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[The Angel Raliel]

Faster than light particles discovered......
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/us-science-light-idUSTRE78L4FH20110922

[Cherry Chesterfield]

Faster than light particles discovered......

from a smartass commenter:  "Whatever.  No biggie." 

[The Angel Raliel]

I physics is correct then effectively they recorded the particles arriving before they were sent

[Cherry Chesterfield]

Cue Albert Einstein rolling over in his grave.

[The Angel Raliel]

hah! actually the particles diod the boring thing and just arrived quicker than light takes to do the same journey

[Cherry Chesterfield]

It's interesting that these particles are neutrinos which, if I am not mistaken, are still being considered as a likely candidate as the, or a, particle that makes up dark matter.

[The Angel Raliel]

indeed but their arch nemesis is washing up liquid.....yep...true that's what they use to catch them....someone should totally have a Neutrino based superpower in the marvel or Dc universes......much hilarity could be made

[lentower]

theory doesn't prevent particles traveling faster than light

if just doesn't allow particles to travel at the speed of light
(which is a bit of a simplification, but close enough)

[Agonistes]

ag

there are possible scenarios that will wipe all chordates out.
in fact most everything more complicatred than a single cell

the likely ones will kill billions of us.

maybe our race is uneducable and can't develope enough self-control
to do better

perhaps such mega-death is what humans end up being about

you're right,
the survivial of some humans on a much changed planet
is the more probable result

my point is that we don't, in spite of what many say, make enough of an impact on the earth to effect self-extermination.  humans aren't the same as other species, in that there are a number of climates, foods, conditions we can make use of to survive in.

i am always skeptical of doomsday theory, because it assumes we have the power to actually destroy the planet.  frankly, i am not sure why our efforts at getting off the planet aren't four times as important as they seem now.

[lentower]

^ i always thought this was likely if a nucear winter happened

but a super-germ either evolved, or man-made, could take us all out.
a few might survive, if there are really environments that are indefinitely
self-sustaining in total quarantine and isolation


i would love to see our species have sizable successful breeding populations off planet.
it's an ultimate insurance policy

beyond the costs in money and accidental death, there will be a lot of deaths
due to evolution: mis-carriages, still-borns, infant, children, ...

not clear to me if this will happen soon or at all.
not enough people want it,
and there is no money to be made in space
by having colonies of humans there

[The Angel Raliel]

there is plenty of money to be made in space.. the problem is that currently none of it would benefit any current government....everyone is looking too short term to invest in projects that will not see a return outside of their current office

[lentower]

there is plenty of money to be made in space.. the problem is that currently none of it would benefit any current government....everyone is looking too short term to invest in projects that will not see a return outside of their current office

there is already plenty of money being made in space.
just by unmanned satellites

(apologies, if you read my last post above, before i added that qualification)

a space elevator would be a break-through app for space,
unlikely to be funded anytime soon

[Agonistes]

if it's money they want all they have to do is build a mall in orbit.  i can think of eighteen types of revenue available from that alone.

revolution disney.  i'd buy a ticket.

[lentower]

if it's money they want all they have to do is build a mall in orbit.  i can think of eighteen types of revenue available from that alone.

revolution disney.  i'd buy a ticket.

$20,000,000?

$1,000,000?

[Agonistes]

if it's money they want all they have to do is build a mall in orbit.  i can think of eighteen types of revenue available from that alone.

revolution disney.  i'd buy a ticket.

$20,000,000?

$1,000,000?

if i had 20, i'd spend 1 to go into space, wouldn't you?  and if i could charge 20 for anything at all, i surely would.