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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #135 on: January 31, 2011, 12:20:54 PM »

Found this relating to insulin resistance (this was talked about on page 9 of this thread in case you're wondering why I'm posting it here)
Low Dose Organochlorine Pesticides and Polychlorinated Biphenyls Predict Obesity, Dyslipidemia, and Insulin Resistance among People Free of Diabetes
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0015977
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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #136 on: February 06, 2011, 04:08:07 PM »

I've been veggie for a little over three years.
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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #137 on: February 06, 2011, 04:08:45 PM »

i failed...
but i want to get back to it ASAP
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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #138 on: February 08, 2011, 02:44:42 AM »

This awesome tv show in Flanders did something really awesome to point out the hypocrisy of meat-eaters. They held a barbecue to "thank our loyal watchers" or whatever. Then a week before the barbecue they showed a video of a super cute calf named Willy... "Meet Willy, it's our meat", and everyone was all "noo, don't kill Willy. Free Willy". A poll was held, people decided to save it. There was a barbecue, and afterwards they showed another cute video of a calf named Barabas: "he's our new meat... we have to eat something!". People cried and hopefully realised how stupid they were being.
In the end they didn't kill either one of them, and just bought their meat at the supermarket.

Made me happy I don't eat Willy's (stop it, you're disgusting) or Barabas'.
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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #139 on: February 08, 2011, 06:42:05 AM »

^That is retarded. I would eat a cow if it was in my back garden. I mean like if I'd raised it and all - if some poor moo-er happened to wander in then I wouldn't like chow it down head first as punishment or something xD

When I'm all growed up though, I really want to live on a little farm with three pigs, two sheep, six chickens, a cow and of course the three dogs, four cats, two chinchillas and a tank of fish*. Apart from the housepets, I fully intend to kill and eat them all when they're ready to be killed and eaten. Am a little undecided about the chickens, because I want them for eggs and egg-chickens aren't as good for eating as meat-chickens, but I guess I could totes get a mixture. Ooh, maybe a cockerel... And the cow will be a milk cow, not a meat cow, but you can still eat them, right? I dunno.

Anyway, my point is - getting to know the animals you're chomping on, and knowing how they lived, and knowing how they died, has to be a significantly preferable way to get your meat fix than just gulping down some anonymous slab of dead stuff that you know nothing about. This is my theory, and when me and Fran Kranz live on our farm in the Lake District after our beautiful honeymoon-roadtrip thing round the south of England in the summertime checking out the beer- and folk-festivals in the sunshine for three weeks, which is of course the only way to celebrate our gorgeous Quaker wedding in Frandley Meeting House (there's a cherry blossom there, it's lovely - and before you point out that I'd need a Spring wedding to have the cherry blossom in bloom and that would put my summer honeymoon too early, shush, we're having a gap in the middle to get over the wedding stuff and get on with the marriage stuff, and then the honeymoon will be wonderful) where my mum cried and my step-mum wore a very large hat and our first dance was either Dream Away by George Harrison or possibly In The Aeroplane Over The Sea and I wore purple and was gorgeous, of course, so when that happens then me and Fran will be very very happy with our little farm on which to raise a tousle-haired army of children and then get old and die by the wood-burning stove having got fat and happy on the animals we raised in the back yard. (He's going to propose at the top of the Eiffel Tower on my birthday while I'm wearing a Christopher Kane dress he bought me the previous week.)


*And I have named them all, or at least the first generation before I eat that lot and get new ones (I'm not eating the cats and dogs and chinchillas and fish, to clarify). The pigs are Odysseus, Persephone and Sugar-Tits, the sheep are Clarence and Maud, chickens are Tomasina, Hortense, Maximillia, Portia, Flavia and Rex, the cow's called Megan, the dogs are Manchee, Parev and Perfect Weather To Fly, the cats will me Charlemagne, Gideon, Rosencrantz and Guildernstern, the chinchillas are Cosmo and Zacheriah, and the fish will be called Legion FOR THEY ARE MANY.
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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #140 on: February 08, 2011, 09:06:55 AM »

I've helped herd cattle and even pointed out to other people there doing the same thing that branding really wasn't cruel since "the story ends the same way for each and every cow here."

I have no problem looking my meat in the eye. I do point out that a lot of meat eaters are hypocrites about it.
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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #141 on: February 08, 2011, 09:23:12 AM »

This awesome tv show in Flanders did something really awesome to point out the hypocrisy of meat-eaters. They held a barbecue to "thank our loyal watchers" or whatever. Then a week before the barbecue they showed a video of a super cute calf named Willy... "Meet Willy, it's our meat", and everyone was all "noo, don't kill Willy. Free Willy". A poll was held, people decided to save it. There was a barbecue, and afterwards they showed another cute video of a calf named Barabas: "he's our new meat... we have to eat something!". People cried and hopefully realised how stupid they were being.
In the end they didn't kill either one of them, and just bought their meat at the supermarket.

Made me happy I don't eat Willy's (stop it, you're disgusting) or Barabas'.

I would've been all like, "woohoo! let's grill that motherfucker up!!!"

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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #142 on: February 08, 2011, 11:59:11 AM »

I've helped herd cattle and even pointed out to other people there doing the same thing that branding really wasn't cruel since "the story ends the same way for each and every cow here."

I have no problem looking my meat in the eye. I do point out that a lot of meat eaters are hypocrites about it.
i'm not.  a deer is more delicious than it is cute, and watching them overrun a community is just sad.  watching the bucks kill off the little ones is even sadder and i'd rather see the bucks go for meat than overwhelm the area.

my dog is also well aware if the grid goes down, he will become steaks.  for that matter, so will the neighbor's kids if it gets too desperate, although i'd really not rather eat a person.  the human body is a sewer.
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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #143 on: February 09, 2011, 10:25:19 AM »

Yeah, I was never a fan of long pork.  :D
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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #144 on: February 21, 2011, 11:50:13 AM »

This awesome tv show in Flanders did something really awesome to point out the hypocrisy of meat-eaters. They held a barbecue to "thank our loyal watchers" or whatever. Then a week before the barbecue they showed a video of a super cute calf named Willy... "Meet Willy, it's our meat", and everyone was all "noo, don't kill Willy. Free Willy". A poll was held, people decided to save it. There was a barbecue, and afterwards they showed another cute video of a calf named Barabas: "he's our new meat... we have to eat something!". People cried and hopefully realised how stupid they were being.
In the end they didn't kill either one of them, and just bought their meat at the supermarket.

Made me happy I don't eat Willy's (stop it, you're disgusting) or Barabas'.

I don't really see where the point in that is.
They bought their meat at the supermarket afterwards, so they just had meat that didn't come from a cow they saw.

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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #145 on: February 21, 2011, 11:51:54 AM »

exactly

the message is "we want to eat meat but we don't want to think about the fact that it comes from some cute animal".
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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #146 on: March 01, 2011, 03:37:01 PM »

I know a lot of vegetarians who eat gelatin, but I don't, because you have to kill the animal to get gelatin. Most stuff doesn't have animal-ey gelatin anymore, but the marshmallows they had at this camp I went to did. When I explained why I didn't eat gelatin, everyone was really grossed out/mad at me. If you're okay with eating the muscles of animals, why is the other stuff bad?

Blerg, I never make sense.
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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #147 on: March 01, 2011, 05:23:25 PM »

^clear to me...

I’m in the middle of quite a bizarre argument about vegetarianism. I’ve never had to argue it before. I’ll say no more right now because I’m still hoping that they’ll justify what they’re saying but I might have to vent about this later on or tomorrow.
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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #148 on: March 01, 2011, 05:31:41 PM »

Cows aren't cute. Really, when faced with day upon day of these walking poo factories, there's little cuteness left, but plenty of tastiness.
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Re: the vegetarian/vegan thread
« Reply #149 on: March 01, 2011, 06:25:57 PM »

Most stuff doesn't have animal-ey gelatin anymore....
Really?  That's news to me - last time I checked, there were vegetarian alternatives to gelatin/gelatine available, but
they tended to provide an inferior texture, cost too much, and to be difficult to find except in vegetarian-specialty stores.
Most prepared foods and the like still contained animal-derived gelatin(-e)....

Someone better-informed than I:  Has this changed in the last year or so?  My sister would be thrilled...
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