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[Astica]

http://news.msn.co.nz/article/8298079/boy-12-shot-dead-little-brother-over-chores
O_O

What's worse is that this isn't the first time this has happened. Surely by the age of 12, a child should understand the consequences of shooting somebody? What do you think should be done about kids who kill others? Or the parents of kids who shoot other kids? Do you think cases like this suggests that killing is in some peoples nature, or do you think behaviour like this is more likely learned or influenced by experience?

[lentower]

why varies from case to case

as should what is done

[JohnnyDBBUK]

Civilains should not have guns in their fucking homes.
so tired of hearing this crap in the news.

Guns don't kill people, Dumbass legal loopholes do. Right to BEAR ARMS!!! feck off.
The English aren't coming anymore. Keep the guns in the trained military/police forces hands and screw the constitution.
Timmy should have been shot with a nerf dart not a fucking bullet. 

[imaginary friend]

"right to bear arms" is part of the 2nd half of that particular amendment.

people always forget about the first half.

#@!

[Astica]

^ don't believe I've heard the first half. Does it contradict the second?

Also, I tend to agree with Johnny. Also Marmoset. If you have to have a loaded gun in the house, don't leave it where the children can access it.

[JohnnyDBBUK]

eddie says it best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsN0FCXw914

[85283-071]

Civilians should certainly have guns.

[Pope Totalfrog]

If you have a gun in your home and you leave in reach of children then you should be held responsible for what that child does with it.

Alternatively you could just not have guns in your home.

[Savannah]

I think individual weapons should be forbidden.

Times changed. Now calling the cups in a dangerous position is a far faster solution than grabbing your gun and having a gun-battle with a psycho attacker.

And not only for children, it's also dangereous for adult people. 2 years ago, my uncle got into the jail and stayed there for 3 months. The reason is: he was drinking with his close friends at his warehouse after the midnight. An old friend of him arrived which made my uncle angry because they were not talking to eachothers since he didn't pay back the money he had borrowed from my uncle a very long time.

Though my uncle says he doesn't remember-he was highly drunk- his friends say they weren't even storming with eachothers. They were just joking around and making innuendos. Then my uncle held the gun againist him and unlocked the safety but his friends got scared and thought he was about to shot the other guy. One of his closest friends jumped at him to stop him and get the gun back. And while they were falling down the gun got mistakenly fired.

Conclusion: He injured one of his very best friends and he doesn't even remember how he did it. Getting that drunk, he might even kill the other guy on purpose. Lucky that his friend didn't file charges againist him so he only got 3 months of imprisonment.

Btw his wife was pregnant with twins, she had a terrible 3 months.

Conclusion2: Don't mess with a drunk guy who has a gun.

Conclusion3: Don't drink that much if you have a gun.

Conclusion4: Don't be a jerk and sell your gun.

[JohnnyDBBUK]

Civilians should certainly have guns.

in the words of Madonna, JUSITFY 

[imaginary friend]

^ don't believe I've heard the first half. Does it contradict the second?

2nd Amendment in its entirety:  "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

#@!

[CeeGBee]

^ don't believe I've heard the first half. Does it contradict the second?

2nd Amendment in its entirety:  "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

#@!

IMHO....

First:  The Second Amendment CLEARLY does not refer to personal arms, but rather to the States' Militia,
which may not be disbanded or disarmed by the potentially-oppressive central government that was being
created by the Constitution...

Second: If "The Founding Fathers" had thought for one second that some future government would try to
disarm individual citizens, they would have included a right to personal arms, I would speculate it might have
been part of the 6th Amendment. 

Keep in mind, there was no 9-1-1 in 1781, and even today, depending on where you live, it can take quite
some time for The Law to arrive.  If there's time to wait for the cops, that't the way to go, but if someone's
in my house, threatening me, he probably doesn't feel like waiting around for 'rm.