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[neversaynikki]

This is a publicity stunt geared to attract the attention of media and music moguls who have so much money falling out of their asses that they can drop $800 on a ticket to this thing. Funny...Amanda was just bragging about what a great "singer' Neil is and Viola! he comes down with a terrible chest cold. Gee, bet he won't be lending his vocal stylings to the recording now. What did ya do Neil, stand outside last night in your underpants until you got sick? Almost as slick as wearing your funeral suit on The Colbert Report so Stephen wouldn't make you look like an ass. "Cause who is gonna pick on a guy who's father just died? "Oh, I wore that because I had nothing else to put on" ......yeah, you flew all the way to the UK, stayed there for days but had not one change of clothes with you. Uh-huh. We're all morons, Neil, we believe everything you say..........you too, Amanda-if you say it or type it, it must be true.......

this seems like a perfect opportunity for my favorite latin phrase! non sequitur, my friend. very, very non sequitur.

[Hayley Fiasco!]

I heard him sing once... It's true, he has a lovely singing voice, which shouldn't be a surprise as his speaking voice is terrific.

Funny...Amanda was just bragging about what a great "singer' Neil is and Viola! he comes down with a terrible chest cold.

I think it's more likely he got it from Amanda who was sick herself just a while ago. Plus it's the season, everyone's getting a cold this time of year. 

It's also worth noting that Amanda was signed up to be a speaker at the music conference many months before they opted to do the 8 songs in 8 hours. Her panel has been on ReThink's schedule website for ages now. It's part of, or sponsored by MIDEM (which Amanda spoke at last year).

 

[Musings]

In seriousness:

I have a long post written in my head entitled, "Dear Amanda Palmer's Music, Why I'm Breaking Up with You, and It's Me, Not You, But Maybe a Little You, Too"...

But it has nothing to do with this particular project.

People have done a lot stupider things for charity (and not for charity, for that matter), and I would much rather Amanda, Ben, and Damien write an album in 8 hours and have something musical that I can listen to and have an opinion on than they sell their underwear on Ebay.  Or actually participate in a back-stabbing reality TV show (i.e., Celebrity Apprentice).

I think people are bristling at the idea of such a project after a string of gimmicky projects/products from Amanda -- but it's charity, collaboration, and frankly, I'm kind of interested of the product because out of the three artists, Damien of Ok Go has been able to produce some really fantastic art out of out-there, gimmicky concepts (take a look at any Ok Go videos),  Amanda and Ben have had kind of a hit or miss record... but hopefully they'll be able to inform each other's art and creative processes in new ways.

Edit: And how could I forget Neil with his mysterious sudden illness, possibly brought on by a deal made with the devil in order to avoid singing on this album.

[The Epigrammic Poultry]

I have actually really liked her last few little endeavours, but that's beside the point really. To be honest, I don't give a shit whether I'll like this or not, or her next project, or the next thing after that. As much as I adore the music she has written, and I love to hear new music by her, it's not like I'm in a tactile, brittle relationship with Amanda Palmer's music. I'm not obligated to follow her music either way, but nor can't "get divorced" from her work.

I love Siouxsie and The Banshees, but that doesn't mean I give a fuck if I think half of Siouxsie's body of work isn't worth listening to. I listen to the other half and leave it at that.

If you like a piece of music, listen to it. If you don't like it, stop bitching and listen to something else.

[Mr. Leave Me Alone]

^
Yes.

[Zoe Amory]

If you like a piece of music, listen to it. If you don't like it, stop bitching and listen to something else.

Finally, someone said what I've been thinking but couldn't word out. Agree wholeheartedly. 

[Agonistes]

I love Siouxsie and The Banshees, but that doesn't mean I give a fuck if I think half of Siouxsie's body of work isn't worth listening to. I listen to the other half and leave it at that.

amazingly well said, sir.  this has in the past always been my approach to music, and it's my burgeoning opinion that i should, in fact, keep it that way.

[theseeker]

http://blog.amandapalmer.net/post/4911869917/afp-responds-to-hypebot She's so eloquent <333

(Shhhhhhhh...)

[MeAndMyCharms]

I have actually really liked her last few little endeavours, but that's beside the point really. To be honest, I don't give a shit whether I'll like this or not, or her next project, or the next thing after that. As much as I adore the music she has written, and I love to hear new music by her, it's not like I'm in a tactile, brittle relationship with Amanda Palmer's music. I'm not obligated to follow her music either way, but nor can't "get divorced" from her work.

I love Siouxsie and The Banshees, but that doesn't mean I give a fuck if I think half of Siouxsie's body of work isn't worth listening to. I listen to the other half and leave it at that.

If you like a piece of music, listen to it. If you don't like it, stop bitching and listen to something else.

Yes, this.

I really can't understand people's need to get angry, or hurt, or upset over an artist releasing something that they personally don't like. Chances are, it's going to happen at some point anyway. You can't always love everything they do.
We've all got bands we loved as we grew up. Through our school years, as we got older. Then we moved on because our tastes evolved.
This happens with artists too. They are allowed to change. It's not like they sign a contract at the start of their career stating that they Must never think outside of the box! Must never grow as an artist! And for God sake, don't do anything to startle the audience! Keep it nice and predictable..

Some people who have been fans of an artist for quite a time start to get this elitist attitude, and think that said artist owes them. It's like they want an apology when something they don't like is released.
Personally, I am not excited at all about this 8 songs thing. I won't be watching the webcast, and it will probably take me quite some time to even check out the end results. It just doesn't grab me by the tits.
But not once did I even feel the need to get upset about this. That reaction doesn't make sense to me. Why would it bother me?
I'll just go listen to some Kristin Hersh. Or The National. Or any one of all those other amazing bands/artists that are out there.
I'll patiently wait for the next project Amanda decides to try, and if I like it, fucking fantastic! Another thing to chuck on my iPod to listen to at work.

Also, nobody has even heard anything from this 8 songs project yet. Nothing has even been written, but so many people have already got the divorce proceedings rolling. The bad reviews are already written up.
Calm down everybody.

I feel so sorry for Amanda sometimes. She has to deal with such an emotional, needy audience at times. She can't even crack a joke on twitter without being blasted by the emo masses.
I hope she writes a country album full of fat jokes next. Won't y'all love that one!

[CaffeinatedCassadie]

i know i left, and i'm sure everyone knows how i feel about this stupid fucking shit, but

i'll just say, for the 3296742394th time,

please please please release your old demos amanda. it requires less effort than the australia joke minus the radiohead stunt divided by this 8-hour nonsense.

(i know that's a stretch and that i don't actually know what goes into any of this but i don't care, i just want to hear fucking kaledrina on a grand piano in a studio. is it that hard to upload them to bandcamp?)

MOTHERFUCKING YES.
At least that's a good beautifulamazingmeaningful song!

[yosmark]

lol i wanted to comment on it but eh, i mean, same old same zero effort thing she's going to invent ridiculous 5000$ bundles for.

  That is one of the funniest things I have read 


I haven't heard the last Album (I first have to order it and then dedicate one or two days to it) and well I don't know what will come out of this project but thing is I am probably going to buy it and listen to it. I am a fan of this lady and if she decides to create music with the screaming of a dying pig I am probably going to buy it and listen to it.

[Pope Totalfrog]

I just read the blog.

I am all for change and experimentation. I just want a little effort put in with my product.

I don't think there is ever going to be another WKAP. Never expected one and it would be weird if there was. That was another place and time. But if there is another full length album it would be nice if it wasn't filled with live tracks and covers. Especially live tracks with 5 minute long intros. If it is then I'll probably want to listen to it before I hand over cash for it (I usually operate the other way around).

I think creatively everything is as good as it ever was but just seems to be lacking polish. Not that it has to be totally overproduced and crazy. Just feels like some attention to the finer points have been lacking in order to get it out there as quickly as possible.

All of those thoughts are pretty much unrelated to the eight hour project. The results of that are bound to be interesting and like one blog commenter I would be rather pleased if one of the tracks was a polka...

[absynth aura]

I have to say, that while I can see where people are coming from here, I also have to wonder why? Is it that important that Amanda makes something that is clearly "superior" to her last releases, an improvement on wkap?
I've read most of thistopic with increasing frustration at some of these replies. Obviously there will be those who disapprove of what she is doing, and I have to say that I  not one of those people.
Then again, I'm not saying that I absolutely adore everything that she has done, but I still spend money on her releases. Why? Because I love the idea of what she does, and the more I love the release, the more I spend on her.
I'm looking forward to the 8 songs on 8 hours because of the possibilities that can come of these 4 great minds working together. It could completely blow, or it could be an amazing success, or even somewhere in-between.
I would kill for another "serious" album from Amanda, but until she feels ready to put herself through that again, I will be happy with whatever she does, and if I'm not then I won't listen to it, because lime she said in her blog it took a year for wkap to be to her level. A year. That's a long time, and a lot of mental and physical stress, and with Amanda already traveling at a million miles an hour, doing that for another album, for a year, no matter who you are, that's a fuck tonne of effort.
Like it's been said before, don't listen to the Amanda that you don't like, listen to what you do, and ignore the rest and wait until so does release something you like, it's hard to please everyone and what makes you disappointed in Amanda may make someone else happy, and just wait in the hope thY one day she will release something that is your wkap II

[Musings]

I feel so sorry for Amanda sometimes. She has to deal with such an emotional, needy audience at times. She can't even crack a joke on twitter without being blasted by the emo masses.
I hope she writes a country album full of fat jokes next. Won't y'all love that one!

What. No.  I don't feel sorry for Amanda.  Out of 73 replies on here, a whole 5? are straightforwardly anti-8 Hours Album, and maybe 10 are middling -- I wonder, what if, I hope this isn't -- statements.  One of those 5 is a crazy, and 4 are long-time fans who have invested art, love, and most importantly dollars and time into seeing and purchasing and spreading the word of their favorite artist.  The majority are positive, and then after the defensive blog came out so did the knights in shining armor.  Defend her or your lack of emotional attachment to death, but understand that feeling sorry for an artist and posting on a fan community about it is a form of - yes - emotional attachment.  Wondering about the stress and mental health involved in creating a new album is -- emotional attachment.

This is an artist who has ninja gigs at 6 AM and counts on the people reading her tweets about her illness to listening to her new song about Vegemite and Lady Gaga and sells off things in her apartment to make money.  If there's an emotional needy audience, there's also also an emotionally needy artist who feels the need to defend herself to the naysayers before releasing the music that could be the defense in itself.  Neither is a bad thing, but recognize the thing for what it is.

One of the SBx posts that Amanda misquoted said, not as Amanda suggested, "this undertaking... is 2. a joke", but rather, hoped, that the songs would not be jokey.  Which is fair game after she released songs about pubic hair and Vegemite, and the album is being released with Ben Folds, who is know for his jokey songs as well.

If Amanda were a company, say, Apple, wouldn't people discuss how they hoped that the new iPhone didn't suck and that it resolved it's antenna issues and had those features that they had really really hoped for on the last phone?

If she were a director, say, Tim Burton, wouldn't people discuss they hope that the new film would be better than Alice in Wonderland and that he return to the form of Edward Scissorhands?

It happens all over the place.  And while artists forever will be shrugging their shoulders and saying "the fans, can't please them all", I think it's worth it to recognize that this fan base is overwhelmingly kind, positive, and intelligent, and some of us (love you, yoshiki) are

fan(s) of this lady and if she decides to create music with the screaming of a dying pig I am probably going to buy it and listen to it.

and some of us are more discriminating and want to passionately argue about music we care/cared about deeply.

For Amanda to say

i’ve come to expect that level of criticism from the fan community, since it’s been like that from day one: i’ve often felt i’m either damned for putting out too much (or/and the “wrong kind of”) material, or damned for holding out on the fans for not releasing enough material.

is interesting because "the fan community" probably sends out 100x more love (much of it superficial) than criticism, and there aren't many left who can take the barrage of "too much needy fan" or "i love Amanda" in response to criticism and pondering about the success of new material.

[Mark!]

yeah, felt kinda bad how amanda thought we were thinking that the project was a joke.  i just meant that i didn't want more jokey songs.  she is writing them more of them nowadays, and  as much as i do love some of her humerous songs, i would like to hear more serious songs. i don't think raising money for charity is a joke.  i will however buy this album cause i do still support her 100% just like i've bought her other albums.  i may have not been 100% satisified with her last album, but i still bought it and learned to loved it.