This thread has way too many sizeist, ableist and sexist statements absolutely rife with intolerance and ignorance.
the preceding sentence offends me because it is full of non-words invented by 'political correctness,' which is, as i have said time and again, yet another form of exclusion. i don't think anyone in this thread meant to commit these word crimes, and it bothers me that people take their own problems and project them onto a thread about aesthetics, where no one meant any harm. correct them gently or point out their mistakes in wording as you see them? sure, but don't try to make out like these guys meant to insult you, personally. taking this shit personally doesn't make anything anyone's fault in this case. it just makes people who shouldn't have to take responsibility for someone else's feelings of shortcoming.
regarding the aesthetics of bewbies; big is not always best; a good handful is probably ideal. however, the two women i have been attracted to the most in my life both have/had pretty sizable racks.
Referring to the size of breasts in terms of personal preference (as sylvia did) is a lot less alienating than stating it almost as fact that "a good handful is probably ideal." I have a good deal more than a "good handful" and I'd like to think that my body type suits SOMEONE'S preference.[/quote]
well, misinterpreting a casual statement and deciding that, instead of giving fellow shadowboxers the benefit of the doubt about whether or not they meant any personal preference or were actually being insulting TO YOU is pretty alienating as well as ignorant. since this IS a 'safe place' to me, i feel more able to allow my hair down enough to assume that no one will apply misinterpretive meaning to what i might have said, no matter how laconic my wording is, knowing from my continued presence on the box that i don't mean any harm by what i have said. i've apologized profusely more than once when i have thought i have been insulting, even inadvertently, but i am not going to apologize for something someone assumed responsibility for owning out of the blue, blue sky. just because i don't use the 'acceptable' types of speech in one's perception doesn't mean i have actually insulted anyone, either. if i can't speak freely here, i don't see many places i can, honestly.
since i was stating my own preference (and referring to many women i have dated), i would assume it was more than obvious that i didn't speak for everyone's ideal, and therefore cannot accept responsibility for you projecting my casual statement about my personal aesthetics onto your own feelings of self. what the hell do you care what i am attracted to? how does that have any bearing on you as a person? it wasn't meant to, and therefore shouldn't. i don't see any males assuming i somehow said they were unattractive or that there was no one for them, just because i like people with breasts, for example. my girlfriend right now has way more than a handful, incidentally, and i've pledged the rest of my life to her, if she will have me. and, we've discussed our ideals in aesthetics, and neither of us 'measures up' because no one measures up to an ideal. that's why it's an ideal and not a norm.
edit: i do apologize if my kneejerk reaction here offends anyone inadvertently. but, i don't see a way to defend what i meant to say jokingly, to lighten the already dragging mood in this thread any other way. clearly it wasn't all that funny, and that's fine. we've all got to have days when we miss the mark with humor.
for one, it hit me sideways that so many threads were being picked apart and labeled as offensive, purely based on one or two person's feelings of self (by the way i am not referring to the actual disorder discussion). and, by the same token, it burns my ass being told how to post and how to word my wording. there have been statements made about gayness that have offended me here, and other statements i found ass-headed or ignorant, and i tried to give the poster the benefit of the doubt and not personalize what was said. i don't think the same consideration when i fuck up and say something that can be interpreted two ways is too much to ask to assume i meant the non-awful way.
In conclusion: stop fucking judging people and state your opinions about personal preference as YOUR OPINIONS and not general opinions. And don't trivialize anyone's issues.
i did state my personal opinion as my own personal opinion. that i don't take the time to type a disclaimer every single time i post an opinion is evidence that i feel as though i am among friends who won't automatically assume the worst from what i said.