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[The Angel Raliel]

go for it....make a good and thoughtful insight into your beliefs and have the courage of your convictions

[Mockery]

Okay, here it goes.

I have nothing against gay people but I Feel like they are going against God's design because he made man for woman. In all complete honestly, there are some women I would totally fuck but I'm a girl who still need a penis.I just think it's a choice you have and if you enjoy being with someone of the same sex, go ahead! I feel all humans were born with the same sexual instinct but who knows? I could be totally wrong!

I hope I didn't offend anyone.

[The Angel Raliel]

not offended just think you are naive...homosexuality occurs in all sorts of nature....knew a pair of hooper Swans that happened to be male but had mated happily for life....I think that absolute belief in anything a book that has been re-edited for thousands of years to control society is a doubtful tool for any personal morality in this current age of enlightenment...question evrything and explore the truth, even if that truth is unpalatable to your own ideas.......

fancying the occasional girl is not the same thing as being homosexual (nor is feeling that one is trapped in the wrong gender)
and as it happens female homosexuality is almost the norm in nature.....plenty of species only just tolerate male interaction for the propagation of the species and some invertebrates have done away with males all together for millions of years

[Mockery]

Okay.

Hooray, I didn't offend anyone!

[The Angel Raliel]

well...there are plenty of people on here somewhat less ...ummm me, than me on here...so await the storm, but yes you should question why you felt the need to remove the statement possibly even more than your reason for making it....

[Mockery]

well...there are plenty of people on here somewhat less ...ummm me, than me on here...so await the storm, but yes you should question why you felt the need to remove the statement possibly even more than your reason for making it....

Okay. Thanks AR.

So back to the subject at hand.

[The Angel Raliel]

indeed

[N.U.]

Paedos should be punished, Human Centipede style.

[CottonCandy]

Being gay is not a choice -why would anyone choose to be different in such a way that ignites hatred in other people?

I don't think that it's a choice either as I couldn't "choose" it... I just don't feel anything sexual towards women, though I do recognise some women being very sexy...

Paedophiles need to be helped, though. Especially if they can't understand what they are doing wrong. Children never seek out older people and intiate sexual activity with them, so it's not consensual in any way, even if the age barrier would only be a taboo...

[Agonistes]

it used to anger me when people wpould say homosexuality is a choice, but it's that empathy thing again.  i can't reasonably expect someone to have an educated opinion on something they don't feel, and, maybe for them, heterosexuality WAS a choice. 

[CottonCandy]

it used to anger me when people wpould say homosexuality is a choice, but it's that empathy thing again.  i can't reasonably expect someone to have an educated opinion on something they don't feel, and, maybe for them, heterosexuality WAS a choice. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJtjqLUHYoY

(how do you tag youtube links on this board, again?)

[The Angel Raliel]

I think I somehow lost a very long and eloquent speech from this thread....sadly I really cannot be bothered to repeat it

[Pope Totalfrog]

Okay, here it goes.

I have nothing against gay people but I Feel like they are going against God's design because he made man for woman. In all complete honestly, there are some women I would totally fuck but I'm a girl who still need a penis.I just think it's a choice you have and if you enjoy being with someone of the same sex, go ahead! I feel all humans were born with the same sexual instinct but who knows? I could be totally wrong!

I hope I didn't offend anyone.

You are pretty offensive. I don't think it comes from a place of hate, I'll put it nicely and say it comes from naivety.

Sometimes it is better to learn about things you don't understand rather than going in and making bold faced statements like you do. You compare being gay to being a pedophile and expect no one to be offended. Then when they are you feign shock and delete your comment?

I'm starting to think you are trolling for attention. This isn't the first time you've said something ridiculous and have apparently been surprised when it caused controversy.

[BB Gun-it]

Okay, here it goes.

I have nothing against gay people but I Feel like they are going against God's design because he made man for woman. In all complete honestly, there are some women I would totally fuck but I'm a girl who still need a penis.I just think it's a choice you have and if you enjoy being with someone of the same sex, go ahead! I feel all humans were born with the same sexual instinct but who knows? I could be totally wrong!

I hope I didn't offend anyone.

So what you're saying then is that you believe gay people go against "God's design" but pedophiles don't? By your logic, God designed people to be attracted to people with which procreation is possible. Procreation is not (typically) possible with children, so how are the two scenarios any different? The only choice anyone has is whether or not to act upon their sexual desires, be those acts with members of the same sex or acts with children.

Gay people just have it easier because they're attracted to people who can consent.

I know you're not condemning gay people for choosing to act on their desires with people who have similar desires, don't get me wrong, but I think it is incredibly naive to think that we have any choice in the matter of what we're attracted to, above the choice to act on it. Additionally, if that was the case, pedophiles could simply choose to be attracted to adults, instead; a sentiment which you've already said you don't agree with.



As for the discussion on pedophilia, I do not believe that pedophiles should be criminally prosecuted unless they've acted on their desires. Once they've acted on their desires, rehabilitation should be sought but all opportunity for them to commit a repeat offence should be removed. This includes the production and consumption of child pornography, because the demand for the material is what ultimately supports the continual exploitation of children.

[BB Gun-it]

Being gay is not a choice -why would anyone choose to be different in such a way that ignites hatred in other people?

See, I take some measure of issue with this sentiment - I agree, it's not a choice, but I feel like it's interpreted by a vast majority of straight people as "we all want to be straight, really, we just can't make ourselves!"

I don't want to be straight. I don't want to be discriminated against, but I am happy with who I am and the life I lead and I know so many queer people who feel the same. We make the choice to act on our desires instead of practising celibacy, but if I could really, truly choose my desires, I'd choose to be queer.

I can't choose. Bottom line. But I can still love what I've been given.

(Sorry to double post)