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« on: December 25, 2009, 03:52:43 PM »

Why no thread yet??????

I went with one of my friends who does a lot of 3D work and saw it again this time on a bigger screen (for 6 bucks in 3D which was nice) and the level of detail is just crazy. I actually didn't remember it being so detailed, the faces while not human had amazing skin texture with blemishes etc. and when the tears rolling down the face/how the dissipated. One nice trick they did was using cat eyes since we notice quickly if the eye isn't right since even in the best renders they still look pretty glassy. Using this different type it wasn't as big of an issue and looks like they are improving.

Then there was the environment, the mist alone was shocking in how realistic it looked. All the texturing is a step above most things I have seen then there are all the particle effects with tons of different ones going on in one scene plus smoke, I am scared to see the render farm/time this required. Once these types of effects become mainstream it will be crazy.

But the downside and the reason I got out of 3D is if you were designing this you did a tiny tiny part, just like designing a modern car this sort of thing requires a whole team just for specific effects. When I started it wasn't this crazy yet and would create models and or animations in mountain dew fueled nights....that sort of thing just doesn't cut it anymore, I like being able to take a photo and have a finished product in a few hours.

As a comparison they have Star Wars Episode 2 on and the 3D worlds look like a joke, they are modeled decently but pretty featureless, and no where near the amount of particle effects.

Hell the ones in Avatar make Wall-E look simple, 3D orgasm happens teeheeeheeeheee!
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2009, 05:54:31 PM »

I saw it. I want to write a blog comparing the message with Pan's Labyrinth (not a bad movie at all, mind you) but I'm feeling bummed because someone on my livejournal list thinks the plot is crap and that it looks like Delgo, which is entirely untrue D:

I recommend this movie, definitely. I even dressed up my Subeta human avatar (virtual dress up doll to you) as a blue-skinned alien.
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2009, 05:55:11 PM »

If they ever make a movie out of the video game series Metroid, I want it to look like avatar if not better
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2009, 07:39:26 PM »

Also, Blue Lips by Regina Spektor has some apt language regarding the themes of Avatar, doesn't it?
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2009, 04:11:32 AM »

i saw it with my nan, it was a bit lengthy, but i loved it! :D
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2009, 02:02:27 PM »

I saw it about a week ago, and at the end, everyone cheered. I've never been to a movie where everyone broke out into applause at the end, but then again Avatar is a fairly epic piece of work.

Overall, I thought it was good. It was lengthy but the story was solid and the characters were interesting.
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2009, 02:14:59 PM »

I haven’t seen it.

I’ve never been fond of films where both cgi and human characters are used.

Having said that, I might watch it if someone can convince me that the story is something special.
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2009, 02:29:18 PM »

A lot of people have compared it to Dances With Wolves, but I guess that depends on how much you read into it.

I mean, it's a good story. It's a guy that decides to do what's right and save the "enemy" instead of doing what the "good guys" want, more or less. But I wouldn't say there's anything vastly unique about it.
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2009, 06:00:18 PM »

A lot of people have compared it to Dances With Wolves, but I guess that depends on how much you read into it.

I mean, it's a good story. It's a guy that decides to do what's right and save the "enemy" instead of doing what the "good guys" want, more or less. But I wouldn't say there's anything vastly unique about it.
I think it would be closer to say: What if the enemy are the good guys?   :-\  Hmmm... moral dilemma.
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2009, 06:50:06 PM »

It's actually closest to FernGully, in my opinion.  angel
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2009, 06:55:12 PM »

Yeah, it was bloody brilliant. I didn't see it in 3D, but it still blew my mind.
I wasn't 100% satisfied with some elements of the storyline, but everything else blew me away. Definitely one of my all-time fav movies.

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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2009, 06:43:48 PM »

I haven’t seen it.

I’ve never been fond of films where both cgi and human characters are used.

Having said that, I might watch it if someone can convince me that the story is something special.


This is not Jar Jar Binks, go see it O0

Seriously the level of detail on the faces plus the fact that the facial movements are mostly motion capture not animated really take a lot of that 3D character stereotype out of it.
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2009, 06:56:18 PM »

I'm torn.

I really don't want to see it.

But I feel like I should. As a nerd and avid nerdy-movie-watcher.

Last time I had this feeling, it was about district 9. So, this is why I'm very very very very skeptical about Avatar.
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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2009, 07:09:15 PM »

I'm torn.

I really don't want to see it.

But I feel like I should. As a nerd and avid nerdy-movie-watcher.

Last time I had this feeling, it was about district 9. So, this is why I'm very very very very skeptical about Avatar.

The studio should start writing me commission checks  ;D

But District 9 was an alright movie, I have seen a lot worse this year and for 5 bucks (Tuesdays in Lowell) it was worth it.  Would I watch it again?  Yes on HBO etc. but it is not a major movie in my opinion.

Avatar I have seen twice and would again if anyone else asked me to go, the 3D world just looks amazing.  I don't see movies multiple times and there is just so much in the world and all the technical aspects.  This movie will drive me to get a blue ray player which I have been putting off.
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2010, 01:18:57 PM »

Thanks to everyone who mentioned plot comparisons

I haven’t seen it.

I’ve never been fond of films where both cgi and human characters are used.

Having said that, I might watch it if someone can convince me that the story is something special.


This is not Jar Jar Binks, go see it O0

Seriously the level of detail on the faces plus the fact that the facial movements are mostly motion capture not animated really take a lot of that 3D character stereotype out of it.

I suppose the detail could win me over but I've seen footage and it has the combination problem that bothers me. i.e. CGI and human elements. CGI on it's own doesn't bother me (or even if it's used discretely in a production) but the subtle differences between the psychics of CGI and the real world have a kind of jarring quality that messes with my suspension of disbelief.
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