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[Morpheus Laughing]

"This recent year has been far colder than climate models predicted so obviously there is a problem with their method.  This fact does not totally refute the theory but does prove that their current model is not complete."

This is the Len part of the post... where could I read about that?

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/april2008/040408_cools_off.htm

This page gives sources and you can find plenty of other sources on searches about it being relatively cold this year. I just picked one.

Thanks. I've had a look at this and I've included a link that provides an explanation. Here is part of it: 

"There are any number of factors that cause global temperatures to rise and fall. Solar activity is one –- as the sun goes through its 11-year sunspot cycle, solar radiation goes up and down causing global temperatures to fluctuate up and down. El Nino and La Nina oscillations in the South Pacific Ocean also lead to relatively warm years (El Nino) and cool years (La Nina)."

http://www.nicholas.duke.edu/thegreengrok/globalwarmingsince1998

I do not dispute that global warming happens and that human actions contribute to it but I'm not nearly convinced that we already shot ourselves in the foot that badly.

My point was that cooler years are already reasonably well accounted for. I did not mean to suggest anything different about your viewpoint beyond that.

If it takes another 50 years for "greener" energy sources to take over the planet will be a little warmer but life will go on.  It's nothing the planet has not already gone through.

Life does go on, but what kind of life? 50 years is enough time (by most estimates)to cause changes that will bring about at least some scarcity and probably quite a bit of migration. Both of these are factors that are known to bring about social tensions. The world goes through all kinds of changes that would not fair us well.

[Rob]

The director of the embattled Climatic Research Unit in the United Kingdom is stepping down pending an investigation into allegations that he overstated the case for man-made climate change.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,578486,00.html

[lentower]

this article explains why the northern hemisphere is having colder winters,
because of global warming
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/opinion/26cohen.html

[N.U.]

GDI! Global Warming is a farce. The phrase. In this case, words have power and "Global Warming", while a nice buzzphrase, is so incorrect as to be completely unrepresentative of the actual issue. Global Climate Change is much more accurate. Weather will become more volatile. More volatile as in "Hot weather is more hot and cold weather is more cold." More volatile as in "Gosh that storm seemed more intense than storms in the past."

More volatile, not just warmer.

[CeeGBee]

GDI! Global Warming is a farce. The phrase. In this case, words have power and "Global Warming", while a nice buzzphrase, is so incorrect as to be completely unrepresentative of the actual issue. Global Climate Change is much more accurate. Weather will become more volatile. More volatile as in "Hot weather is more hot and cold weather is more cold." More volatile as in "Gosh that storm seemed more intense than storms in the past."

More volatile, not just warmer.

....or if you live, say, here...  where Winters are plenty cold enough, but there's rarely any
atmospheric moisture, it'll be a shade warmer, but really snowy....

[Morpheus Laughing]

Just thought I'd post this here. 

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2010/11/03/chatbot-debates-climate-change-deniers-on-twitter-so-you-don’t-have-to/