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Re: pictures of random s#!t
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2010, 01:12:22 PM »

....I'm confused as to where you're confused.

There are three parties. To have a majority, and thus have your party leader be PM, you need to have over a certain number of seats (I want to say 320-something....?) in Parliament. Those seats are filled by the MPs voted for in each constituency - if you and I lived in the same area, we could both run, and more people would vote for me so I'd toddle off to Parliament and you'd stay at home crying because you're lonely and alone and a loser all alone. If more Lib Dems toddle off than Tories, then Cleggy will be PM. Unfortunately, because the Lib Dems aren't currently very strongly represented in Parliament - they don't have as many seats - they have to work so so so much harder to get into power. The Tories and Labour can essentially rely on people just voting for what they know, whereas the Lib Dems have to win over constituency after constituency.

ALSO. I think there's some bitchy bastard thing that I don't understand about it being first-past-the-post politics rather than really representing who the majority of voters chose. But like I said, I don't understand that... Mostly I just get angry about it on Cleggy's behalf and assume no-one else gets it either xD
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Re: pictures of random s#!t
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2010, 06:27:59 PM »

...got that, but when the party of candidate-X (to avoid naming names among the three)
secures a clear majority, candidates -Y and -Z still have normal everyday seats in Commons,
right? (Assuming, again, that they manage to avoid losing their own district elections.)

Would I be safe in assuming that, in a case where none has an outright majority, the one
whose party holds the plurality of seats still becomes PM, but must assemble a coalition?
(Parliamentary government is interesting, but a little different everywhere it's practised,
so I'm never certain what's happening...)

Oh, and since you're underage and I'm not a UK citizen, can we just have a pint at the
pub and laugh at the stupid politicians, instead of running for an office that's a real chore
anyway?  I really think that's a better plan.
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Re: pictures of random s#!t
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2010, 10:28:13 PM »

I think there's some bitchy bastard thing that I don't understand about it being first-past-the-post politics rather than really representing who the majority of voters chose. But like I said, I don't understand that... Mostly I just get angry about it on Cleggy's behalf and assume no-one else gets it either xD

It's called proportional representation.
It's where you have multiple seats in a constituency, and the votes are cast and counted so they accurately reflect who people actually want elected.

Say there's three seats to fill in the contituency of Narnia, and Amanda Palmer is running for the Socialist Party, Betty White is running for Labour, Joan Rivers is running for Fine Gael, and the "?" Block from Mario is running for the Green Party.

The ballot cards have all four candidates with large boxes beside them. The voter puts a "1" in the box of their favorite candidate, then a "2" in their second favorite, and so on. The voter can number as many candidates as they wish, or only one.

Then, the votes are counted as so:
The candidate with the most first preference votes get the first seat, in this case, The "?" Block
Then, you count all the "1" votes again, except for voters with The "?" Block as "1", who's "2" votes are now counted. Amanda Palmer has the most votes from this count, and she gets seat number two.

(Betty White gets seat number three)

First Count
[/b]

Graham's Card
  • 1. "?" Block
  • 2. Amanda Palmer
  • 3. Betty White

Indja's Card
  • 1. Amanda Palmer
  • 2. "?" Block
  • 3. Betty White

Nick Clegg's Card
  • 1. "?" Block
  • 2. Amanda Palmer
  • 3. Joan Rivers

"?" Block has the most "1" votes, and wins his seat.

Second Count
[/b]

Graham's Card
  • "?" Block
  • 1. Amanda Palmer
  • 2. Betty White

Indja's Card
  • 1. Amanda Palmer
  • "?" Block
  • 2. Betty White

Nick Clegg's Card
  • "?" Block
  • 1. Amanda Palmer
  • 2. Joan Rivers

Amanda Palmer has the most "1" votes and wins her seat.

Third Count
[/b]

Graham's Card
  • "?" Block
  • Amanda Palmer
  • 1. Betty White

Indja's Card
  • Amanda Palmer
  • "?" Block
  • 1. Betty White

Nick Clegg's Card
  • "?" Block
  • Amanda Palmer
  • 1. Joan Rivers

Betty White has the most "1" votes, and all the Narnia seats are filled.
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Re: pictures of random s#!t
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2010, 01:17:33 PM »

...got that, but when the party of candidate-X (to avoid naming names among the three)
secures a clear majority, candidates -Y and -Z still have normal everyday seats in Commons,
right? (Assuming, again, that they manage to avoid losing their own district elections.)

Would I be safe in assuming that, in a case where none has an outright majority, the one
whose party holds the plurality of seats still becomes PM, but must assemble a coalition?
(Parliamentary government is interesting, but a little different everywhere it's practised,
so I'm never certain what's happening...)

Oh, and since you're underage and I'm not a UK citizen, can we just have a pint at the
pub and laugh at the stupid politicians, instead of running for an office that's a real chore
anyway?  I really think that's a better plan.

Yes, they have normal seats in Parliament even if they don't have a majority. To be PM I think you not only have to be an MP but an MP in power of your constituency, so you have to have a seat in the first place before you can run.

If there's no out-right majority, the current PM will stay in power and the parties with less votes can either jump into bed with the big guns and thus give that party the majority, or form a coalition with one or more of the smaller parties so that they form a proper opposition and can make it hard for the majority to push laws through.

As for me being underage, only by two months, and I've still been a tax-paying member of this damn society for nearly two years and should therefore be more than a little interested in who decides what to do with my fucking money.

Who's Betty White?
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Re: pictures of random s#!t
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2010, 11:28:35 AM »

Betty White:
Prolific American actress (mostly TV comedies).  See Wiki.
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Re: pictures of random s#!t
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2010, 01:22:05 PM »

Oh, ok.

It's looking alarmingly like there's going to be a big Tory surge and they'll get a majority, if only by 2 seats. I am not best pleased. So unbestpleased, in fact, that I made some propaganda posters to further the cause. I'm also hoping they'll count as pictures of random s#!t, because I feel bad about the epic derailing...





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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2010, 02:01:23 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2010, 08:00:08 PM »

^^Indja, fucking marry me! xD

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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2010, 08:56:54 PM »

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Re: pictures of random s#!t
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2010, 01:41:31 PM »

Cleggy is THE LEADER of the GREATEST PARTAY EVAR.

lol

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And Graham, I fear I may be somewhat unfulfilled in that marriage.... o.O

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Re: pictures of random s#!t
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2010, 06:59:30 PM »

Our heated debates about whether Nick Clegg is a more handsome man than Caroline Lucas would become increasingly fiery, until our political passion metamorphoses turns into sexual passion, and we have an intense affair and run off to Singapore together to run a sweet shop that also sells fine teas.
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« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2010, 11:47:58 AM »

I'm down with that.
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« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2010, 04:24:22 PM »

I'll pack the Jasmine.
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Re: pictures of random s#!t
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2010, 09:23:13 PM »



Len?  >:D
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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2010, 09:41:24 PM »

^ Len's cousin Glen...
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