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Re: from the Science Desk
« Reply #90 on: September 07, 2011, 08:26:50 PM »

I never thought I'd say that a story about invasive species sounded like a good thing...but:     http://io9.com/5838045/the-giant-crab-invasion-of-antarctica-has-begun


 :) fire up the stockpot and break out the Old Bay!  :)

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Re: from the Science Desk
« Reply #91 on: September 10, 2011, 12:55:27 AM »



sadly, doesn't show the
Mass Extinction
currently going on
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« Reply #92 on: September 10, 2011, 07:13:24 AM »

Interesting how narrow the avian line is.....shows just how close they came to not making it through the K/T boundary
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Re: from the Science Desk
« Reply #93 on: September 12, 2011, 03:37:17 PM »

fun video:


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/BS5vid4GkEY" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/BS5vid4GkEY</a>


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« Reply #94 on: September 13, 2011, 03:39:32 PM »

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Re: from the Science Desk
« Reply #95 on: September 15, 2011, 07:27:38 PM »

 a series of articles on human enhancement - using various technologies to improve and/or go beyond the "normal" human body:

http://www.slate.com/id/2303277/entry/2303278/

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Re: from the Science Desk
« Reply #96 on: September 15, 2011, 07:42:23 PM »

a series of articles on human enhancement - using various technologies to improve and/or go beyond the "normal" human body:

http://www.slate.com/id/2303277/entry/2303278/

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Re: from the Science Desk
« Reply #98 on: September 16, 2011, 12:30:54 AM »

I'm just a little leery of anyone who tries to "improve" technology they can't replicate....
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« Reply #99 on: September 16, 2011, 07:34:47 AM »

I'm just a little leery of anyone who tries to "improve" technology they can't replicate....

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« Reply #100 on: September 16, 2011, 09:35:59 PM »

I'm just a little leery of anyone who tries to "improve" technology they can't replicate....

On the contrary, it is always much easier to find improvements than to come up with something in the first place.

Part of the reason we know evolution happened is because of many components in us and other animals that make no sense at all and/or are less desirable now that we live in civilization and not the wild.  There is great opportunity for improvement.  It is not fundamentally different than curing a genetic disease.
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« Reply #101 on: September 16, 2011, 09:45:15 PM »

It is not fundamentally different than curing a genetic disease.

....and that's been done how many times? 

I believe you will find that the answer is ZERO.  We've managed to find tests to identify people
at risk (or whose future offspring will be at risk), and to treat some symptoms of some disorders,
and to begin preventive therapy to delay the worst effects of a few, but no cures.
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« Reply #102 on: September 16, 2011, 10:00:15 PM »

It is not fundamentally different than curing a genetic disease.

....and that's been done how many times? 

I believe you will find that the answer is ZERO.  We've managed to find tests to identify people
at risk (or whose future offspring will be at risk), and to treat some symptoms of some disorders,
and to begin preventive therapy to delay the worst effects of a few, but no cures.

Look into what has been done in laboratories recently using gene therapy.  The results are extremely promising.

And besides, that's not at all my point.

You want us to research how to cure such things right?  If you look up the latest developments in gene therapy you'll know this is inevitable.  From there, looking for improvement is the next logical step.

You should also look into the developments that have been made in engineering crops and live stock that produce more food and resist disease.  Tremendous progress has been made.

Your point of not being able to replicate the technology is fading fast as well.  We've already created fully synthetic organisms.  It's just a matter of time.
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« Reply #103 on: September 16, 2011, 10:11:51 PM »

It is not fundamentally different than curing a genetic disease.

....and that's been done how many times? 

I believe you will find that the answer is ZERO.  We've managed to find tests to identify people
at risk (or whose future offspring will be at risk), and to treat some symptoms of some disorders,
and to begin preventive therapy to delay the worst effects of a few, but no cures.

Look into what has been done in laboratories recently using gene therapy.  The results are extremely promising.

And besides, that's not at all my point.

You want us to research how to cure such things right?  If you look up the latest developments in gene therapy you'll know this is inevitable.  From there, looking for improvement is the next logical step.

You should also look into the developments that have been made in engineering crops and live stock that produce more food and resist disease.  Tremendous progress has been made.

Your point of not being able to replicate the technology is fading fast as well.  We've already created fully synthetic organisms.  It's just a matter of time.
True, there are numerous promising "gene therapies", but they don't actually treat genetic
disorders - rather they treat other sorts of disease, cancer for example.... and for the most
part, while some results are promising, they haven't actually cured anything yet.

As for gen-mod food crops, they have been developed for resistance to specific pests and
diseases, but it turns out the enemies are counter-adapting, and there are indications that
those same modifications may make the crops harmful to us...

In short, once again, these people are tinkering with stuff they don't fully understand, and
until the potential consequences can at least be estimated, it's a bad idea.
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Re: from the Science Desk
« Reply #104 on: September 16, 2011, 10:53:18 PM »

In short, once again, these people are tinkering with stuff they don't fully understand, and
until the potential consequences can at least be estimated, it's a bad idea.

Cee is right, much more care need to be taken with this technology.
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