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Re: political lolz
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2011, 05:58:02 PM »

no. we don't. the math has already been done on this: currently, people stop paying into SS on any income above about $108k. raise that to $180k (or better yet, remove the cap altogether) and the problem disappears.

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you replace the problem with another.  Then more cash would go to bad investments.

People are living longer!  Why not work longer if you can't afford to retire on your own money?

Furthermore, I don't see why people who are able should not have the option of just saving for their own retirement.  SS was originally supposed to just be a safety net, not a general fund for everyone whether they need it or not.  Got a close friend on SSD (social security disability).  I'd be okay with some of my taxes going to that but I still want to be able to invest my own share of the general social security fund how I see fit.  Chile came up with a good way of letting young people do that.

...So basically what I want to see is you can just pay a smaller SS fee that just goes to needy people and you are free to put the rest of what you'd have to pay in whatever fund you want, or just spend it on booze...

what bad investments would those be? SS funds are backed by US T-bills - by far the safest investment there is. As far as the Chilean plan goes, it was decimated by the 2008 financial collapse.

Riskier stocks don't just earn more on a best case scenario, they earn more on average.  It is easy to bash the stock market now while it is in so much trouble but if you take a long planning horizon (15-20 years or more) stocks run circles around it.  I might have another 30 or so years before I retire so I know I will be better off with nothing but stock.
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Re: political lolz
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2011, 02:34:00 PM »

We all know that modern culture is all about the Spectacle, where of course not only is politics not immune from it but is one of its main components.

So - Herman Cain.  'The Artist Formerly Known as Herman Cain'.  Is (was) his campaign nothing but a brilliant piece of performance art?

Take a gander at what Rachel Maddow has to say about this amazing art project:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/45171907#45171907
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Re: political lolz
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2011, 10:10:57 PM »

The Daily Show played the clip of Herman Cain quoting the pokemon movie in his farewell speech...

Though there is nothing objectively wrong with that Republicans need classes in how to make yourself harder to make fun of.
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Re: political lolz
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2011, 11:43:27 AM »

Rick Perry, trying to save his floundering campaign, trotted out a gay-bashing TV ad.

He and his advisers didn't think things through during production, however...



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Re: political lolz
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2011, 12:35:22 PM »

Democrat. Republican. It doesn't matter. I've gotten fed up with the whole damned thing. Neither side seems interested in representing anyone other than their corporate donors.  The last straw for me was the bill being pushed through congress that declares the United States a war zone, which allows the military to arrest American citizens in the same manner they detain terrorists. Both Republicans and Democrats have voted for this. To me, that's martial law. This isn't a "Socialism vs. Capitalism" argument.  Considering the US has been a mixed economy (meaning partially socialist and partially capitalist) for almost 100 years, there's nothing wrong with socialism (in part), but what we are driving towards is fascism. The last time we had a global economic meltdown like this (the Great Depression) is the last time fascism reared it's ugly head. History has a nasty way of repeating itself, but I think the US is on the wrong side of it this time. Think about it for just a second.

A. A violent group is allowed to operate for years with little more than lip service.
B. We have a discrete group that can be singled out (Muslims).
C. Corporate interests are firmly in bed with our government.
D. Massive economic downturn, breeding malcontent with the masses (Read: Occupy movements)

All four of these conditions have existed in every nation-state that has gone fascist. All that is missing is a charismatic leader who comes from Group A that can attract the resources of Group C while blaming D on B.

This really isn't that much of a leap.
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Re: political lolz
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2011, 12:52:46 PM »

it is time for our two-party system to go the way of the dodo.


personally i say why hide the capitalism?  let the corporations battle it out without a front-man; whatever style feels right; i personally vote for gladatorial.  this next election will be a contest between bank of america and the hershey's company.  i am firmly entrenched in the chocolate party.
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Re: political lolz
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2011, 01:26:17 PM »

Vote the middle ground; vote Reese's Peanut Butter cups.

"Hey you got you socialism in my capitalism. No, you got your capitalism in my socialism."
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Re: political lolz
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2011, 02:17:10 PM »

i'm already advocating a split ticket by combining milk and chocolate.  i would like to see more peanut butter in the military, however.
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Re: political lolz
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2011, 11:47:46 PM »

i'm already advocating a split ticket by combining milk and chocolate.  i would like to see more peanut butter in the military, however.
I can support chocolate, but I prefer peanut butter to balance the ticket...
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Re: political lolz
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2011, 10:06:46 AM »

and now today, on this anniversary of the Bill of Rights being ratified, Obama signs into law something that is defacto martial law: <a href="http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-detention-veto-defense-853/" target="_blank">http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-detention-veto-defense-
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After passing in the House of Representatives earlier this year, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 went before the US Senate last week, where it was met with overwhelming approval.  In the days before, the Obama administration issued a policy statement  on November 17 saying explicitly that the president would veto the bill,  as it would challenge “the president’s critical authorities to collect intelligence incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the nation.”
Opposition from the White House seemed all but rampant until RT revealed earlier this week that Senator Carl Levin told lawmakers that the legislation was altered because “the  administration asked us to remove the language which says that US  citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section.”

Guys... we've lost our Republic.
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Re: political lolz
« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2011, 02:41:11 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/fewnagginsbegrand

I don't know if it will be as funny is you're not Irish (probably not), but the photos on this facebook page never fail to have me in tears laughing.
Political Lols at their best.

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Re: political lolz
« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2011, 03:34:37 PM »

I'm not LOLing about politics today. I'm weeping for the Republic.  :'(
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Re: political lolz
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2011, 03:07:58 AM »

I'm not LOLing about politics today. I'm weeping for the Republic.  :'(

right there with you.  sic transit gloria roma.
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Re: political lolz
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2011, 03:55:37 AM »

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