This only just occurred to me, and I've not been listening/reading to most of this thread so it's a bit random. Sorry. But! My step-mum, who is straight, says that the only woman she would ever be gay for is KD Lang. Her exact words were, "I'm not into women, but if she wanted me to be, good God I'd try." She thinks she's "the most beautiful woman in forever". People are attracted to whatever they happen to fancy, and what strikes people as truly "beautiful", not just sexy or fit or whatever but beautiful like a painting or a song or a sunset, is always going to be subjective and surprising. For some, true stunning beauty is an androgynous, boyish frame, and for others it's going to be a curvaceous, pre-Raphaelite figure, and to others there will never be anything more beautiful than a very finely carved chair-leg. To argue about whether one is wrong or right is absurd - it's like arguing over whether a painting is more worthy of the word than a song.