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Challange to Amanda
« on: April 10, 2011, 07:50:23 AM »

Hi Amanda, I have been thinking long and hard about you lately. No, not in the stalker kind of twisted way, but in the what the fuck kind of way. I sit here and read your blogs and follow all the things you do and say to myself, what? What the fuck. Amanda the simple fact is you are scared, scared to be the superstar that you are. Don't take this the wrong way please, it is not a condemnation, it is an observation. You say that you want honesty and truth from your fans, well here it is. You have more talent in your little finger than all the Lady Ga Ga's put together. Yet, you have not reached the level that your talent dictates you should be at. Odd really because I can often picture you at the Grammy awards singing Amperstand with the Boston Symphony and seeing all the mouths drop at the sheer level of stunning talent. This doesn't happen, So we have to look at why, and why in my opinion is that it is far easier for you to be the cult darling of the Twitter generation than being the greatest female performer of our generation. Stop me when I am wrong please, but I think not. I beg of you to stop, stop trying to please everyone, it is killing you. Yes we love you, but it would be far more rewarding to see you be at the level that you should be at than to see you in a 300 seat club. I know many are going to say this is all bullshit, but it isn't, you know it and I know it. So I sit here and say it is time Amanda, time to let go of the small ideas, you are bigger than that, you are better than that. There is a small window of chance for you to get through to the "superstar" status, does it frighten you that much? Do you really think that WKAP didn't deserve to get 5 or more Grammy's, you know it did, Ben knows it did, we all know it did, but to get that you sometimes have to let go of a little bit of control. Maybe you really don't care, that's always a real possibility. I for one think it would be a shame to see you continue to wallow in your self made castle of cult. Please take this with the love I feel for you as a fan. Get some new management, play the game a little Amanda, just a little, you don't have to be a robot, but you could let go just a little, afterall, do you really want to sit back and say at 60 that you could have been headlining something like Glastonbury, but you were to damn stubborn to give up just a little. I wonder, so please read this and think, think of what it could be if you just let go a little. I'd rather see you in a stadium of 50,0 00 people than a club of 200(we have all seen that by now) at this point, you deserve it!! Thanks for letting me rant, I feel deeply for the art that you create and I just would like to see you get to where you could go. Then again maybe you like it this way, if that's true, that's a shame really, don't fear being a superstar, you already are one , you just have to let go a little, please. Who Killed Amanda Palmer? Amanda Palmer did. Love, Wayne
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Re: Challange to Amanda
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2011, 08:27:58 AM »

i've read this SO many times and i'm ubersick of it, honestly : ''You have more talent in your little finger than all the Lady Ga Ga's put together''
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Re: Challange to Amanda
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2011, 08:44:26 AM »

i think as Amanda starts to get to that status of winning Grammy's and headlining Glastonbury, she will be too famous/get more and more fans to be able to do ninja gigs, intermediate shows, and will start to loose the close connection between her fans.  i do agree that she should be winning awards because of her immense talent but i don't think she needs to.  i think we all know that she is very talented, but i don't think she needs a grammy to prove that.  i would hate it if she done a show to 50,000 people, it would be impossible for her to connect with the audience and meet them all after, and after all that is one of the fundamental things that she does, is connect to her audience.  i think the reason why Amanda hasn't hit major stardom is because she doesn't want to.
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Re: Challange to Amanda
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2011, 09:01:29 AM »

She's a Dresden Doll, but she has never been a doll or a puppet of the record companies. So i think, this is a more honourable and simple way to make a living, as a musician.
Personally, i'd prefer enough record sale to pay my rent and a bunch of good fans to a really big money which i can never spend the way i want to and the crowds which would never leave me alone. A real musician needs a little privacy and silence to produce, i think we all can understand and respect it.

As for the castle, i think she's one of the most modest and friendly musicians, she does ninjagigs, she gives hugs to hundreds of people she has never seen before, she writes nearly everything she does to her blog... This is not living in a castle.
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Re: Challange to Amanda
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2011, 10:01:06 AM »

strightens tie, ahem
FUCK FAME

Amanda is must more entertaining this close and connected to her fans.

but to continue the challenge Anneka sorry Amanda title.


I challenge Amanda to build a circus tent in the middle of Boston for the kids to play and learn circus skills for a day in a weekend.
will she accept? Find out this weekend on PBS :)

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Re: Challange to Amanda
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2011, 10:38:51 AM »

i've read this SO many times and i'm ubersick of it, honestly : ''You have more talent in your little finger than all the Lady Ga Ga's put together''


Agreed, it's just automatically seen that less known artists are more talented and that artists in the spotlight, like dear Gaga, are just products. It gets pretty annoying, Gaga is an incredibly talented person.

It also irks me when people put a space between the Ga's, but that's just me being silly.

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Re: Challange to Amanda
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2011, 12:13:27 PM »

Maybe Lady Gaga, who may be individually an intelligent person but whose music seems pop-vacuous, isn't the most apt comparison.  Instead, compare Amanda's potential for the next part of her career to perhaps Bette Midler from the prior generation.  Huge talent and wit, major showmanship, yet still personally connecting and accessible to her fans through her involvement in rights groups, local river clean-ups, etc.  When I ask myself what are the key differences between the two, it's that Midler's done comedic and dramatic movie roles ("Ruthless People", "The Rose"); she collaborates in a more scripted, production-number way in her shows, for better or worse (but still brings the individual songs too); and her comedic ribaldry and language in her shows and on television is more vaudeville-like, teasing and insinuating rather than shocking or coarse.  She's a more traditional singer, as well.  I wouldn't want to see Amanda "go Vegas" like Bette, not at all, but I do think Amanda has breakout potential as an actor.  Her facial expressions alone light up the screen; go back and look at "Shores of California" video or "Together" karaoke video.  It's encouraging to me that she said on Twitter she was hanging with the sharply devious Alan Cumming; that can only lead to good things.

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Re: Challange to Amanda
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2011, 12:46:34 PM »

Hi Amanda, I have been thinking long and hard about you lately. No, not in the stalker kind of twisted way, but in the what the fuck kind of way. I sit here and read your blogs and follow all the things you do and say to myself, what? What the fuck. Amanda the simple fact is you are scared, scared to be the superstar that you are. Don't take this the wrong way please, it is not a condemnation, it is an observation. You say that you want honesty and truth from your fans, well here it is. You have more talent in your little finger than all the Lady Ga Ga's put together. Yet, you have not reached the level that your talent dictates you should be at. Odd really because I can often picture you at the Grammy awards singing Amperstand with the Boston Symphony and seeing all the mouths drop at the sheer level of stunning talent. This doesn't happen, So we have to look at why, and why in my opinion is that it is far easier for you to be the cult darling of the Twitter generation than being the greatest female performer of our generation. Stop me when I am wrong please, but I think not. I beg of you to stop, stop trying to please everyone, it is killing you. Yes we love you, but it would be far more rewarding to see you be at the level that you should be at than to see you in a 300 seat club. I know many are going to say this is all bullshit, but it isn't, you know it and I know it. So I sit here and say it is time Amanda, time to let go of the small ideas, you are bigger than that, you are better than that. There is a small window of chance for you to get through to the "superstar" status, does it frighten you that much? Do you really think that WKAP didn't deserve to get 5 or more Grammy's, you know it did, Ben knows it did, we all know it did, but to get that you sometimes have to let go of a little bit of control. Maybe you really don't care, that's always a real possibility. I for one think it would be a shame to see you continue to wallow in your self made castle of cult. Please take this with the love I feel for you as a fan. Get some new management, play the game a little Amanda, just a little, you don't have to be a robot, but you could let go just a little, afterall, do you really want to sit back and say at 60 that you could have been headlining something like Glastonbury, but you were to damn stubborn to give up just a little. I wonder, so please read this and think, think of what it could be if you just let go a little. I'd rather see you in a stadium of 50,0 00 people than a club of 200(we have all seen that by now) at this point, you deserve it!! Thanks for letting me rant, I feel deeply for the art that you create and I just would like to see you get to where you could go. Then again maybe you like it this way, if that's true, that's a shame really, don't fear being a superstar, you already are one , you just have to let go a little, please. Who Killed Amanda Palmer? Amanda Palmer did. Love, Wayne

there are hundreds of thousands of performers who do everything you suggest and still don't get the level of fame you think Amanda deserves.

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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2011, 02:09:59 PM »

I also disagree with the notion that WKAP should have won grammies.
In my opinion, it wasn't that great of an album.
Amanda really lost herself in it, I blame Ben a little. The alternative cut was a huge improvement with everything stripped down like that though.

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Re: Challange to Amanda
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2011, 02:50:53 PM »

Hi Amanda, I have been thinking long and hard about you lately. No, not in the stalker kind of twisted way, but in the what the fuck kind of way. I sit here and read your blogs and follow all the things you do and say to myself, what? What the fuck. Amanda the simple fact is you are scared, scared to be the superstar that you are. Don't take this the wrong way please, it is not a condemnation, it is an observation. You say that you want honesty and truth from your fans, well here it is. You have more talent in your little finger than all the Lady Ga Ga's put together. Yet, you have not reached the level that your talent dictates you should be at. Odd really because I can often picture you at the Grammy awards singing Amperstand with the Boston Symphony and seeing all the mouths drop at the sheer level of stunning talent. This doesn't happen, So we have to look at why, and why in my opinion is that it is far easier for you to be the cult darling of the Twitter generation than being the greatest female performer of our generation. Stop me when I am wrong please, but I think not. I beg of you to stop, stop trying to please everyone, it is killing you. Yes we love you, but it would be far more rewarding to see you be at the level that you should be at than to see you in a 300 seat club. I know many are going to say this is all bullshit, but it isn't, you know it and I know it. So I sit here and say it is time Amanda, time to let go of the small ideas, you are bigger than that, you are better than that. There is a small window of chance for you to get through to the "superstar" status, does it frighten you that much? Do you really think that WKAP didn't deserve to get 5 or more Grammy's, you know it did, Ben knows it did, we all know it did, but to get that you sometimes have to let go of a little bit of control. Maybe you really don't care, that's always a real possibility. I for one think it would be a shame to see you continue to wallow in your self made castle of cult. Please take this with the love I feel for you as a fan. Get some new management, play the game a little Amanda, just a little, you don't have to be a robot, but you could let go just a little, afterall, do you really want to sit back and say at 60 that you could have been headlining something like Glastonbury, but you were to damn stubborn to give up just a little. I wonder, so please read this and think, think of what it could be if you just let go a little. I'd rather see you in a stadium of 50,0 00 people than a club of 200(we have all seen that by now) at this point, you deserve it!! Thanks for letting me rant, I feel deeply for the art that you create and I just would like to see you get to where you could go. Then again maybe you like it this way, if that's true, that's a shame really, don't fear being a superstar, you already are one , you just have to let go a little, please. Who Killed Amanda Palmer? Amanda Palmer did. Love, Wayne



WKAP was like two years ago, and if it had won five grammys, we would know that it was as vacuous, craptastic, and lacking in substance as anything else that's won five grammys, even if the recordings themselves were technically perfect, which they weren't.  it is no surprise to me when the actual 'good stuff' doesn't win televised awards.  i for one don't mind the 300-seat venues, because i wouldn't go to a stadium show; i would download the dvd of it from pirate bay or buy it from somewhere, because stadium shows suck ass.

the thing is, there is no need for 'selling out.'  granted that selling oneself at all is selling out, but there's not even any need to do things very much differently from the way she does them now.  frankly, i'd just be happy for another actual album, instead of these experimental, thrown-together, or specialty records. and, without making this any kind of personal commentary about any one person (because it isn't intended to be), i'd like to see amanda hire professionals to do the work around her, instead of hiring fans and other artists, of any genre.  i tried that route myself in my own business, and i have seen others try it time and again, and it leads to, well, chaos.  artists don't work well for other artists, as a species.  she is already too big to not have a crew that knows what it is doing, and also that doesn't give a crap about what they are packaging because it is their job to package it and not to love it or promote or comment on it, just get it done, and not (necessarily) be fans......if only because business is business.

i don't think she needs to make compromises in the same areas you are saying they need to be made because frankly, i hope i never see amanda palmer doing a 'rock the vote' commercial.  i slightly agree that compromises need to be made, but only to tighten up her shit, not to catapult her to some imaginary super-stardom that couldn't support the kind of product she produces.



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Re: Challange to Amanda
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2011, 05:12:50 PM »

While Amanda has all the talent required, I don't see why she would need to change anything (unless she felt like she needed to of course but even then would it be absolutely necessary? Perhaps not).

I've never had the chance to meet her but the impression I have of her is that she's a very down-to-Earth kind of a person and that it's easy to approach her and she herself approaches "regular" people. I don't know if she would have a chance to do that if she had a large fanatic group of people following her around 24/7-just look at people like Justin Bieber for example, I don't see him ever being able to pull a ninja gig or even walk the street in peace. Why would anyone want that?

If I had the talent and opportunity and would have a choice, I would prefer Amanda's way of doing things over being a mega superstar who can't even go to the bathroom without someone calling the press.

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Re: Challange to Amanda
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2011, 05:51:00 PM »

Ever notice how crazy people don't use paragraphs?
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2011, 05:54:46 PM »

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Re: Challange to Amanda
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2011, 06:17:51 PM »

amanda is a regular person
who feels real lucky
that she can have the artistic life she has.

she's a super-star at being herself.

why would she want anything different?

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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2011, 06:18:56 PM »

amanda is a regular person
who feels real lucky
that she can have the artistic life she has.

she's a super-star at being herself.

why would she want anything different?

Well said!
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