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[lentower]

The Sydney, Australia, Dresden Dolls concert to be Webcast!!! Sat 7 Jan 2012
(For those who missed the tweets and facebooks.)

http://www.moshcam.com/gig/dresdendolls.aspx

Will be morning in Europe.
Early AM in the USA.

Not clear from the webcast/websight,
if it will be archived (i.e. playable from the web at a later time/date).
(Brian has since posted it will be archived.)

[RiverVox]

Thanks Len! I did miss the tweet.

[lentower]

Thanks Len! I did miss the tweet.

It's worth reading Brian's facebook wall.  ; - }
https://www.facebook.com/brianviglionemusic

One or a few items a day (sometimes none ; - ),
and more focused than Amanda's tweets.

They are such a study in contrasts. ; - }

[lentower]

I miss the pre-Farceborg, pre-Twitter days.

This forum was THE PLACE to find all the news,
including fan's input.
MySpace just didn't serve the fan base.
A few used the d.dolls' livejournal, but not many.

Now, it's in dozen of places, and much harder to even try to follow all of it.

So, I try to post the more important bits here.
And really APPRECIATE others who do too.

I wish more sboxers did this.

I keep reminding people off the sbox,
to come and join us.


Also provides a sort of centralized archive of the
"important" stuff.

[lentower]

Going to be on
http://www.partyontheinternet.com/
too!!!

Increases the chance there will a fan viewable archive!

[lentower]

Brian saids it will be archived online !!!
https://www.facebook.com/brianviglionemusic/posts/275570362496772

[lentower]

team amanda finally publishes about the webcast.
points to a worldwide chart of what time the webcast starts where you are!
http://www.amandapalmer.net/2012/01/06/webcast-the-dresden-dolls-in-sydney/

[lentower]

The webcast has started.  Been up and down.  Looks like soundcheck is going on.

Off to sleep for me.

I'll enjoy it later!  ; - }

[Pope Totalfrog]

Should start officially in about 2 hours.

[Pope Totalfrog]

It was a great show. Got a bit weird when a girl latched onto Amanda's neck during Mein Herr.

[lentower]

Yuck!

At least the girl who accosted her on a balcony four years ago at the Norva,
didn't leave a mark.

[soldsoul4foos]

I haven't been keeping as of late.  Is there any talk of the DD coming to the states, particularly Boston? 

*crosses fingers* 

 

[nonibet]

Am I the only person who's uncomfortable with how Amanda got that hickey at the Sydney gig?  To me it seemed to be just on the wrong side of sexual assault...I mean, that girl actually left a mark on Amanda's body by performing an uninvited sexual act.  That just icks me completely.  

I get that Amanda is open and loving and joyful and loves her fans a lot and she just givesgivesgives to us.  But there's still a line and, for me, this incident crossed it.  

It's not okay because it was girl-on-girl.  
It's not okay because Amanda has shown us lots more of her body than just her neck.  
It's not okay because it was "all in fun".  
It's not okay because the girl was drunk.

It makes me think of the old "AFP is not your bitch" discussion.  Amanda is not our bitch in terms of us dictating her artistic direction, and she is also not our bitch in terms of being able to waltz up and do what we like to her body.  Sure, hickeys are generally viewed as harmless leftovers from teenage making out.  But think a little bit more deeply about what they represent, which is the marking of ownership or territory on someone; it's akin to scrawling "SAM WAS HERE".  And Amanda is NOT open season for fans to do that to her!

I'm also uncomfortable with Amanda's reaction and (to quote a friend) "the praise for the spirit in which she took it".  I get that she's a professional performer and she didn't want to let this incident get in the way of her doing her job.  I also get that she understands this girl is (presumably) a fan and (misguidedly) didn't mean any harm.  When it was happening, she handled it beautifully - being nice, trying to laugh it off, saying "she's kind of cute", and then getting on with the song and the rest of the show once the girl had been detached.  

But afterwards...I'm not loving the phrase "thrilled yet violated".  I do love that Amanda is incredibly strong and I genuinely believe it's possible that she's really not bothered by what happened.  But... "violated" is an incredibly emotive word that seems to be a giant flashing indicator in the other direction.

I guess what I'm trying to say is this: Amanda, if you're genuinely cool with this happening, then that's awesome and I'm glad.  But if you're not, then I hope that you are brave enough to say so.  No one will think any less of you for calling out a fan on bad behaviour.  You are not our bitch.  

(Disclaimer to all of the above: This is just my opinion.  In no way should this be taken as "Amanda must feel this way" etc).

[lentower]

Am I the only person who's uncomfortable with how Amanda got that hickey at the Sydney gig?  To me it seemed to be just on the wrong side of sexual assault...I mean, that girl actually left a mark on Amanda's body by performing an uninvited sexual act.  That just icks me completely. 

I get that Amanda is open and loving and joyful and loves her fans a lot and she just givesgivesgives to us.  But there's still a line and, for me, this incident crossed it. 

It's not okay because it was girl-on-girl. 
It's not okay because Amanda has shown us lots more of her body than just her neck. 
It's not okay because it was "all in fun". 
It's not okay because the girl was drunk.

It makes me think of the old "AFP is not your bitch" discussion.  Amanda is not our bitch in terms of us dictating her artistic direction, and she is also not our bitch in terms of being able to waltz up and do what we like to her body.  Sure, hickeys are generally viewed as harmless leftovers from teenage making out.  But think a little bit more deeply about what they represent, which is the marking of ownership or territory on someone; it's akin to scrawling "SAM WAS HERE".  And Amanda is NOT open season for fans to do that to her!

I'm also uncomfortable with Amanda's reaction and (to quote a friend) "the praise for the spirit in which she took it".  I get that she's a professional performer and she didn't want to let this incident get in the way of her doing her job.  I also get that she understands this girl is (presumably) a fan and (misguidedly) didn't mean any harm.  When it was happening, she handled it beautifully - being nice, trying to laugh it off, saying "she's kind of cute", and then getting on with the song and the rest of the show once the girl had been detached. 

But afterwards...I'm not loving the phrase "thrilled yet violated".  I do love that Amanda is incredibly strong and I genuinely believe it's possible that she's really not bothered by what happened.  But... "violated" is an incredibly emotive word that seems to be a giant flashing indicator in the other direction.

I guess what I'm trying to say is this: Amanda, if you're genuinely cool with this happening, then that's awesome and I'm glad.  But if you're not, then I hope that you are brave enough to say so.  No one will think any less of you for calling out a fan on bad behaviour.  You are not our bitch. 

(Disclaimer to all of the above: This is just my opinion.  In no way should this be taken as "Amanda must feel this way" etc).

What this gal did was wrong.

Amanda's tweets on this, as well as the picture she tweeted, made it clear:
Amanda is NOT OK with this.

A similar incident happened at the last concert of the Winter Tour four(?) years ago.  At the Norva.  On a balcony.  No marks.  And it was very quick.  I saw the fan go over, and it seemed funny, but my view angle didn't let me see the actual assault from 20 feet or so away.  Was by a well-known fan from the early days, who was too drunk to know better.  Apologies were offered and accepted.  Amanda blogged about it.  The blog should still be there.  
Amanda was NOT OK about this earlier time either.  

These are the only two fan assaults I know of.  

When I've seen Amanda do these audience walk performances, she always have had a member of her tour staff (not house security (no way, someone who does not understand Amanda and her fans can provide this kind of security)) accompany her.  They were there for her both these times.

[lentower]

I haven't been keeping as of late.  Is there any talk of the DD coming to the states, particularly Boston? 

*crosses fingers* 

 

None that I know of.

And of places they have toured in the past,
Europe has been deprived the longest.

And there are lot's of countries,
that would love a first d.dolls concert.

Granted Amanda desire to avoid Winter,
it will be interesting to see when and where the next reunion tour is.