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[Darkness]

Any good song only needs 3 chords.

And that's my entire argument, right there. The idea of a 'good song' has now become so simplified the real possibilities of music have become somewhat lost.

[armyoflarry]

I don't think the 4 chord syndrome really has anything to do with the decline of pop music. I think the problem really lies with the over-production, lack of soul and the attention being focused on the look of people instead of the sound of the music they make.

I foung THIS ARTICLE most informative.... 
(Listen to the audio, it's only about 8 minutes.)

Oh yes, i know all about this one. I have gotten on many a soapbox, and cited this very link. What I am saying here is not even taking that travesty into account. Hell, a bad mastering job is not going to make a crappy pop song any worse!

[Indja]

I don't bother with pop, personally - I mean as a concept. As a genre, obviously you can't get away from it, but it seems we're talking more about the concept of pop music rather than just-

My dad's laptop just crashed out Biffy Clyro at full volume - I fucking love my dad. I just needed to share that in the instance that it happened. Now back to pop xD

- a type of music. I mean, people like the Beatles and the Beach Boys and stuff are superpop genre-wise, but they're obviously not what we're talking about here. When it comes to that concept, the problem is that music has become an industry and a business rather than an art; it's like the lovely Old Man Muffin Jar said, the focus has shifted.

Though, being a music tech student, I'd say there's nothing wrong with heaps and heaps of production xD

[imaginary friend]

Any good song only needs 3 chords.

And that's my entire argument, right there. The idea of a 'good song' has now become so simplified the real possibilities of music have become somewhat lost.

Now? go listen to some old blues or folk recordings from the 1920s.

#@!

[armyoflarry]

Any good song only needs 3 chords.

And that's my entire argument, right there. The idea of a 'good song' has now become so simplified the real possibilities of music have become somewhat lost.

Now? go listen to some old blues or folk recordings from the 1920s.

#@!

I don't care if it is prog rock with tons of time and key changes, or a 2 chord wonder. The only thing that matters is that the people delivering the music it do it with feeling and style.

I have heard people say prog is soulless, and it sure CAN be. But listen to Magma and Banco and there is plenty of soul in that complex music.

I have heard some classical musicians and prog fans declare Punk and Rap music to be anti-music. I call bullshit on that too. They are missing the point.

Pop sure can be pointless and soulless most of the time, but then every once in a while folks like Peter Gabriel come along and make artful pop music.

Formula, posing and faking is the anti-rock to me. Long live rock.

[Darkness]

Yes, no doubt. But the greater the variety within a song, the more opportunity the artist gives themselves to communicate feeling. Repetition is a natural enemy to music in some cases.

[$ethie]

Any good song only needs 3 chords.

And that's my entire argument, right there. The idea of a 'good song' has now become so simplified the real possibilities of music have become somewhat lost.

Now? go listen to some old blues or folk recordings from the 1920s.

#@!

I don't care if it is prog rock with tons of time and key changes, or a 2 chord wonder. The only thing that matters is that the people delivering the music it do it with feeling and style.

I have heard people say prog is soulless, and it sure CAN be. But listen to Magma and Banco and there is plenty of soul in that complex music.

I have heard some classical musicians and prog fans declare Punk and Rap music to be anti-music. I call bullshit on that too. They are missing the point.

Pop sure can be pointless and soulless most of the time, but then every once in a while folks like Lady GaGa come along and make artful pop music.

Formula, posing and faking is the anti-rock to me. Long live GaGa.

[Johnny]

for the first time..ever really, I've started to like pop music.
mostly gaga.
well, exclusively gaga.

[tw2113]

I like select songs and sometimes pop bands from other countries

[$ethie]

for the first time..ever really, I've started to like pop music.
mostly gaga.
well, exclusively gaga.

Once you like gaga, it's only a small step to Ke$ha.

[Darkness]

for the first time..ever really, I've started to like pop music.
mostly gaga.
well, exclusively gaga.

Once you like gaga, it's only a small step to Ke$ha.

And then the damage is truly irreversible.

[Pope Totalfrog]

for the first time..ever really, I've started to like pop music.
mostly gaga.
well, exclusively gaga.

Once you like gaga, it's only a small step to Ke$ha.

Lady Gaga is a gateway drug.

[Darkness]

for the first time..ever really, I've started to like pop music.
mostly gaga.
well, exclusively gaga.

Once you like gaga, it's only a small step to Ke$ha.

Lady Gaga is a gateway drug.

Truer words have never been spoken.

[MerelyMarquis]

Marina & the Diamonds (it's just her) is definitely a pop musician but she's very precise about her music and how she works with producers. I usually prefer lyrics to music because I don't have a tuned ear, and Marina's lyrics range from critiques of the music industry, and social commentaries to more personal songs. For me, she's really given pop a lot more credibility in that it can mean something.

[Darkness]

Marina & the Diamonds (it's just her) is definitely a pop musician but she's very precise about her music and how she works with producers. I usually prefer lyrics to music because I don't have a tuned ear, and Marina's lyrics range from critiques of the music industry, and social commentaries to more personal songs. For me, she's really given pop a lot more credibility in that it can mean something.

I admire people like this, that try and bring credibility and originality to the industry. It makes it even sadder when the majority of the pop industry disregard people like this and the household names are usually those four-chord artists.

Sometimes I wish I could jam with Beethoven.