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Title: hippies to blame for sexual abuse by priests?
Post by: imaginary friend on May 18, 2011, 10:37:59 PM
well, it certainly can't be their own fault - or the Church's, for that matter:   http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/18/us/18bishops.html?_r=3&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha2&pagewanted=all

 :violent5:

#@!
Title: Re: hippies to blame for sexual abuse by priests?
Post by: Agonistes on May 18, 2011, 10:49:54 PM
it's weird to me that the church even has to 'answer' to 'charges' such as this.  everybody knows forced celibacy leads to erratic behavior.  i've known the jokes all my life; it's not like anyone is surprised by all this, it's just that lately everyone thinks everyone should answer for things that have long been traditionally the same for centuries.
Title: Re: hippies to blame for sexual abuse by priests?
Post by: lentower on May 18, 2011, 11:31:28 PM
if you buy the Catholic's argument,
it is still their fault for letting in underqualified priests

and what about the sexual abuse in other countries?
Title: Re: hippies to blame for sexual abuse by priests?
Post by: cbkof on May 19, 2011, 02:24:42 AM
many years later i am still really pissed that neither the priests nor the hippies raped me, i mean WTF?, i was a really cute kid!!!

ah, just kidding
Title: Re: hippies to blame for sexual abuse by priests?
Post by: CeeGBee on May 19, 2011, 02:47:03 AM
it's weird to me that the church even has to 'answer' to 'charges' such as this.  everybody knows forced celibacy leads to erratic behavior.  i've known the jokes all my life; it's not like anyone is surprised by all this, it's just that lately everyone thinks everyone should answer for things that have long been traditionally the same for centuries.

There's a lot of research that supports the theory that many men with sexual desires that they don't
want to face go into the priesthood thinking enforced celibacy will protect them from themselves.
That said, even if it may be unfair to blame the Church for causing these desires, it certainly isn't
helping when it plays along with the just-pretend-they-don't-exist fantasy.  A little counseling or
therapy would probably do a lot of good... but then they'd have to admit to themselves that there's
a problem.
Title: Re: hippies to blame for sexual abuse by priests?
Post by: lentower on May 19, 2011, 06:40:53 AM
it's weird to me that the church even has to 'answer' to 'charges' such as this.  everybody knows forced celibacy leads to erratic behavior.  i've known the jokes all my life; it's not like anyone is surprised by all this, it's just that lately everyone thinks everyone should answer for things that have long been traditionally the same for centuries.

voluntary celibracy works for many people.
the Catholics' problem comes from not finding out
who is up to it and who isn't.

granted the problem wouldn't exist,
if they hadn't evolved this 'quaint' custom
of requiring priests to be celibate,
but humans can believe the oddest things
Title: Re: hippies to blame for sexual abuse by priests?
Post by: Agonistes on May 19, 2011, 09:26:55 AM
it's weird to me that the church even has to 'answer' to 'charges' such as this.  everybody knows forced celibacy leads to erratic behavior.  i've known the jokes all my life; it's not like anyone is surprised by all this, it's just that lately everyone thinks everyone should answer for things that have long been traditionally the same for centuries.

There's a lot of research that supports the theory that many men with sexual desires that they don't
want to face go into the priesthood thinking enforced celibacy will protect them from themselves.
That said, even if it may be unfair to blame the Church for causing these desires, it certainly isn't
helping when it plays along with the just-pretend-they-don't-exist fantasy.  A little counseling or
therapy would probably do a lot of good... but then they'd have to admit to themselves that there's
a problem.

clearly it wasn't a problem for the several centuries it went on.  it's only just now a problem in the 'caught on tape' age.  besides, you never see anyone complaining that convents and monasteries and seminaries are hotbeds of homosex....
Title: Re: hippies to blame for sexual abuse by priests?
Post by: CeeGBee on May 19, 2011, 01:28:44 PM
it's weird to me that the church even has to 'answer' to 'charges' such as this.  everybody knows forced celibacy leads to erratic behavior.  i've known the jokes all my life; it's not like anyone is surprised by all this, it's just that lately everyone thinks everyone should answer for things that have long been traditionally the same for centuries.

There's a lot of research that supports the theory that many men with sexual desires that they don't
want to face go into the priesthood thinking enforced celibacy will protect them from themselves.
That said, even if it may be unfair to blame the Church for causing these desires, it certainly isn't
helping when it plays along with the just-pretend-they-don't-exist fantasy.  A little counseling or
therapy would probably do a lot of good... but then they'd have to admit to themselves that there's
a problem.

clearly it wasn't a problem for the several centuries it went on.  it's only just now a problem in the 'caught on tape' age.  besides, you never see anyone complaining that convents and monasteries and seminaries are hotbeds of homosex....
Oh it was a problem then too, but the Church was too busy disposing of newborns
in convent cellars to address the matter.  Cuz ya know, when those sinful women
sin, it's a much more serious sin than when poor flawed men sin (especially since
the men were probably driven to sin BY women...)
Title: Re: hippies to blame for sexual abuse by priests?
Post by: Cheddars Cousin on May 20, 2011, 09:42:57 AM
Probably?
Title: Re: hippies to blame for sexual abuse by priests?
Post by: CeeGBee on May 20, 2011, 12:06:21 PM
Probably?
Well, at least some of these men have/had homosexual tendencies.....
Title: Re: hippies to blame for sexual abuse by priests?
Post by: Tiervexx on May 21, 2011, 06:04:19 PM
it's weird to me that the church even has to 'answer' to 'charges' such as this.  everybody knows forced celibacy leads to erratic behavior.  i've known the jokes all my life; it's not like anyone is surprised by all this, it's just that lately everyone thinks everyone should answer for things that have long been traditionally the same for centuries.

voluntary celibracy works for many people.
the Catholics' problem comes from not finding out
who is up to it and who isn't.

granted the problem wouldn't exist,
if they hadn't evolved this 'quaint' custom
of requiring priests to be celibate,
but humans can believe the oddest things

If your parts are fully functional the only way to obtain from sex and keep your sanity is to masturbate.  I don't think they do that.
Title: Re: hippies to blame for sexual abuse by priests?
Post by: Tor_Hershman on May 15, 2013, 11:18:51 AM
Hippies are to blame for everything, e.g.,
1776: "The Hippies are coming"
1850: "The only good Hippie is a dead Hippie"
1918: "...and we won't be back till there ain't no Hippies over there"
1941: "...a date that will live in Hippieness forever"

Here's a song with priests & choirboys
 :coolsmiley: http://www.soundlift.com/band/music.php?song_id=82930 (http://www.soundlift.com/band/music.php?song_id=82930)  :'(

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