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« on: February 15, 2010, 10:01:11 AM »

Is anyone else interested in this? please? no one else shares this with me.

this is part of my tree (a very small part):



i've been focused on my dad's side mostly recently because it's easier.
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Re: Genealogy & Family History
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 02:01:55 PM »

Sorry, you have to look at all of 'em, not just the exciting and/or easy-to-track...

Besides, you never know when something really cool will turn up.
Still, you've made a really good start there.  Do you have more information on all
those people, or just names/dates? 

Is Costa a really common name?  I notice it shows up in three different places
four generations back... (or did everyone marry thier cousins?)
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 02:29:53 PM »

heh, i know. i've been working on it for 2 and a half years now. i've got, i think, about 3000 names in the tree. i would say about 2000, though, are not quite my own work; i got lucky early on and found someone else's research who i shared an ancestor with.

and i have tonnss of information on the people.

this is the profile page for one of them:



about the surname Costa:
Both of my paternal grandparents' grandparents all came from the same island, Sao Miguel, in the Azores. I don't know how common the different names are, but I know that the first names are even less diverse; every single one of my grandmothers is named some form of Maria. My grandpa had 7 aunts named Maria on his mom's side.

about researching everything:

since my dad's side is all from one location, it's easier for me to focus on this first. I also found a great group researching the same area which is nice. I've gotten really far on my mom's side, too, but it's frustrating for a number of reason.
1, they come from multiple countries.
2, i have less living relatives on that side.
3, my mom's mother was abandoned by her mother, who was a whore, apparently. there's no father on her birth certificate (which i had to go to great lengths to acquire) and i found out that she had four other children my nana never knew about, all by nameless men. as for her mother, there is no trace of her after 1930, and I have no idea where she went.
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Re: Genealogy & Family History
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 02:49:10 PM »

Maternal lines are always harder, just because paternal lines (in European tradition) generally
keep the family name.... and that's before one gets into situations like your ggm's.

...but 3000 names?  I have a number of friends who would be very jealous.

In my own family, someone tracked my mother's father's family back to the German immigrant
who came to the US in the early 18th Century, and printed up a spiral-bound copy of the list
for each branch of the family.  The rest of the family is far less researched; I have my parents,
obviously, and their parents, and their parents, but after that the list gets a little spotty....

I can tell you which of my however-many-great grandfathers served in our Civil War (this might
as well be required by law in the southern US), and what states they lived in.  I can tell you my
ancestors came from Scotland, Ireland (probably, but that bunch may have been from western
Scotland as well), Germany and France, oh the shame...
There's a story on my father's side that one of his ancestors was Cherokee; this is quite possibly
a fabrication, but no one's researched it to prove one way or the other.
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Re: Genealogy & Family History
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 04:56:43 PM »

being adopted, i have no idea where to even start looking for history.....
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Re: Genealogy & Family History
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 05:37:45 PM »

being adopted, i have no idea where to even start looking for history.....
At the risk of stating the obvious: your adoption records.  In many states (dunno about AL
specifically) the regulations slant waaaaay toward "mother's privacy", which can make for
a real headache getting past that first hurdle, but it's generally not-impossible.

There are myriad "support groups" and online research-helpers...  Some are useful, some are
useless, and some are just scammers trying to get you to pay for "research services"...
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Re: Genealogy & Family History
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 05:51:26 PM »

My aunt has covered my Dads side of the family but I’ve never seen any of it. One line supposedly goes back to one of the Old Irish monarchs.
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Re: Genealogy & Family History
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2010, 06:24:18 PM »

My aunt has covered my Dads side of the family but I’ve never seen any of it. One line supposedly goes back to one of the Old Irish monarchs.

Ooh which one? I hope it was Medb, she was badass.
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Re: Genealogy & Family History
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2010, 06:42:34 PM »

My aunt has covered my Dads side of the family but I’ve never seen any of it. One line supposedly goes back to one of the Old Irish monarchs.

Ooh which one? I hope it was Medb, she was badass.

I must confess that I don't actually know. I've asked my Dad about this a few times but he can never remember the details. I'll make sure he asks and writes it down next time he speaks to her (or possibly the other uncle who knows).
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Re: Genealogy & Family History
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2010, 06:53:10 PM »

Our family tree consists of three recipe boxes, where index cards list the names of mostly French, some English, and few German people. My grandmother did do up an album with some of them, including the last entry, a toddler named "Mallie". Which is me, supposedly.


She's actually on a family tree kick right now, paying lots of money to a website that says we're related to a bunch of famous people.

On my fathers side is an extensive Irish-Farm line that goes back to many "happy" evil looking nine-kids-and-counting families in black and white peeling photos which I love.

So, yeah. Eventually I'd like to put it all together in neat albums. But I wont do it online. I'm old-fashioned like that.


The only famousish one I'm sure of is that most of my mothers side came on the boat that was right after the Mayflower. I bragged about that in fifth grade.
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Re: Genealogy & Family History
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2010, 08:40:30 PM »

being adopted, i have no idea where to even start looking for history.....
At the risk of stating the obvious: your adoption records.  In many states (dunno about AL
specifically) the regulations slant waaaaay toward "mother's privacy", which can make for
a real headache getting past that first hurdle, but it's generally not-impossible.

There are myriad "support groups" and online research-helpers...  Some are useful, some are
useless, and some are just scammers trying to get you to pay for "research services"...
been there; done that; i'm on a couple of search lists and i even have my own 'search angel.'  i know my birth mother's name and my original name and so on; it is a matter of finding a person, right now.  my state is louisiana, however, which is considered one of the 'difficult' ones, so my forged birth certificate is the only one i am allowed to see.  alabama actually has unsealed the records, probably ten years ago, but i wasnt adopted here.
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Re: Genealogy & Family History
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2010, 08:45:20 PM »

i've tried this so many times, but it's never been able to find any of my family.
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Re: Genealogy & Family History
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2010, 11:46:54 PM »

i've tried this so many times, but it's never been able to find any of my family.

what do you mean by it? you aren't likely to find any distant cousins until you get a few generations back. i got lucky once or twice but most of the work has to be done in person, talking to family and going to archives.
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Re: Genealogy & Family History
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2010, 11:53:01 PM »

i've tried this so many times, but it's never been able to find any of my family.

what do you mean by it? you aren't likely to find any distant cousins until you get a few generations back. i got lucky once or twice but most of the work has to be done in person, talking to family and going to archives.

damn, i thought it had a database from censuses and shit like that.
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2010, 11:57:31 PM »

i've tried this so many times, but it's never been able to find any of my family.

what do you mean by it? you aren't likely to find any distant cousins until you get a few generations back. i got lucky once or twice but most of the work has to be done in person, talking to family and going to archives.

damn, i thought it had a database from censuses and shit like that.

It does, but it's not perfect. Like I said, you do sometimes get lucky. But some families just don't come up on the census. I've found most of my ancestors who are supposed to be on censuses on their censuses, but some have been hard to find and some haven't been on there.
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2010, 01:12:33 AM »

being adopted, i have no idea where to even start looking for history.....
At the risk of stating the obvious: your adoption records.  In many states (dunno about AL
specifically) the regulations slant waaaaay toward "mother's privacy", which can make for
a real headache getting past that first hurdle, but it's generally not-impossible.

There are myriad "support groups" and online research-helpers...  Some are useful, some are
useless, and some are just scammers trying to get you to pay for "research services"...
been there; done that; i'm on a couple of search lists and i even have my own 'search angel.'  i know my birth mother's name and my original name and so on; it is a matter of finding a person, right now.  my state is louisiana, however, which is considered one of the 'difficult' ones, so my forged birth certificate is the only one i am allowed to see.  alabama actually has unsealed the records, probably ten years ago, but i wasnt adopted here.
Follow-up thought and amendment to my original answer:
All right, genetics is all interesting and wonderful, but upon consideration, aren't the people
who actually raised you, and the people who made them who they are (or were, whichever)
more relevant?

To heck with the sperm and egg donors, find out about your family.
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2010, 01:26:48 AM »

My grandparents on my Dad's side had our family tree done a couple of years ago. It was very interesting. It turned out that my Nan's father had 3 other wives and 7 children as well as her and her brother spread out between England, Ireland and Australia. It seems that when he got sick of one wife he would just move away and find a new one. We think he only stayed with my great grandmother because he was in his late 40's when they met and married and he got sick not too long after that.

My mum's family tree just has an awful lot of "father unknown" all over it. Makes it kind of hard to track relatives down when half the picture is missing - I can't imagine how hard it would be if you didn't have any of the picture.




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Re: Genealogy & Family History
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2010, 03:03:10 AM »

We're Irish.  All of us.  As far back as anybody cares to look (1600's, about).  That's about all we got.
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2010, 07:03:41 AM »

I'm Irish. lol obvs. But, it's quite hard to find family trees online for Irish families because I suspect no one has bothered to input data from censuses (censi??). So it's a real library job, but unfortunately the library in my town isn't very good.

I know back to great grandmothers on both sides. I've heard stories about one of my dad's gran-aunts being on the Titanic, my great grandfather being directly involved in the civil war and things like. There was also a scandal surrounding my grandfather's father where he left and fathered other children out of wedlock. In 1930s Catholic Ireland that was a huge deal.

Unfortunately I didn't get interested enough in this before my grandfathers, who know most of the stuff, passed away. So I don't really have anyone to ask.
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2010, 10:37:25 AM »

being adopted, i have no idea where to even start looking for history.....
At the risk of stating the obvious: your adoption records.  In many states (dunno about AL
specifically) the regulations slant waaaaay toward "mother's privacy", which can make for
a real headache getting past that first hurdle, but it's generally not-impossible.

There are myriad "support groups" and online research-helpers...  Some are useful, some are
useless, and some are just scammers trying to get you to pay for "research services"...
been there; done that; i'm on a couple of search lists and i even have my own 'search angel.'  i know my birth mother's name and my original name and so on; it is a matter of finding a person, right now.  my state is louisiana, however, which is considered one of the 'difficult' ones, so my forged birth certificate is the only one i am allowed to see.  alabama actually has unsealed the records, probably ten years ago, but i wasnt adopted here.
Follow-up thought and amendment to my original answer:
All right, genetics is all interesting and wonderful, but upon consideration, aren't the people
who actually raised you, and the people who made them who they are (or were, whichever)
more relevant?

To heck with the sperm and egg donors, find out about your family.
i already know about their genealogy; more than i could ever hope to, from many points of view, all the way back to the old countries and further.  also the family that adopted and raised me started hacking itself to pieces when i was about age eight.  i'd kind of like to know about the teenager who was forced by her own family to go to a 'home' and give up custody, or whatever, but that's pretty much the commonplace story from the particular adoption company i came from.

don't get me wrong, i am not an anti-adoption advocate (there are many and some of them are pretty rabid) but i'm also pretty committed to getting ahold of my actual kin, if possible.  plus, i just plain don't like being told, 'no.'  especially when it pertains to records with my name on them.
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« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2010, 11:16:19 AM »

My ancestors have moved to Turkey from Crimea 80-90 years ago. So they're Tataric. But i don't know if any other blood's ringing in my veins. Maybe some Russian but i don't think so, it seems that i'm totally Turkish.
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« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2010, 11:42:39 PM »

Awesome stuff. A friend of my dad's (who I later learned was actually a cousin; in big families you're always finding new cousins) compiled one of those for my father's side of the family. I found it really interesting, and tried to do the same for my mother's side, but then I found out that all paper records literally stop at my great-grandmother, who apparently left a gypsy clan in Hungary to marry my great-grandfather. They lived there for a few months, but her family was angry about the union, so they moved to Belgium and lived there for a few years, had their first two children, then my great-grandfather came to Pennsylvania and made illegal moonshine to make enough money to bring the rest of the family over, and a year or two after that my grandmother was born.

Long story short, the most that I've gathered is that my ancestors were apparently homicidal gypsies, and built their life in this country on illegal alcohol and crime.

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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2010, 12:34:26 AM »


Long story short, the most that I've gathered is that my ancestors were apparently free spirits, unfettered by outside desires and expectations...

...and built their life in this country on free enterprise.

It's the American Dream!
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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2010, 03:22:38 AM »

I'm a Mexican. That's all.
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« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2010, 03:37:46 AM »

Paternally: I found out my great grandpa was a preacher in Maine. Odd. My name "Morrill" has been in America since it came here from either England or Ireland in the 1600's.(depends on the branch)

I;m also related to this civil war general: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gouverneur_K._Warren

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