and yeah, actually, it really sucks. This is probably how it feels for Amanda to read negative, bitter comments from fans about her art. Those feelings that all the fans have, the artists have them too..
Amanda does have feelings, and really cares about people.
And her fans are people to her.
Some closer than others, but that's a matter of degree, not feeling.
Thoughtless complaints, selfish complaints have to bother her.
Constructive respectful criticism might sting at times,
but are wanted and even encouraged.
Maybe us naysayers should stop peeing in everyone's teacup and just not post on the upper boards...
I mean, yeah, Cee did get that my comment (the zero effort - 5000$ bundles one) was a bit of an hyperbole, though Amanda probably didn't, because she addressed it in her blog... but I can't hide that there is quite a bit of hurt feeling behind such a statement.
Amanda was reacting to the comment,
not you, Slyvia K, her artist friend.
Enough of those who read it, don't know of the past
you have with her.
And many of those who didn't read it, have it in their
Let me make this $$ analytical comment another way.
Than the other ways,i've made it, here on the sbox,
in comments on her blog, and elsewhere.
Amanda 'employs' six or more full time equivalents.
We know of indecision, Hayley, SuperKate, currently employed.
There are part or full time people beyond that doing:
merch, law, contracts, bookkeeping, accounting, income taxes,
booking, 'management', etc.
For those she pays directly, she has to pay a living wage.
(Amanda both cares about people,
and knows that if you don't give people enough $$ to live on,
they can't perform well for you).
That's in the $20,000 to $25,000 range in NY City,
and not much lower in the rest of the US.
Rent, food, and basic expenses.
I'm also pretty sure she's pays health insurance for
those she employs directly.
That's over $5,000 a year in the US right now,
and going up a-lot every year.
She has to pay Social Security,
and other taxes employers have to pay.
So let's say 7 people at $40,000/year
(I'm including Amanda herself),
total cost of labor, not salary.
That's a quarter of a million dollars plus, in labor costs.
(And I'm not including a living wage for Amanda herself her).
25 $5,000 bundles. (Have that many been sold in the last
And we haven't even considered the cost of making and
shipping the merch (That includes studio time for making
the albums, which is pricey). The costs of
transporting amanda, her manager and/or her assistant,
etc. around. The costs of the computers, this
and her other web sights are on (yes, team
amanda leverages 'free'/no direct $$$ websights on the
Internet, but that only goes so far). Pens, pencils,
instrument repair, etc. (Maybe I should start a thread,
and let you all post the things, Team Amanda HAS to spend
And the income side? Hmm, we have an artist here who
wants everyone to enjoy her music/art, regardless of
whether they can pay for it. No charge ninja events,
download-able music on the net, at almost no charge.
Who let's her fans post pics, video, and audio of her
live performances with no restrictions.
Who asks the fans with extra money to donate,
buy expensive bundles, etc. to help her make it all
happen for everyone who wants to share her art with her.
Isn't she entitled to feeling bad that so many people
aren't getting the financial realities?
I don't think that dismissing all criticism with ''not true'' and by saying that her fans have always been critical (to which I would add a : not true) and a tough crowd to please is very fair. I know that Amanda doesn't owe us anything.
I have been such a HUGE fan for so much time. Then the experimental projects kicked in. One was fine. Two, erm, ok. and the more ''fun'' the songs were, the more crazy bundles (like, seriously crazy) and the more stuff for sale. I felt as if Amanda just wanted to make money, and knew that she had a wide adoring (read, obsessive at time, like paying thousands of $ for a pregnancy test) fanbase that she could count on and that would buy literally ANYTHING she puts out.
If ''punk cabaret is freedom'', it has to be a two way street. Ninja gigs, but also, fans bringing food at gigs, fans hosting her... When was the last time you saw Amanda post on the board? I certainly can't remember. I don't know, some of the ''magic'' has gone... I'm not saying that we ''hardcore'' longtime fans should count more than newbies, not at all, but it's harsh to see she simply doesn't care..
I miss Amanda posting here on the sbox,
but she's moved most of that to
twitter, and her blog.
Despite yoga, focus, great staff, etc.,
even Amanda has limits on what she can do.
It is also part of her evolution as an artist,
and person, to use and try new ways of communicating.
Each fan can move on, or not.
I know fans from the early days,
when she and Brian had hundreds,
not hundreds of thousands of fans.
Those early fans miss the early days,
like we're missing Amanda here on the sbox.
But Amanda and Brian both find time to share
a few words with each of them, and you, and me.
BTW, for those who haven't noticed,
Brian is posting on facebook,
less when he's on tour,
more when he's home.
But for him, a lot of words on the Internet.
And believe me, I do feel really bad at criticizing her so bitterly, because it's a bit like bashing an old, dear friend. Because that is the impression she gave out. and maybe I was just crazy to think there was some kind of connection, eh...
I travelled abroad to see her, bought every record and a lot of merch, used to draw her constantly, even designed some official merchandise for her (and all for free, I used to feel quite honored about being one of the ''chosen ones'')...because the music and also her attitude were just so appealing to me.
Now I feel like I'm just one of the crazy bashers being dismissed, and yeah, actually, it really sucks.
To repeat, your comment is being criticized back,
not because it's yours, but because it's
representative of many others.
rock love -len
sigh, the review I want to do of the show at Mass Art friday
will have to wait for another day,
and I also doubt i'll see much of the 8h8s webcast ...