's sake. Or, Idris Elba <3 ! He's already got the right name xD Certainly time for a BAMFy black Doctor though.

3. Guns' uselessness - You have to work on your BTVS references, bro ;) Though I got it wrong, should have said 'helpful', not 'useful'....
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Post by: CeeGBee on September 19, 2012, 02:20:50 AM
3. Guns' uselessness - You have to work on your BTVS references, bro ;) Though I got it wrong, should have said 'helpful', not 'useful'....
I'm reminded of the big gunfight at the end of "Quigley Down Under".........
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: NikosGr on September 21, 2012, 04:21:54 PM
just finished watching season 4 with the specials! i really can't think of better episodes. Amazing doctor and amazing companion. i really wish there would have been more Tennant+Tate episodes. Tomorrow i'm starting with season 5 and i'm really afraid of the change.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: N.U. on September 21, 2012, 06:17:35 PM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/khazim/382434_357815794290466_1752639653_n_zps9398cf07.jpg)
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Post by: Mockery on September 23, 2012, 06:44:18 PM
this guy should be the next Doc:

(http://www.serenity.whedonsworld.co.uk/pix/char/main/operative/operative01.jpg)
I'd be down for that.

But what I really would be down for is some Martha and Doctor make outs.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: NikosGr on October 02, 2012, 02:05:07 PM
the past couple of weeks i managed to watch the entire series so i could watch the Angels take Manhatan in time. i can't believe i hadn't started watching this earlier. it instantly became one of my favorite series! as for the last episode it was very well made, and probably one of the best in the entire series. My fave duo was Tennant and Tate, but still i think Matt Smith is brilliant, and i really liked the idea of a married couple as the companions. The Ponds were ideal! I also believe their farewell was the most beautifully planned of all the companion farewells in the series. such a poetic, meaningful and emotionally profound episode. can't wait for more now.i may have to dig on the archive of the old series, so as not to lose touch with the doctor until christmas comes.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Reptile on October 02, 2012, 03:24:47 PM
so who else cried while watching The Angels Take Manhattan?

I cried. I had no idea before watching that this was their last one! Also the angels are the scariest villains. 
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Post by: chellinchen on October 02, 2012, 04:34:58 PM
I enjoyed it in the moment, but all the gaping plot holes that became immediately apparent once I had a second to think about it made me really sad.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: lucy on October 02, 2012, 05:48:09 PM
so who else cried while watching The Angels Take Manhattan?
I did. Not much but then I don't normally cry watching telly (unless it's Grey's Anatomy... yep I'm THAT girl).
I really loved the episode, I thought it was absolutely amazing! Although I can understand (and partially agree with) a lot of the criticism about this season (everywhere online), I've actually enjoyed this season so far. It's not been as good as earlier episodes (in my opinion), but I certainly didn't dislike them as much as some people seem to.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Katherine May Williams on October 03, 2012, 01:35:20 AM
The angels are the best/scariest thing to come out of new Who by far. I love them. Fuck the Daleks.

The latest episode was.. good. But it could/should have been better. And sadder. I wanted to wail hopelessly when Amy and Rory went. I was all ready to sob and bash my head against a tree. That didn't happen. Disappointed. Could've used one more draft, imo.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO THE 11TH HOUR
Post by: sangrebloom on October 03, 2012, 01:38:54 AM
I loved it.

New companion rules. She is funny, and I have such a thing for ginger women. I like them a bit older mostly, but she is mega-hot.

Yus! She is indeed.

I didn't realise how annoying 10ant was getting until now he's gone xD He's just a bit gurny. Really the only problem I have with this one is his complete lack of eyebrows. Does nobody else care about this?! EYEBROWS ARE IMPORTANT!!

I AGREE!!! His whole face is strange without them!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Reptile on October 03, 2012, 09:37:18 AM
There were A LOT of things I didn't like about this episode (River's broken wrist, statue of liberty as an angel, moffat's look-how-clever-I-am writing,...) but I think the exit of the Ponds was great.

I like the broken wrist thing. The statue of liberty is silly, there is no way no one in new york was looking at it whenever someone tried to escape the building.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Reptile on October 04, 2012, 06:50:55 AM
There were A LOT of things I didn't like about this episode (River's broken wrist, statue of liberty as an angel, moffat's look-how-clever-I-am writing,...) but I think the exit of the Ponds was great.

I like the broken wrist thing. The statue of liberty is silly, there is no way no one in new york was looking at it whenever someone tried to escape the building.

The broken wrist is not appropriate for a show aimed primarily at children. That is actual horror movie material, and does not belong in Doctor who. The statue of liberty was indeed silly, but undermines the credibility of the entire story. I'm also pretty sure they made it clear in some earlier episode that the angels are made of stone, which the statue of liberty isn't.

I forgot it's also for kids, you're right it is too far.

It would have been fine to have a larger mascot style statue on the rooftop or gargoyles would have been ace.

i loved the cloaked woman and child watching that man's house though, that was cool.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: chellinchen on October 04, 2012, 11:27:32 AM
There were A LOT of things I didn't like about this episode (River's broken wrist, statue of liberty as an angel, moffat's look-how-clever-I-am writing,...) but I think the exit of the Ponds was great.

I like the broken wrist thing. The statue of liberty is silly, there is no way no one in new york was looking at it whenever someone tried to escape the building.

The broken wrist is not appropriate for a show aimed primarily at children. That is actual horror movie material, and does not belong in Doctor who. The statue of liberty was indeed silly, but undermines the credibility of the entire story. I'm also pretty sure they made it clear in some earlier episode that the angels are made of stone, which the statue of liberty isn't.

I forgot it's also for kids, you're right it is too far.

It would have been fine to have a larger mascot style statue on the rooftop or gargoyles would have been ace.

i loved the cloaked woman and child watching that man's house though, that was cool.

Having seen both old & new Who, it has never struck me as a show for children.

It certainly can appeal to a younger demographic, but the plots & themes have always seemed very adult to me.

I suppose the broken wrist didn't strike me as inappropriate, even for children - especially since we don't actually see River wresting her arm away from the angel.

Your mileage may vary, of course.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Reptile on October 04, 2012, 11:34:20 AM
I think it's worse that you don't get to see it, like she is just left to deal with being in the grips of an angel and breaking her wrist by herself and you're left to imagine if it were you, how would you get out? The thing that saves it is that it gets healed pretty much immediately,
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on October 04, 2012, 05:40:05 PM
There were A LOT of things I didn't like about this episode (River's broken wrist, statue of liberty as an angel, moffat's look-how-clever-I-am writing,...) but I think the exit of the Ponds was great.

I like the broken wrist thing. The statue of liberty is silly, there is no way no one in new york was looking at it whenever someone tried to escape the building.

The broken wrist is not appropriate for a show aimed primarily at children. That is actual horror movie material, and does not belong in Doctor who. The statue of liberty was indeed silly, but undermines the credibility of the entire story. I'm also pretty sure they made it clear in some earlier episode that the angels are made of stone, which the statue of liberty isn't.
Doctor Who isn't a kid's show. Never has been. Children watch it but it isn't made for them. 
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: CeeGBee on October 05, 2012, 01:31:53 AM
There were A LOT of things I didn't like about this episode (River's broken wrist, statue of liberty as an angel, moffat's look-how-clever-I-am writing,...) but I think the exit of the Ponds was great.

I like the broken wrist thing. The statue of liberty is silly, there is no way no one in new york was looking at it whenever someone tried to escape the building.

The broken wrist is not appropriate for a show aimed primarily at children. That is actual horror movie material, and does not belong in Doctor who. The statue of liberty was indeed silly, but undermines the credibility of the entire story. I'm also pretty sure they made it clear in some earlier episode that the angels are made of stone, which the statue of liberty isn't.
Doctor Who isn't a kid's show. Never has been. Children watch it but it isn't made for them.
As I understand the history of the programme, it was originally intended as "family viewing"
containing both sorta-historic and sorta-scientific story elements.

It's evolved a bit from that.                      (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/317/9/f/rocking_tardis_icon_by_squidlarkin-d32rtme.gif)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on October 05, 2012, 03:40:44 AM
There were A LOT of things I didn't like about this episode (River's broken wrist, statue of liberty as an angel, moffat's look-how-clever-I-am writing,...) but I think the exit of the Ponds was great.

I like the broken wrist thing. The statue of liberty is silly, there is no way no one in new york was looking at it whenever someone tried to escape the building.

The broken wrist is not appropriate for a show aimed primarily at children. That is actual horror movie material, and does not belong in Doctor who. The statue of liberty was indeed silly, but undermines the credibility of the entire story. I'm also pretty sure they made it clear in some earlier episode that the angels are made of stone, which the statue of liberty isn't.
Doctor Who isn't a kid's show. Never has been. Children watch it but it isn't made for them.
As I understand the history of the programme, it was originally intended as "family viewing"
containing both sorta-historic and sorta-scientific story elements.

It's evolved a bit from that.                      (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/317/9/f/rocking_tardis_icon_by_squidlarkin-d32rtme.gif)
It still is family viewing. My family view it on a weekly basis. People have been complaining that Doctor Who is too scary for kids ever since it started in the 60's. I think that could be why kids love it so much.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: NikosGr on October 05, 2012, 05:34:35 AM
That's one of my main problems with Moffat's writing. He wants to completely change what Doctor Who is all about.
i watched the entire new series in the past couple of weeks. i can't complain about Moffat's vision. I enjoyed all seasons equally, Tennant and Tate were the ultimate duo for me, but i really enjoy the 11th doctor as well. seasons 5-7 seem like they're from a different show, but i can't complain. i love the writing in most episodes, and the dynamic between the Doctor and the Ponds was refreshing.i can imagine though that viewers who've spent years watching the show, may feel like Mofffat betraued the format of the original show.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Mockery on October 06, 2012, 08:45:47 PM
Okay, question time: Which Doctor would you like to bang?
(http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/three-doctors-2005-smith-tennant-eccleston.jpg)

For me, it's a tie between Chris Eccleston and David Tennant. I'd be happy with either of them but happier with both of them
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: CeeGBee on October 07, 2012, 07:49:07 PM
I'm gonna have to say........

Joanna Lumley   O0

(http://www.shillpages.com/dw/story/d8/st--9b56.jpg)  (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbctm8WLX61qcwhkeo6_r2_250.gif)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Reptile on October 08, 2012, 07:40:45 AM
It's got to be David Tennant, especially with his real accent!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: The Angel Raliel on October 09, 2012, 06:33:03 AM
Due to Neil recently confessing to a Mary poppins fetish and Amanda expressing a desire to fulfil this in a doctor who episode.... this got created....
(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/c80.0.403.403/p403x403/183502_10151120186504475_1480341472_n.jpg)
the Doctor becomes the assistant of Mary Poppins (played by AfP) in an adventure to save the worlds children fromm an evil nanny invasion....Mary Poppins status as an ancient rogue time lord is revealed.....
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: imaginary friend on October 09, 2012, 10:01:51 AM
50 anniversary show news?    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/tv/news/Billie+Piper-260761.html
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: chellinchen on October 09, 2012, 11:26:10 AM
50 anniversary show news?    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/tv/news/Billie+Piper-260761.html

I'm trying so hard not to get too excited about the anniversary, because I don't want to end up disappointed.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: sangrebloom on October 09, 2012, 09:45:35 PM
but wouldn't that mean 10.5 would be there as well?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: imaginary friend on October 12, 2012, 01:57:57 PM
a storyboard version of a scene that was never shot, telling what happened to the Ponds and Rory's dad:

http://www.youtube.com/v/XWU6XL9xI4k&feature=player_embedded

Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Mockery on October 14, 2012, 08:39:14 PM
It's got to be David Tennant, especially with his real accent!
Can I join?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Reptile on October 15, 2012, 05:57:16 AM
It's got to be David Tennant, especially with his real accent!
Can I join?

Certainly, it is good to share!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Mockery on October 17, 2012, 10:11:16 PM
It's got to be David Tennant, especially with his real accent!
Can I join?

Certainly, it is good to share!

Allonsy then!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: nottheonethatscrazy on October 26, 2012, 05:07:07 PM
Thoughts:

The Doctor + Rose forever.
Amy Pond is essentially Bella from Twilight. Classic damsel in distress.
Rory is lovely.
That's one of my main problems with Moffat's writing. He wants to completely change what Doctor Who is all about.
^Agreed completely.
I miss many of the great acting parts that Eccleston and Tennant had, where they really had an opportunity to explore the Doctor's mind and beliefs, whereas now I don't feel like I get enough of those good serious moments. It's all about Amy Pond and does she love Rory or the Doctor and oh but Rory thinks he loves her more and blahblahblah. I still love the show, but I feel like it's lost something.
p.s. I really want a follow up on 10.5/metacrisis Doctor and Rose.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: sangrebloom on October 27, 2012, 10:39:54 PM
^ Yes to all of that! (yay 10.5!)

It took me a long time to get to really like Matt Smith as The Doctor, and they gave him this 'clean slate' to work with... is it wrong that I look forward to who will be the next Doctor already? I'm also not terribly thrilled with the new companion either. I feel that this Doctor had to 'grow on me' A LOT.
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Post by: nottheonethatscrazy on October 28, 2012, 08:01:30 PM
I just dunno if anyone will top David Tennant for me. Matt Smith is still gonna have to grow on me. I feel like, even though Tennant's interpretation of the Doctor is different than Eccleston's, it is a believable transition. When 9 first met Rose, he was very pessimistic and down about the human race as a whole, and really didn't have much faith in them. But through Rose and traveling with her he softens and begins to have more hope, which you can start to see in the end of 9 and definitely in 10. It's like he tells Rose when he gives her 10.5. Rose made him better and helped free him of all that rage and recklessness, and she could do the same for 10.5.
I feel like Matt Smith is just kind of a curve ball. I know that every actor has to put their own spin on the Doctor, but I can't really see any of 9 or 10 in 11. He seems more naive and almost less experienced than the previous Doctors.
I'd definitely like to see a new Doctor soon. And the new companion seems to be a lot like Amy Pond.
Kind of sassy, pretty, cutesy. What I miss about Rose and Martha and even Donna is that they all helped and knew what to do without the Doctor, like Rose in The Satan Pit episode in season 2. She believes the Doctor might be dead and has no way of reaching him, but she still galvanizes everyone together and tries to actively think of solutions to problems, instead of getting herself caught or always waiting on the Doctor's help. It seemed that Oswin was clever, but I think most of that was contributed to the fact that she was (unbeknownst to herself) a Dalek.
I suppose what bothers me the most is that Moffat likes to pretend that Amy Pond is the only companion that the Doctor has ever cared about. His special favorite. He never mentions any previous companions, even though 10 spent two whole seasons kind of pining for Rose. He seems to completely forgotten about everyone else other than Pond.
I know, new Doctor and whatnot, but it seems like a completely different show since Tennant left.

My god. I didn't realize I had all that to say...
I'll just be leaving now...haha.
I
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Post by: sangrebloom on October 28, 2012, 11:37:46 PM
I just dunno if anyone will top David Tennant for me. Matt Smith is still gonna have to grow on me. I feel like, even though Tennant's interpretation of the Doctor is different than Eccleston's, it is a believable transition. When 9 first met Rose, he was very pessimistic and down about the human race as a whole, and really didn't have much faith in them. But through Rose and traveling with her he softens and begins to have more hope, which you can start to see in the end of 9 and definitely in 10. It's like he tells Rose when he gives her 10.5. Rose made him better and helped free him of all that rage and recklessness, and she could do the same for 10.5.
I feel like Matt Smith is just kind of a curve ball. I know that every actor has to put their own spin on the Doctor, but I can't really see any of 9 or 10 in 11. He seems more naive and almost less experienced than the previous Doctors.
I'd definitely like to see a new Doctor soon. And the new companion seems to be a lot like Amy Pond.
Kind of sassy, pretty, cutesy. What I miss about Rose and Martha and even Donna is that they all helped and knew what to do without the Doctor, like Rose in The Satan Pit episode in season 2. She believes the Doctor might be dead and has no way of reaching him, but she still galvanizes everyone together and tries to actively think of solutions to problems, instead of getting herself caught or always waiting on the Doctor's help. It seemed that Oswin was clever, but I think most of that was contributed to the fact that she was (unbeknownst to herself) a Dalek.
I suppose what bothers me the most is that Moffat likes to pretend that Amy Pond is the only companion that the Doctor has ever cared about. His special favorite. He never mentions any previous companions, even though 10 spent two whole seasons kind of pining for Rose. He seems to completely forgotten about everyone else other than Pond.
I know, new Doctor and whatnot, but it seems like a completely different show since Tennant left.

My god. I didn't realize I had all that to say...
I'll just be leaving now...haha.
I
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Yes, I can agree with all that.  If anything he's acted like all he wanted to do is forget all the other companions, he was three words away from declaring his love for Rose if you ask me. 
When they were in planet that was a library, River Song talked about the future Doctor as someone that grew past Tennant's wee bit angsty Doctor and instead He's this kinda ironic hipster who only realizes he likes glasses after he swipes Amy's when before he carried around his own.   Seeing him upset is the only thing that made him grow on me...and his lack of eyebrows disturbs me.
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Post by: nottheonethatscrazy on October 29, 2012, 11:12:43 PM
Yeah, he is definitely the hipster's Doctor. Kind of fumbling and socially awkward.
Speaking of River, I like her lots. Those two library episodes in season 4 are some of my favorites.
And...eyebrows...http://heckyadoctorwho.tumblr.com/post/34093997519
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Post by: sangrebloom on October 30, 2012, 02:15:01 PM
LOL! that is just amazing! Hysterical! I just ran around the house showing all the housemates. We love you for that.
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Post by: CeeGBee on October 31, 2012, 09:59:03 PM
So I was just watching an old re-run of Remington Steele, and there was Tom Baker
as a washed-up, disgraced ex-cop who's trying to frame the gem thief who made a
fool of him years before.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: nottheonethatscrazy on November 02, 2012, 09:03:57 PM
LOL! that is just amazing! Hysterical! I just ran around the house showing all the housemates. We love you for that.
Like...I never realized that he was eyebrow-less until I saw that. Then I had to go back and look at everything Matt Smith ever. I was astounded.

So I was just watching an old re-run of Remington Steele, and there was Tom Baker
as a washed-up, disgraced ex-cop who's trying to frame the gem thief who made a
fool of him years before.
He's just the Doctor trying to spice up his life.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Miranda. on November 12, 2012, 10:29:07 PM
just watched my first episode of dr who! rose and mickey just left their trash by the fountain wtf? aaannndd there seems to be lots of running involved. looks tiring. favorite bit was when roses mom hit on the doctor and his response was "no."
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: CeeGBee on November 13, 2012, 12:32:55 AM
....there seems to be lots of running involved...

One episode, and you've already noticed.   O0
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Post by: Miranda. on November 13, 2012, 11:17:52 AM
....there seems to be lots of running involved...

One episode, and you've already noticed.   O0

I'm observant that way :P


halfway through episode 2: "Gift of... air from my lungs"   :tongue7:
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Post by: imaginary friend on November 15, 2012, 06:55:47 PM
from the Christmas special:

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/185fa1usosm1kjpg/original.jpg)




...i miss karen.
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Post by: Miranda. on November 15, 2012, 07:16:00 PM
"I could save the world but lose you"

"victoryyyy should be naked!!!!"
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Post by: Miranda. on November 15, 2012, 07:22:17 PM
all this world ending business is taxing
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Post by: CeeGBee on November 15, 2012, 07:53:50 PM
Catching up on older episodes, I have learnt something... well, painfully obvious
once you think about it:  Kylie Minogue woulda made a great Doctor's Companion.
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Post by: Miranda. on November 15, 2012, 08:36:29 PM
A dalek!!! I'm meeting my first real live Dalek!!
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Post by: new hybrid on November 16, 2012, 04:33:01 AM
karen gillan-wouldsmash/10
 she lives near me too, oh lawdy i hear the divorce lawyers calling!
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Post by: NikosGr on November 17, 2012, 12:28:13 PM
Doctor Who: The Great Detective (Christmas Special Prequel):
http://www.youtube.com/v/G17_B4uACgg

Doctor Who: Christmas Special Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/v/L3KVpvEUTns
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Post by: CeeGBee on November 17, 2012, 02:27:05 PM
A dalek!!! I'm meeting my first real live Dalek!!

http://www.youtube.com/v/YQLbwOGT8eM
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Post by: sangrebloom on November 19, 2012, 01:14:50 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/535444_557293694286548_749016416_n.jpg)
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Post by: imaginary friend on December 12, 2012, 09:33:11 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/1882r8dovi8h1jpg/original.jpg)
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Post by: NikosGr on December 12, 2012, 11:41:27 AM
^i want this :D
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Post by: Miranda. on December 19, 2012, 04:12:42 PM
(http://media.firebox.com/pic/p5356_column_grid_5.jpg)

Doctor Who Sonic Screwdriver Universal Remote Control (http://www.firebox.com/product/5356/Doctor-Who-Sonic-Screwdriver-Universal-Remote-Control?via=xmas_home)  "Take control like a Time Lord"
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Post by: NikosGr on December 26, 2012, 03:58:11 AM
the episode was a bit mediocre, but it had some outbursts of brilliance.

Spoilers
Clara was instantly likable, and the one word test was heartbreaking but so well written. Being a relatively new fan i never managed to dislike what Moffat did to Doctor Who, and i really like where this is going. And the Sherlock references....can we please get a 3rd season already....Also loved the new and recurring monsters after the end credits. can't wait for Neil's cybermen.
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Post by: imaginary friend on December 26, 2012, 10:23:00 AM
(http://media.firebox.com/pic/p5356_column_grid_5.jpg)

Doctor Who Sonic Screwdriver Universal Remote Control (http://www.firebox.com/product/5356/Doctor-Who-Sonic-Screwdriver-Universal-Remote-Control?via=xmas_home)  "Take control like a Time Lord"

that looks like something else for some other purpose.
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Post by: N.U. on December 26, 2012, 11:19:10 AM
Sonic Screwdriver, amirite?
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Post by: nottheonethatscrazy on December 31, 2012, 07:17:58 PM
My jury is still out on Clara. All that timey wimey stuff with her is confusing.
I still ship Rose/Ten forever so it's hard for me to like any new companions.
I loved Rory, but I'm glad to see that Amy is gone.
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Post by: imaginary friend on January 04, 2013, 12:23:46 PM
http://io9.com/5973120/jk-rowling-may-+-may-+-be-writing-a-doctor-who-story
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Post by: Indja on January 04, 2013, 05:19:58 PM
http://io9.com/5973120/jk-rowling-may-+-may-+-be-writing-a-doctor-who-story

OH MY GOD. Alan Garner's also on the list? FUCK YES. And Kate Thompson is a fucking badass, as are Anthony Horowitz and Philip Pullman and oh God even just the vague suggestion of this has made my day.
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Post by: imaginary friend on February 07, 2013, 06:51:40 PM
Matt Smith might be coming here to make a movie:   http://www.freep.com/article/20130207/ENT01/130207044/Dr-Who-Matt-Smith-How-to-Catch-a-Monster-Ryan-Gosling

...of course, Christina Hendricks' involvement is what really interests me.  :love5:
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Post by: Balloon Boy on February 09, 2013, 12:34:17 PM
Matt Smith might be coming here to make a movie:   http://www.freep.com/article/20130207/ENT01/130207044/Dr-Who-Matt-Smith-How-to-Catch-a-Monster-Ryan-Gosling

...of course, Christina Hendricks' involvement is what really interests me.  :love5:

As a Fetich Mistress.

Hmm.

I'll be in my bunk.
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Post by: imaginary friend on February 09, 2013, 08:02:52 PM
http://www.scifind.com/features/the-other-11-doctors/
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Post by: CeeGBee on February 09, 2013, 11:03:04 PM
http://www.scifind.com/features/the-other-11-doctors/
(http://doctorher.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/1956.jpg) (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbhtglsP521qcwhkeo1_250.gif)

canon schmanon..... :tongue2:
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Post by: imaginary friend on March 01, 2013, 01:35:41 PM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18g5nol9jq63mjpg/original.jpg)
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Post by: absynth aura on March 01, 2013, 11:23:48 PM
Can I have his jacket?
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Post by: Miranda. on March 04, 2013, 11:48:18 AM
Can I have his jacket?

please do
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Post by: Captain Oblivious on March 04, 2013, 01:15:37 PM
Can I have his jacket?

please do

I actually have a coat that's quite similar :D
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Post by: Miranda. on March 04, 2013, 02:31:53 PM

I actually have a coat that's quite similar :D

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m993prXhYH1rc2p07o1_250.gif)
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Post by: CeeGBee on March 04, 2013, 10:25:39 PM
Okay, I know he's supposed to be THE "The Doctor" for my generation,
but Tom Baker just bugs me.
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Post by: Pope Totalfrog on March 04, 2013, 10:50:17 PM
Okay, I know he's supposed to be THE "The Doctor" for my generation,
but Tom Baker just bugs me.
He's my Doctor. I loves him.
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Post by: imaginary friend on March 24, 2013, 02:18:25 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18idei6c1s0gopng/ku-medium.png)
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Post by: SydneyMaisano on March 24, 2013, 07:20:17 PM
I recently learned an awesome Doctor Who fact. When the 11th Doctor’s bow tie is red that means he is in the future and blue if he is in the past. The tenth Doctor's suit was blue if they went forward in time and the brown if they went back in time. and the ninth's shirt color (i can't remember which was which) also depended on whether he was in the past or future.
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Post by: NikosGr on March 25, 2013, 09:05:44 AM
i've read that about Tennant but never gave much thought about the bowties of the 11th
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Post by: sangrebloom on March 25, 2013, 05:50:28 PM
That is a super fun fact! Now I kinda wanna re-watch 9th and 10th's seasons.  I'm still coping with 11th's
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Post by: SydneyMaisano on March 25, 2013, 07:52:59 PM
My favorites to re-watch are 10th with Donna. They're the best duo in my opinion
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Post by: Indja on March 26, 2013, 03:33:37 AM
My favorites to re-watch are 10th with Donna. They're the best duo in my opinion

Amen to that.
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Post by: sangrebloom on March 26, 2013, 03:42:05 AM
Donna was amazing! I think poor Martha is my least favorite. Rose/10! is fun at first, then the angst...the delicious angst...
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Post by: Indja on March 26, 2013, 07:01:35 AM
^I didn't like Martha until the second time around. Then I really fucking loved her. The acting's a bit naff, but as a character she's just fucking brilliant, especially considering the sheer volume of Grade A bullshit the Doctor puts her through that season. I think 10/Rose will always be my favourites, but Donna and Martha are both BAMFs and I love them xD
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Post by: CeeGBee on March 27, 2013, 12:12:53 AM
Two words:

Amy     policewoman     :D
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Post by: Miranda. on March 27, 2013, 12:00:19 PM
Ten/Rose was def my favorite. It has made it hard to continue onto series 2 and Eleven.
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Post by: SydneyMaisano on March 27, 2013, 10:11:46 PM
I never disliked Martha, but I was never really crazy about her. I wasn't really that upset when she left haha. And I really didn't like mickey a lot so when they ended up together I was like okay, I'm alright with this resolution haha
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Post by: imaginary friend on March 30, 2013, 02:10:08 PM
http://io9.com/confirmed-david-tennant-and-billie-piper-will-return-f-463886055
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Post by: SydneyMaisano on March 31, 2013, 12:14:04 AM
I missed the premiere tonight because I'm on Spring Break and the place I'm staying at doesn't have BBC America. I keep seeing things about how good it was. I'm so excited to watch it
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Post by: Balloon Boy on March 31, 2013, 03:59:35 PM
http://io9.com/confirmed-david-tennant-and-billie-piper-will-return-f-463886055

Far more excited about John Hurt being in it to be honest. I for one am fine with Tennant returning, but I found his relationship with Rose to be interminably smug, especially by the third minute of New Earth. Still, I've still the Who geek pleasure of seeing an Old Doctor returning. Would love to see the Lonely God Tennant shown Matt Smith's Doctor, the one who can make Daleks quiver, armies run away and the TARDIS doors open with a click of his finger bumble into a bookcase and such. That would be fun.

Cracking episode to return on. Delighted to see the return of SPOILER and Clara is excellent. The story actually fit within the forty-five minute running time, had some very clever moments (the aeroplane bit for example) and an excellent start to the new series and new arc. The gag about St. John's bells and Earl's Court were my favourites in particular. It looked better than Who has since the last series, but the sound mix was way, way off. The music was far too loud in some places. Good romp. Next week's looks appallingly dull from the look of the trailer, but I'll watch anyway. I have done since 1993, I'm not stopping now.

SPECULATIOn: Woman who told Clara at the desk - definitely River right?
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Post by: imaginary friend on April 02, 2013, 10:04:45 AM
first read-through of the script for the 50th anniversary special was yesterday:

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18jbedo6jii6cjpg/original.jpg)
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18jcxl60k6srdjpg/original.jpg)
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Post by: Balloon Boy on April 14, 2013, 01:26:22 PM
After a bit of a squiffy second episode, this week's Cold War was a cracking episode. Love the Ice Warrior's return, and it was basically Doctor Who does Alien on a Submarine. And it had David Warner.

David Warner.

David. Warner.
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Post by: imaginary friend on April 18, 2013, 09:19:34 AM
I know it's big, but fuck it:

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18kz1s4jbkej5jpg/original.jpg)
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Post by: imaginary friend on May 12, 2013, 07:32:28 PM
http://io9.com/doctor-who-season-finale-shows-up-in-the-mail-a-few-day-503812028
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Post by: SydneyMaisano on May 22, 2013, 06:19:09 PM
I just realized yesterday that Matt Smith shaved his head. I saw a picture of him and it definitely took me off guard
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Post by: N.U. on May 23, 2013, 02:12:32 PM
John. Fucking. Hurt.


WOW.
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Post by: imaginary friend on May 27, 2013, 02:43:06 PM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18ozlexllf0ktjpg/ku-medium.jpg)
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Post by: Pope Totalfrog on June 01, 2013, 05:37:07 PM
Matt Smith is leaving after the Christmas special. http://bbc.in/11vWNoQ
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Post by: RiverVox on June 01, 2013, 07:08:07 PM
Sad to see him go, but it's a good time to get out. The show is probably at it's peak popularity and IMHO has gone downhill in quality. He's a great Doctor.
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Post by: Pope Totalfrog on June 02, 2013, 05:12:47 AM
Sad to see him go, but it's a good time to get out. The show is probably at it's peak popularity and IMHO has gone downhill in quality. He's a great Doctor.
It's been going downhill since Moffat took over as showrunner. He's more interested in breaking into the US market than making a decent show.
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Post by: RiverVox on June 02, 2013, 10:56:49 PM
Sad to see him go, but it's a good time to get out. The show is probably at it's peak popularity and IMHO has gone downhill in quality. He's a great Doctor.
It's been going downhill since Moffat took over as showrunner. He's more interested in breaking into the US market than making a decent show.
As an American, I must defend our Whovian honor and say don't blame us! I can't stand it either. As my husband just said, "I don't care who the new Doctor is, the showrunner needs to regenerate".
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Post by: Pope Totalfrog on June 03, 2013, 06:36:25 AM
That's the thing that gets to me the most. Americans loved the show anyway. They didn't need the EXPLOSIONS! and over the top CGI. Moffat just assumed that they did and forgot that Doctor Who isn't about special effects, it's about the stories.
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Post by: SydneyMaisano on June 04, 2013, 12:47:49 AM
That's the thing that gets to me the most. Americans loved the show anyway. They didn't need the EXPLOSIONS! and over the top CGI. Moffat just assumed that they did and forgot that Doctor Who isn't about special effects, it's about the stories.
I totally agree with this. The stories beat explosions any day. And I really think a new showrunner would be a very good call
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Post by: CeeGBee on June 05, 2013, 07:35:18 PM
Wasn't attempted Americanization what killed Torchwood?

I mean, the last season had two note-worthy features:
1 - It was way-American...
2 - It was unwatchable....
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Post by: Pope Totalfrog on June 05, 2013, 08:54:57 PM
Wasn't attempted Americanization what killed Torchwood?
Yep.
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Post by: SydneyMaisano on June 09, 2013, 07:23:47 PM
Wasn't attempted Americanization what killed Torchwood?

I mean, the last season had two note-worthy features:
1 - It was way-American...
2 - It was unwatchable....

I never watched Torchwood which is weird because I love Captain Jack Harkness
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Post by: sangrebloom on June 10, 2013, 03:56:54 AM
Torchwood, UGH it still bugs me how badly that went!
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Post by: CeeGBee on June 10, 2013, 11:39:45 PM
Wasn't attempted Americanization what killed Torchwood?

I mean, the last season had two note-worthy features:
1 - It was way-American...
2 - It was unwatchable....

I never watched Torchwood which is weird because I love Captain Jack Harkness
You should watch it.*



*... Just pretend that the Daleks attack and kill EVERYONE at the end of the last
episode of season 3, so the show ends there.  YOU have neve seen season 4, so
you can just pretend it never happened.
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Post by: SydneyMaisano on June 11, 2013, 11:10:52 PM
Wasn't attempted Americanization what killed Torchwood?

I mean, the last season had two note-worthy features:
1 - It was way-American...
2 - It was unwatchable....

I never watched Torchwood which is weird because I love Captain Jack Harkness
You should watch it.*





*... Just pretend that the Daleks attack and kill EVERYONE at the end of the last
episode of season 3, so the show ends there.  YOU have neve seen season 4, so
you can just pretend it never happened.

I feel like I should at some point, but I don't really wanna start a new show. It's just a little too time consuming sometimes


(I moved your comment outside the quote-tags - Cee)
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Post by: NikosGr on June 22, 2013, 04:49:22 AM
I know that i'm one of the few that isn't bothered by the changes Moffat brought to the show...but i really think he's written some fantastic stories along the way, and created some beautiful characters! And i love how he's feeding our Wholock obsessions... The special fx never really ruin anything for me, and i gotta give credits to the man for his brilliant input on casting the show. 
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Post by: RiverVox on June 28, 2013, 10:06:01 PM
Excellent blog on race and gender in Doctor Who with a really heinous quote from Moffat:


http://www.racialicious.com/2013/06/27/race-and-gender-in-doctor-who-beyond-who-plays-the-doctor/ (http://www.racialicious.com/2013/06/27/race-and-gender-in-doctor-who-beyond-who-plays-the-doctor/)

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Post by: Pope Totalfrog on June 29, 2013, 04:44:27 AM
Excellent blog on race and gender in Doctor Who with a really heinous quote from Moffat:


http://www.racialicious.com/2013/06/27/race-and-gender-in-doctor-who-beyond-who-plays-the-doctor/ (http://www.racialicious.com/2013/06/27/race-and-gender-in-doctor-who-beyond-who-plays-the-doctor/)



Quote
“There’s this issue you’re not allowed to discuss: that women are needy. Men can go for longer, more happily, without women. That’s the truth. We don’t, as little boys, play at being married – we try to avoid it for as long as possible. Meanwhile women are out there hunting for husbands. The world is vastly counted in favour of men at every level – except if you live in a civilised country and you’re sort of educated and middle-class, because then you’re almost certainly junior in your relationship and in a state of permanent, crippled apology. Your preferences are routinely mocked. There’s a huge, unfortunate lack of respect for anything male.”

Proves my theory that Moffat is a fucking moron.
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Post by: imaginary friend on July 21, 2013, 06:43:29 PM
http://io9.com/the-doctor-who-50th-anniversary-trailer-is-an-amazing-t-860043589
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Post by: imaginary friend on August 01, 2013, 05:00:41 PM
35-foot-tall straw Dalek in England:

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18vp7yawt8x4mjpg/ku-bigpic.jpg)
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Post by: imaginary friend on August 04, 2013, 02:28:25 PM
and the new Doctor is...

Peter Capaldi.

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18vzufpyfepgajpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)
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Post by: NikosGr on August 04, 2013, 03:01:56 PM
I'm really looking forward to this! He seems like a great choice!
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Post by: Pope Totalfrog on August 04, 2013, 05:17:24 PM
I love Peter Capaldi. I may have happy danced when he walked out on stage.
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Post by: imaginary friend on August 04, 2013, 08:08:29 PM
Peter Capaldi and Craig Ferguson were in a band together back in the day, Peter was the lead singer.

He's already been a guest of Craig's late-night talk show at least once (there's clips on YouTube), but his next appearance should be fucking EPIC.
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Post by: absynth aura on August 05, 2013, 01:00:37 AM
I'm quite excited about this. He's going to be great!
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Post by: sangrebloom on August 05, 2013, 03:25:40 AM
Peter Capaldi and Craig Ferguson were in a band together back in the day, Peter was the lead singer.

He's already been a guest of Craig's late-night talk show at least once (there's clips on YouTube), but his next appearance should be fucking EPIC.

THIS!  so much excite.
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Post by: Pope Totalfrog on August 05, 2013, 05:33:20 AM
If you've never seen Capaldi in action. Here he is at his best.
http://www.youtube.com/v/LXoopmFkDBU
Some of the best swearing that television has ever seen.
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Post by: imaginary friend on August 05, 2013, 06:14:41 PM
warning: nsfw language!

http://www.youtube.com/v/5Blf073f2Lc
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Post by: Pope Totalfrog on August 05, 2013, 06:23:14 PM
warning: nsfw language!

http://www.youtube.com/v/5Blf073f2Lc
I love this. If only it was a real trailer...
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Post by: sangrebloom on August 06, 2013, 12:35:04 AM
warning: nsfw language!

http://www.youtube.com/v/5Blf073f2Lc

That just thrilled me...srsly.

I love this. If only it was a real trailer...
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Post by: N.U. on August 06, 2013, 01:23:28 PM
I speak for 90% of the Americans who watched the love broadcast when I say, "Who?"

I don't get caught up in the choice of actor, merely the choices of the actor for the role.
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Post by: Astica on August 14, 2013, 08:22:43 AM
This is an adorable photo. All the enthusiasm and wonder I love about the Doctor. I really need to get back up to speed on Doctor Who. Moffat is a little discouraging sometimes though.
(http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/33200000/11th-Doctor-the-eleventh-doctor-33248859-500-537.jpg)
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Post by: sangrebloom on August 15, 2013, 11:59:41 AM
This is an adorable photo. All the enthusiasm and wonder I love about the Doctor. I really need to get back up to speed on Doctor Who. Moffat is a little discouraging sometimes though.
(http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/33200000/11th-Doctor-the-eleventh-doctor-33248859-500-537.jpg)

I can relate to this; it doesn't help that every interview he gives he comes off as a douche.
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Post by: Dracoa on August 15, 2013, 08:57:44 PM
I'm iffy about Peter as The Doctor, after his major role on Torchwood: Children of Earth. The way I see it, it's like casting John Simm as 12, but I'll give him a chance.
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Post by: NikosGr on August 16, 2013, 04:28:29 AM
I have to admit I haven't seen any Torchwood yet. I still have a few Doctors from the classic era to watch, so maybe after that. I've only seen him on Neverwhere and The thick of it, and I have to admit I'm excited to see what he'll bring to the role. Plus I'd love to see how an older Doctor would look in the modern series. I'm in love with Hartnell's 1st.
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Post by: CeeGBee on August 16, 2013, 07:41:56 PM
I have to admit I haven't seen any Torchwood yet.

PAY CLOSE ATTENTION!

Despite whatever ANYONE may say, including the producers of the show,
there were only THREE seasons of Torchwood, and you should ONLY WATCH
THREE seasons of Torchwood, and NEVER EVER watch anything claiming
to be "the fourth season of Torchwood"....    :nono:

Got it?   O0
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Post by: imaginary friend on August 17, 2013, 11:03:06 AM
http://strangeronbakerstreet.tumblr.com/post/46821798132/certain-doctor-who-phrases-and-how-olive-garden

 :glasses9:
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Post by: NikosGr on August 17, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
I have to admit I haven't seen any Torchwood yet.

PAY CLOSE ATTENTION!

Despite whatever ANYONE may say, including the producers of the show,
there were only THREE seasons of Torchwood, and you should ONLY WATCH
THREE seasons of Torchwood, and NEVER EVER watch anything claiming
to be "the fourth season of Torchwood"....    :nono:

Got it?   O0
I think I've seen you give the same advice before, so I'll definitely follow it... O0
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Post by: Dracoa on August 17, 2013, 08:53:39 PM
I have to admit I haven't seen any Torchwood yet.

PAY CLOSE ATTENTION!

Despite whatever ANYONE may say, including the producers of the show,
there were only THREE seasons of Torchwood, and you should ONLY WATCH
THREE seasons of Torchwood, and NEVER EVER watch anything claiming
to be "the fourth season of Torchwood"....    :nono:

Got it?   O0

To be fair, Miracle Day is pretty much how things would play out in that scenario, scary as that thought is.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: armyoflarry on September 19, 2013, 01:34:58 PM
The direction of the story in Miracle Day was NOT the problem. It was how it got there, how inane they wrote the new characters, and how they murdered everything that was great about the old cast that was left from the REAL Torchwood. I wish I never saw that crap.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Mockery on October 23, 2013, 09:39:29 AM
Am I the only who is upset that we get no Chris in the upcoming Doctor Who special?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: CeeGBee on October 23, 2013, 11:21:00 PM
The direction of the story in Miracle Day was NOT the problem. It was how it got there, how inane they wrote the new characters, and how they murdered everything that was great about the old cast that was left from the REAL Torchwood. I wish I never saw that crap.

 :)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Dracoa on October 27, 2013, 01:24:18 PM
Am I the only who is upset that we get no Chris in the upcoming Doctor Who special?

Nope. I'm hoping though that Moffat and Chris have been lying this whole time, like Moffat lied about not knowing who was going to be 12(13), when from the start he knew it'd be Peter.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Mockery on November 01, 2013, 08:27:39 PM
Am I the only who is upset that we get no Chris in the upcoming Doctor Who special?

Nope. I'm hoping though that Moffat and Chris have been lying this whole time, like Moffat lied about not knowing who was going to be 12(13), when from the start he knew it'd be Peter.
I know! I want my Chris! *is sad*
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Dracoa on November 09, 2013, 11:35:50 PM
Am I the only who is upset that we get no Chris in the upcoming Doctor Who special?

Nope. I'm hoping though that Moffat and Chris have been lying this whole time, like Moffat lied about not knowing who was going to be 12(13), when from the start he knew it'd be Peter.
I know! I want my Chris! *is sad*

I know that feeling, but at least I got a dose of him in Thor: The Dark World, today.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: N.U. on November 23, 2013, 05:03:37 PM
PHENOMENAL!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: NikosGr on November 23, 2013, 07:19:09 PM
I was silently crying in the cinema for the last 20 minutes of it!when the lights went on most people there had red eyes!I came back home and I'm about to watch it on my dvr for the second time now!I hope the videos before the episode made for the cinema appear online sometime. I loved the Doctor's intro, and STRAX!!!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: N.U. on November 23, 2013, 09:18:36 PM
It is a rare thing to have a precious memory from your childhood put on display for all to see and for that memory to be even better on reflection than it ever could have been the first time. THAT was what this did for me, especially hearing the words of the curator at the end... I cried.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Dracoa on November 23, 2013, 10:46:10 PM
It was fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. So many happy tears. And the opening title sequence? Love it.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: RiverVox on November 24, 2013, 08:52:46 AM
I have to admit I didn't enjoy most of the episode, only the bits with John Hurt (is he 8.5?). I will re-watch it.

I'm nervous that this means that Moffat, by wiping out the premise of the new series, (which is that the Doctor committed genocide and is alone in the universe), is clearing the deck for his own brand of Who. I don't trust him at all.

Also, does no one care that Clara has Cap't Jack's vortex manipulator? She just pops up in 1587 & they're only surprised she could open the door.  :-\
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: NikosGr on November 24, 2013, 11:39:32 AM
Also, does no one care that Clara has Cap't Jack's vortex manipulator? She just pops up in 1587 & they're only surprised she could open the door.  :-\
11 cared enough to send her the password. Either she or prof. Stewart would use it, since he carved it on the walls of her "future" office.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: imaginary friend on November 24, 2013, 02:48:38 PM
http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/the-day-of-the-doctor-is-record-breaking-56087.htm
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Pope Totalfrog on November 24, 2013, 03:58:55 PM
One of the best episodes I have seen in the thirty years I have been watching. For once Moffat actually delivered on the hype. I wouldn't have changed any of it.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: imaginary friend on November 30, 2013, 10:24:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/D_XI_290cfw
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: NikosGr on November 30, 2013, 04:08:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/D_XI_290cfw
One of the two Billie cd singles I have in my collection!

this is the other one by the way:
http://www.youtube.com/v/phnvR3El5fI
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: N.U. on December 26, 2013, 02:44:09 PM
Goodnight, Raggedy Man!

Dammit! Crying again.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: absynth aura on December 26, 2013, 09:36:17 PM
The majority of that episode was rather underwhelming...
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: NikosGr on December 27, 2013, 05:30:01 AM
The majority of that episode was rather underwhelming...
unfortunately I felt the same way! I hate how Moffat built up so much hype about Matt's performance and the episode in general. It really made me longing for more throughout the entire thing.
That said, it had some brilliant moments! Thank God the 50th an. episode was flawless (imo). Let's hope the writers get a well deserved rest, and come back with more brilliant ideas next year.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: N.U. on December 27, 2013, 02:29:49 PM
it's a transition episode. What were you expecting?
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: NikosGr on December 27, 2013, 05:49:51 PM
it's a transition episode. What were you expecting?
I feel like they should have make it longer, it felt too rushed! Also I feel that the old age thing and the cheap prosthetics, took away a lot from Matt's final performance. It felt like they only did it to prepare Clara for an older Doctor.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: N.U. on December 27, 2013, 05:58:58 PM
it's a transition episode. What were you expecting?
I feel like they should have make it longer, it felt too rushed! Also I feel that the old age thing and the cheap prosthetics, took away a lot from Matt's final performance. It felt like they only did it to prepare Clara for an older Doctor.

As someone who grew up watching the famous BBC low production value episodes starting with the 3rd Doctor, I didn't mind the prosthetics so much.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: absynth aura on December 27, 2013, 09:29:33 PM
it's a transition episode. What were you expecting?
I feel like they should have make it longer, it felt too rushed! Also I feel that the old age thing and the cheap prosthetics, took away a lot from Matt's final performance. It felt like they only did it to prepare Clara for an older Doctor.

As someone who grew up watching the famous BBC low production value episodes starting with the 3rd Doctor, I didn't mind the prosthetics so much.

I had no issue with the prosthetics, I just wasn't happy with the regeneration, it didn't feel as, I dunno, complete maybe as some of the older ones.
It took me a while to get over the whole Gallifrey/Trenzalore part as well
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: N.U. on December 27, 2013, 09:47:12 PM
They got the reboot right, though. Based upon what has already occurred, only the Council can restore generations to a Time Lord. This was established during the 4th Doctor's tenure.

I found this McGuffin to be acceptable.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: NikosGr on December 28, 2013, 04:05:28 AM
Don't get me wrong I love classic Who even more than the new series. I'm not in it for the fx. I wasn't bothered from the cheap prosthetics aesthetically. I felt that by hiding his face they stole half of his performance. Matt has such an amazing range of emotions expressed through his face that by aging him so much and hiding it I felt like I was watching a different actor. I wouldn't mind if they'd done it in a different episode, but this was his last.

I feel like the writers kinda felt the same way, that's why they let young Matt play the final scene instead of the aged one (giving a very convenient excuse for it).

As for the aging thing in general, we've seen it so many times now... Tennant was old with the Master, Rory waited 2000 years so did Amy and now 11 again. After a while given that time is so relative, you stop feeling the importance of having to wait all these years waiting for your salvation (that might never come)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: imaginary friend on January 27, 2014, 03:22:50 PM
the new doc's outfit:

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_ku-xlarge/19duymohncz5pjpg.jpg)

goddamn, i want that coat.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: absynth aura on January 27, 2014, 11:22:29 PM
He almost looks like the ringmaster at a circus, all that's missing is the hat!
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: Terina on January 31, 2014, 01:33:02 PM
I like it very much, although I expected something more colourful! Still it's pretty nice, and I like the 1st doctor tone.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: N.U. on February 15, 2014, 07:12:41 AM
I like it very much, although I expected something more colourful! Still it's pretty nice, and I like the 1st doctor tone.

he is, in essence the first doctor of the rebooted generations.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: NikosGr on February 16, 2014, 04:48:56 PM
I was talking to a friend about how he reminded me more of Pertwee and he showed me this
(http://doctorwhomindrobber.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/doctor-who-jon-pertwee-and-peter-capaldi.jpg)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: imaginary friend on August 24, 2014, 03:02:45 AM
judging from the (US) reviews so far, Capaldi IS the fuckin' Doctor. Totally owned the role.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: N.U. on August 24, 2014, 06:49:41 AM
FINALLY! An older appearing doctor. Enough of this Rhymey-wimey youth movement! Capaldi gives hints of Hartnell and Pertwee. Simply brilliant.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: lentower on December 27, 2014, 08:58:37 AM
Kat Robichaud's latest incredible music video is Doctor Who themed.

Be sure to listen & read.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uaayra0ODN4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uaayra0ODN4)

(Hmmm, can't seem to get embedding working right now.)
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: imaginary friend on January 22, 2016, 08:52:08 PM
STEVEN MOFFAT'S LEAVING.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: lentower on January 23, 2016, 09:50:57 AM
STEVEN MOFFAT'S LEAVING.

Dr Who will survive this too.
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: imaginary friend on April 23, 2016, 08:18:37 PM
http://io9.gizmodo.com/pearl-mackie-is-the-doctors-new-companion-1772638307
Title: Re: DOCTOR WHO and whatnot...
Post by: lentower on April 25, 2016, 05:12:48 AM
http://io9.gizmodo.com/pearl-mackie-is-the-doctors-new-companion-1772638307 (http://io9.gizmodo.com/pearl-mackie-is-the-doctors-new-companion-1772638307)

dr who will survive this too
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