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Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« on: May 25, 2010, 03:19:14 PM »

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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2010, 03:22:38 PM »

D'OH!

I'm going to see Hole soon.  If I could just touch Courtney Love, I might shit myself.
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2010, 03:47:15 PM »

D'OH!

I'm going to see Hole soon.  If I could just touch Courtney Love, I might shit myself.

amen. i'm going to see them too.
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2010, 03:56:05 PM »

If I could just touch Courtney Love, I might shit myself.
....If I touched Courtney Love, I'd definitely want to wash like I'd just shat myself...  and then some.
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2010, 05:41:02 PM »

If I could just touch Courtney Love, I might shit myself.
....If I touched Courtney Love, I'd definitely want to wash like I'd just shat myself...  and then some.

After an entire tub of Purell you would still be unclean.
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2010, 06:54:54 PM »

Jesus Christ, I didn't say I want to bathe in her vaginal discharge, I just want to shake her hand, for fuck's sake.
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2010, 07:39:02 PM »

I still don't understand anyone's enjoyment of Hole... sure Celebrity Skin was a catchy tune but it wasn't actually any good and what else is worth listening to? She should give the rights to Dave and Krist for free and they might then release some respectful and decent stuff from the archieves (I know this isn't actually going to happen).
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2010, 07:55:41 PM »

I still don't understand anyone's enjoyment of Hole... sure Celebrity Skin was a catchy tune but it wasn't actually any good and what else is worth listening too? She should give the rights to Dave and Krist for free and they might then release some respectful and decent stuff from the archieves (I know this isn't actually going to happen).


If she really thinks the money is cursed liked she says it is then she would just hand the rights over. Or at least offer them to the other two for a fraction of what they are actually worth. She never will.
 
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2010, 08:08:46 PM »

i personally thought hole was ten times the band nirvana ever was........but then i was never a kobain fan.  at all.
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2010, 08:14:54 PM »

I still don't understand anyone's enjoyment of Hole... sure Celebrity Skin was a catchy tune but it wasn't actually any good and what else is worth listening too?

how do you not understand it? people have different musical tastes.

i personally thought hole was ten times the band nirvana ever was........but then i was never a kobain fan.  at all.

i feel the same way. honestly, all of nirvana's songs sound the same to me. though, one good thing about them was dave grohl.
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2010, 08:52:26 PM »

Agreed with everything above.  I love Hole.  I didn't care for Celebrity Skin too much, and I probably won't like their new album, but I loved Live Through This and Pretty on the Inside.  I liked Nirvana when I was a kid.  I mean, like, 12, 13, 14.  Maybe they would've been a really great band if he wasn't a junkie, and I think Dave Grohl is extremely talented, but Nirvana is kind of. . .  meh.  Their songs pretty much sound the same to me, too.  Incesticide had a few good songs.
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2010, 08:56:15 PM »

Err. I'm a Nirvana fan, so I'm a bit twitchy over above text.
But I also like Hole.
It's Star Trek-Star Wars all over again.
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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2010, 09:02:32 PM »

It's Star Trek-Star Wars all over again.

laaaaaaaaaawl.  True story.

Can we all debate over the Beatles v the Stones, next?
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2010, 09:04:04 PM »

beatles!

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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2010, 02:01:36 AM »

beatles, star wars, and hole.
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2010, 06:00:22 AM »

I still don't understand anyone's enjoyment of Hole... sure Celebrity Skin was a catchy tune but it wasn't actually any good and what else is worth listening too?

how do you not understand it? people have different musical tastes.

I know they do... I was just expressing my own opinions... I am also not really a big Nivarna fan either,or Foo Fighters for that matter. It's just I don't understand anyone's love for Courtney either...
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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2010, 09:39:00 AM »

Frances has a trust fund regardless of what happens to the cataloge.  She needn't worry.

Nirvana Was one of the best bands ever, and Kurt was a genius.

The Stones will never be as good as he Beatles, no matter how long they actually live.

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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2010, 11:09:01 AM »

Jesus Christ, I didn't say I want to bathe in her vaginal discharge, I just want to shake her hand, for fuck's sake.

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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2010, 01:22:34 PM »

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Seconded.  But I do still love the Stones so very much.  The Beatles are making love, and the Rolling Stones are fucking.  I love 'em both.  The bands, that is.

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« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2010, 04:17:25 PM »

Liking Hole more than Nirvana is something I just can't even fathom, but that is opinion for ya!

As far as the whole Beatles/Stones thing goes, I overheard some kid in the music store say that The Beatles were the best band ever, but The Stones were the best ROCK band ever.

I could never choose between them.

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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2010, 04:21:03 PM »

Hi, Larry!

It's a hard choice, indeed.  But. . .  if the Stones are rock, wtf are the Beatles?  I'd call both of them rock bands.
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« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2010, 04:36:21 PM »

Hi, Larry!

It's a hard choice, indeed.  But. . .  if the Stones are rock, wtf are the Beatles?  I'd call both of them rock bands.

Well, I didn't say that. Though it feels right to say it. I think he wasn't trying to say The Beatles were not a rock band, he just thought they were a better band over-all, but the Stones are just pure rock without all the flowery production and pretension.
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« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2010, 04:39:33 PM »

I know you said the kid said that, but maybe he is of the persuasion that the beatles are pop, and the stones are rock.  because, ultimately, the beatles were pop music when they first started.  and the first, or one of the first, boy bands.
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« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2010, 10:35:51 PM »

I know you said the kid said that, but maybe he is of the persuasion that the beatles are pop, and the stones are rock.  because, ultimately, the beatles were pop music when they first started.  and the first, or one of the first, boy bands.

Yeah, though my impression is that the kid thought they both played rock music. As poppy as the fab 4 were, they cut their teeth and first started making waves with 50's Rock music. They just added more and more stuff to it. They were a rock band aspiring to grow. The Stones just wanted to fuck and drink and snort all in their path! They tried the flower power thing too, and fell flat on their face. Smartly they returned to making what I like to call the anal sex of rock n roll. LOL
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« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2010, 10:54:07 PM »

Frances has a trust fund regardless of what happens to the cataloge.  She needn't worry.

Nirvana Was one of the best bands ever, and Kurt was a genius.

The Stones will never be as good as he Beatles, no matter how long they actually live.

GOOD DAY!

Nirvana is much bigger than they should be due to Kurt dying while in their prime, they were good, and the first mainstream break out of that genre.

Personally I think Alice in Chains is a much better band, but both of their unplugged albums are amazing  :headbang:

While I am not a huge Nirvana fan their cover of "The Man Who Sold the World" was great.

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« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2010, 08:55:42 AM »

Frances has a trust fund regardless of what happens to the cataloge.  She needn't worry.

Nirvana Was one of the best bands ever, and Kurt was a genius.

The Stones will never be as good as he Beatles, no matter how long they actually live.

GOOD DAY!

Nirvana is much bigger than they should be due to Kurt dying while in their prime, they were good, and the first mainstream break out of that genre.

Personally I think Alice in Chains is a much better band, but both of their unplugged albums are amazing  :headbang:

While I am not a huge Nirvana fan their cover of "The Man Who Sold the World" was great.


Actually, Nirvana was bigger when Kurt was still alive. Many of their fans dropped off after Kurt offed himself, and still harbor that anger to this day. They felt betrayed because the person that seemed to embody their frustration, and seemed to channel it into his music just gave up. Not to mention Courtney has done just about everything she can to trip up the legacy of the band. As long as she has any say in what happens to Nirvana's legacy, that legacy will suffer.

 It is ok if you don't think much of the band (and I too like AIC much more) but the reason Nirvana was big is because they stood apart from any other band, and because the songs were fucking top notch. The rock world was drowning in surface deep bullshit, and Nirvana cut right through that with a jagged knife.

To this day, the whole grunge as a genre thing baffles me. Nirvana, Soudgarden, AIC, Mudhoney, Pearl Jam ect. only had a fucking state in common. These bands were miles apart in sound. The copycat bands that followed were the only bands that muddied the water. "Hype" is great movie, and a great insight to how much the history of musical movements are slaughtered by Rolling Stone and VH-1 revisionism.
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2010, 08:59:37 AM »

I just don't understand how it gets so much hype when it was music written with 3 basic power chords in every song.
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2010, 10:09:01 AM »

Frances has a trust fund regardless of what happens to the cataloge.  She needn't worry.

Nirvana Was one of the best bands ever, and Kurt was a genius.

The Stones will never be as good as he Beatles, no matter how long they actually live.

GOOD DAY!

Nirvana is much bigger than they should be due to Kurt dying while in their prime, they were good, and the first mainstream break out of that genre.

Personally I think Alice in Chains is a much better band, but both of their unplugged albums are amazing  :headbang:

While I am not a huge Nirvana fan their cover of "The Man Who Sold the World" was great.


Actually, Nirvana was bigger when Kurt was still alive. Many of their fans dropped off after Kurt offed himself, and still harbor that anger to this day. They felt betrayed because the person that seemed to embody their frustration, and seemed to channel it into his music just gave up. Not to mention Courtney has done just about everything she can to trip up the legacy of the band. As long as she has any say in what happens to Nirvana's legacy, that legacy will suffer.

 It is ok if you don't think much of the band (and I too like AIC much more) but the reason Nirvana was big is because they stood apart from any other band, and because the songs were fucking top notch. The rock world was drowning in surface deep bullshit, and Nirvana cut right through that with a jagged knife.

To this day, the whole grunge as a genre thing baffles me. Nirvana, Soudgarden, AIC, Mudhoney, Pearl Jam ect. only had a fucking state in common. These bands were miles apart in sound. The copycat bands that followed were the only bands that muddied the water. "Hype" is great movie, and a great insight to how much the history of musical movements are slaughtered by Rolling Stone and VH-1 revisionism.

A huge part of why Nirvana is still big is their story.  Even if fans from when they were around killed themselves ask any teenager today and they know them.  Why?  A big part of pop culture is Kurt's suicide, jokes/references/conspiracy theories are everywhere.  And keeping that name around gave it cache.  So they get more and more play since people have them in their head.

Nirvana has become a brand name for the genre even if they were not the best.
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« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2010, 10:53:03 AM »

I just don't understand how it gets so much hype when it was music written with 3 basic power chords in every song.

Because rock music comes from there. 3 chords, simple beat, we must repeat...

Sounds like you are more mad at the hype than anything the band did? Hate the hype, not the playa...  :icon_rr:
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« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2010, 11:32:05 AM »

I write music, I've been playing guitar for almost 14 years and I started playing instruments when I was 4.  I would strongly disagree with
Because rock music comes from there. 3 chords, simple beat, we must repeat...


Now, I had a Nirvana day with my coworker a few weeks ago.  We listened to mostly Incesticide, some In Utero.  I don't HATE Nirvana, it's just. . .  very much what I liked when I was a kid, and my taste in music has changed a lot.  It's just not my slice of cake, anymore.  But every once in a while, I will pull out the old stuff (I'll listen to Garbage, and then Poe, and then Nirvana. . .) and have a trip down Memory Lane.

The only stuff I used to like that I can't get into anymore is garbage like Limp Bizkit or Korn.  Ahhhhhhh, youthful stupidity.
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« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2010, 11:58:47 AM »

I think that what I liked/like about Nirvana was that there was a fierceness that didn’t end up looking stupid and a sensitivity that didn’t end up looking feeble. There where quite a few of these so-called paradoxes going on in Kurt’s vocals and they added a lot of the types of emotional complexity that are recognisable to those prone to angst.   

The simplicity of many of the songs doesn’t take away anything from that aspect and you could argue that the surrounding music does it a big favour by not crowding it out. Obviously, some people do like 3 chords songs or simple rock-out songs for "ROCK!!!" alone and for a long time I didn't realise that these were a different type of Nirvana fan (not calling them Illegitimate fans as some might insinuate).

And, Of course, there is the hype-factor but it is unavoidable unfortunately.

I also like some "Hole" and both bands are highlights from my teen era. Most other music I purchased could be looked upon as a naive burning of money.
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2010, 12:31:11 PM »

http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=501701&gt1=28102

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« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2010, 01:17:05 PM »

I don't think any interview Courtney does can give insight into anything.  I love Courtney Love, but she is batshit crazy.
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I don’t know if she’s talking literally of a curse, but she has had a lot of bad fortune so perhaps she just made a link. Beyond the "superstition" angle, perhaps seeing the royalty cheques in the account on a regular basis or having to deal with record execs and royalty issues is unpleasant. Most importantly, there will be no more approaches from people wanting to buy the catalogue. Getting the cash means those dealings are done with.
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2010, 02:20:54 PM »

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I don’t know if she’s talking literally of a curse, but she has had a lot of bad fortune so perhaps she just made a link. Beyond the "superstition" angle, perhaps seeing the royalty cheques in the account on a regular basis or having to deal with record execs and royalty issues is unpleasant. Most importantly, there will be no more approaches from people wanting to buy the catalogue. Getting the cash means those dealings are done with.

that makes some sense
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2010, 12:01:20 PM »

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« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2010, 12:08:10 PM »

Yeah, not much of a fan myself.  There are a couple songs I think are alright, but I've never purchased an album or wanted to.
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« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2010, 12:37:55 AM »

I don't think any interview Courtney does can give insight into anything.  I love Courtney Love, but she is batshit crazy.

however, interviews with madonna often lead to insight into courtney love, even if they leave you even more clueless about madonna than before.
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« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2010, 01:10:19 AM »

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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2010, 10:23:43 PM »

I don't think any interview Courtney does can give insight into anything.  I love Courtney Love, but she is batshit crazy.

however, interviews with madonna often lead to insight into courtney love, even if they leave you even more clueless about madonna than before.

Only the ones where she gets pelted by makeup compacts.
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Re: Courtney Love offered $162 million for Nirvana rights
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2010, 03:33:54 AM »

I don't think any interview Courtney does can give insight into anything.  I love Courtney Love, but she is batshit crazy.

however, interviews with madonna often lead to insight into courtney love, even if they leave you even more clueless about madonna than before.

Only the ones where she gets pelted by makeup compacts.

'when in doubt, throw shit from your purse at madonna.'
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« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2010, 02:15:01 PM »

She totally hijacked that interview.  That is just one of the reasons why I love Courtney Love.
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