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BLOG: the WHOLE story behind "Evelyn Evelyn"
« on: February 15, 2010, 11:18:15 PM »

about the sisters, the album, the tour, and all things evelyn evelyn...
read it at
amandapalmer.net
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myspace


and if you wannna share a link with your friends on twitter and facebook and everywhere else (PLEASE DO), please use this one: http://bit.ly/EEblog
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Re: the WHOLE story behind "Evelyn Evelyn"
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 11:24:43 PM »

the child porn industry?!?! goodness golly gosh me oh my!

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Re: the WHOLE story behind "Evelyn Evelyn"
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2010, 12:04:11 AM »

When will Cambridge be up for sale??
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Re: the WHOLE story behind "Evelyn Evelyn"
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2010, 12:15:14 AM »

Apparently the Evelyns are offensive http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/02/09/evelyn-evelyn-ableism-ableism/

But don't bother commenting on this woman's blog if you feel differently because

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Special commenting note: First-time commenters, please read and abide by our comments policy. Kindly refrain from commenting if your argument consists of any of the following: “You just don’t get it,” “You do not understand art,” “You are taking this too seriously,” “Evelyn Evelyn is not real, therefore the stereotypes about disability examined here do not matter,”  “Justify your experience and/or disability to me, NOW,” “Why are you criticizing Amanda Palmer? She is brilliant; how dare you!” I am familiar with all of these arguments — please be aware that they will probably not add anything to the discussion because they are classic derailing tactics, and I will most likely decline to publish comments that utilize the above arguments.
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Re: the WHOLE story behind "Evelyn Evelyn"
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2010, 12:49:51 AM »

Apparently the Evelyns are offensive http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/02/09/evelyn-evelyn-ableism-ableism/

But don't bother commenting on this woman's blog if you feel differently because

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Special commenting note: First-time commenters, please read and abide by our comments policy. Kindly refrain from commenting if your argument consists of any of the following: “You just don’t get it,” “You do not understand art,” “You are taking this too seriously,” “Evelyn Evelyn is not real, therefore the stereotypes about disability examined here do not matter,”  “Justify your experience and/or disability to me, NOW,” “Why are you criticizing Amanda Palmer? She is brilliant; how dare you!” I am familiar with all of these arguments — please be aware that they will probably not add anything to the discussion because they are classic derailing tactics, and I will most likely decline to publish comments that utilize the above arguments.

wow. that really pissed me off. i did leave a comment though, but i made sure i only mentioned the "special commenting note" O0
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Re: the WHOLE story behind "Evelyn Evelyn"
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2010, 01:07:12 AM »

I just read that ladies blog and i can understand her comments policy, fanboys/girls can be annoying. She seems to be really passionate about her argument, and doesn't want a bunch of assinine responses like the ones she mentioned. But i think she is taking herself way to seriously. It's pretty obvious that Amanda and Jason aren't making fun of people with disabilities. She probably doesn't understand that it's a concept album and that the whole thing is almost presented as a musical. I think the whole thing is ingenious, and if anything the whole story seems to be about overcoming adversity. So I think that this lady and all of the people commenting on her blog should wait until the final product comes out, before referring to it as something ill willed. And if Evelyne Evelyne is offensive to disabled people, I wonder how she feels about Sean Penn in I am Sam?
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Re: the WHOLE story behind "Evelyn Evelyn"
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2010, 01:36:38 AM »

I just read that ladies blog and i can understand her comments policy, fanboys/girls can be annoying. She seems to be really passionate about her argument, and doesn't want a bunch of assinine responses like the ones she mentioned. But i think she is taking herself way to seriously. It's pretty obvious that Amanda and Jason aren't making fun of people with disabilities. She probably doesn't understand that it's a concept album and that the whole thing is almost presented as a musical. I think the whole thing is ingenious, and if anything the whole story seems to be about overcoming adversity. So I think that this lady and all of the people commenting on her blog should wait until the final product comes out, before referring to it as something ill willed. And if Evelyne Evelyne is offensive to disabled people, I wonder how she feels about Sean Penn in I am Sam?
...or the way John McCain exploited Sarah Palin's "special-ness" in a shameless play for votes...




...but yeah, I appreciate her point.  Unfortunately, she kinda undermines her own outrage
by pointing out that, well, you know, the obvious is obvious....  :idiot2:
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Re: the WHOLE story behind "Evelyn Evelyn"
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2010, 03:01:54 AM »

Well maybe she is also offended by those things.

I kind of get why someone would feel offended. And Amanda has to realize that there are also people who don't know it's a hoax because they don't read her blogs.

I do agree more with the comments on her blog from people saying that she's using stereotypes and that it's actually kind of mainstream-ish. I never liked EE to begin with, I mean it's an okay thing but not my cup of tea, but I have to say that this whole story is kind of too much for a lot of people.

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Re: the WHOLE story behind "Evelyn Evelyn"
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2010, 03:53:44 AM »

Was there not a major comedy film relatively recentluy about conjoined twins?
were Flora and Fauna not characters in the Addams Family?
yes there are real conjoined twins out there who do music.....just as the are real people of any variety.... Evelyn Evelyn may (or may not) be fantasy but they are fully realised individuals  with a history and a past as substantial as any I have ever dreamed
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Re: the WHOLE story behind "Evelyn Evelyn"
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 03:57:44 AM »

I think the most interesting thing here is the mention of Amanda's record label, which I hadn't heard of until now. I want to know more.
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Re: the WHOLE story behind "Evelyn Evelyn"
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2010, 03:59:27 AM »

8ft records was the original release label for the first album and some other stuff......I think my copy of Dresden Dolls is an 8ft copy...cant find it at the moment
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Re: the WHOLE story behind "Evelyn Evelyn"
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 06:11:01 AM »

It goes to show that anytime someone does something with fun and a little bit of silliness in mind, someone's going to get offended by some part of it. Some people just wait for moments where they can jump onto this kind of stuff. Obviously, there's no mean-spirited-ness going on here. It's just two great artists who enjoy working together, working on a project that isn't "normal" by "musicians working on a project together" standards. For someone that's been a Dolls/AFP fan for years now, a full CD of music done by Jason and Amanda is something we've been waiting a very long time to see happen. Personally, I can't wait to get my hands on it and to see them play live. As a sidenote too, for those that might be newer to all things Amanda, Sxip Shirey is fuckin' amazing! I remember him hosting/emceeing the Fall '06 Dolls tour and being completely blown away by his set. I can't wait to see him again! He's a super-cool guy too!
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2010, 06:17:00 AM »

i never even thought of evelyn evelyn as DISABLED.  :-\

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Re: the WHOLE story behind "Evelyn Evelyn"
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2010, 06:24:07 AM »

Ingenious is the right word... Nothing to do with Evelyn Evelyn but Amanda has just gotten the best publicity she's probably ever had other than the Golden Globes with her "guest"...

The whole Francis Bean Cobain thing blew up everywhere and now in order to hear about the pre-sale first you need to sign up with Amanda's mailing list! It's pure genius!!!

Plus the whole finding a way around a certain label that shares a name with Wile E. Coyote's archenemy but I won't go into that.
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2010, 06:27:57 AM »

the child porn industry?!?! goodness golly gosh me oh my!


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