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Looking good, Shadowbox!
« on: February 14, 2012, 05:50:40 PM »

Spam is still spamtasic. Board timeouts are still timing out. Occasional crashes are still happening.

GREAT JOB!!!  O0
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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 06:22:25 PM »

We aim for a sense of comfortable continuity...   O0
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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 06:27:27 PM »

noted.

as N.U. knows,
some of this occurs due to the way
the moderators deal with
persistent repeat spam bots.  

the hardcore spam stomping tool can
temporarily prevent access to the sbox.
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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2012, 08:10:09 PM »

Im still waiting for a solution to avoid them registering. You said to avoid installing plugins to make maintence easier. Ok, fair enough - bloating pluggable softwares with dozens of plugins make updates a nightmare. But a simple Q/A plugins will stop bots from registering. Stopped on my board - same SMF - why wouldnt stop here? 
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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 09:51:30 AM »

Because there is a master list of priorities and this board is nowhere near the top of it, and Len KNOWS this is true.
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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2012, 11:22:37 AM »

Because there is a master list of priorities and this board is nowhere near the top of it, and Len KNOWS this is true.

Not true.

But N.U. isn't saying anything new in this thread.
I've been around this wheel with him before,
both in posts and P.M.s

Thanks again to him for all the spam removing he did when he was a mod.

Im still waiting for a solution to avoid them registering. You said to avoid installing plugins to make maintence easier. Ok, fair enough - bloating pluggable softwares with dozens of plugins make updates a nightmare. But a simple Q/A plugins will stop bots from registering. Stopped on my board - same SMF - why wouldnt stop here? 
I don't see why this suggestion has been ignored/shunned. It's a damn good idea. One little plug in is not going to cause a huge issue, and will solve so many more problems.

It been neither ignored nor shunned. 
Just not commented on enuf, by the Admins and others on Team Amanda.

Both Sean and Hayley, our Admins, care deeply about this part of the Punk Cabaret community.
They hate the spam more than most here.
They both spend time daily taking care of the sbox.

Team Amanda is also well into the production of A's next album with the Grand Theft Orchestra.
There is lot of work that has to be done to position it for success,
even before the tracks come out of the studio.



I've talked enough with Sean about the current state of our sbox's SMF installation,
to understand that installing a Q/A plugin as part of the registration process is not straightforward,
and has significant risks.

spider jerusalem: though the forum you use and our sbox both use SMF.
The sbox is stressing the SMF software in ways it hasn't been tested for.
Including interactions between account deletion and banning,
as well as unusually large number of threads, posts, users, spams, etc.

It does not surprise me that the box is low on the list of priorities, seeing as we're pretty much self contained and most of us wander into the news section quite occasionally. I will say, however, that the way business is conducted in one area of an industry reflects upon that entire industry as a whole.  And I don't mean I won't be trusting other forums to be efficient.

It would help to try to attract more fans here, new and old. 
I understand that the spam makes being here unattractive to some,
and to some, promoting a forum with spam is a non-starter.

It would help if the fans here,
did spend more time in the top third,
and support the artists who pay for and sponsor this forum.

For example,
how many of you have voted even once:
http://www.theshadowbox.net/forum/index.php?topic=35980.0
? ? ?

You can do nothing but enjoy the no-money/no-charge ride here,
or you can pay your hosts back by supporting them.
Your choice.
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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2012, 01:34:07 PM »

oh, so now we're being extorted? PUH-LEASE.
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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2012, 01:58:59 PM »

how many of you have voted even once:
http://www.theshadowbox.net/forum/index.php?topic=35980.0
Erm, I did. Just because you're the only one to say 'I voted!' on the thread doesn't mean nobody else is doing so without the need to be praised for it. Is it any wonder people don't go up there when there is hardly any actual discussion going on? It's just 'look at this' 'look at that' fair enough I look at it, but just because I don't go 'this is awesome I'm totally doing this!11!!' doesn't mean I don't deserve a spam-free experience on the box, or anybody else. If its donations to the sbox you wanted, I would gladly give some money if it would make you sit up and realise that the plug-in suggestion is worth trying, just don't try and trip me with the 'freeloader' guilt for not spending all my time in the news section spending the little money i have on every project going when there are more interesting things going on elsewhere. Is entertaining oneself not the main purpose of the Internet after all?

Sarah:

I wasn't pointing at you specifically.

You just inspired some things to add to this discussion.



I'm bumping the Phoeix contest thread to:
 * remind people they can vote more than once.
 * have it recently change for people who don't come by often,
so they will have a chance to see it, and hopefully vote.

I've also posted this Phoenix contest,
where I have home pages and web presence.

And will probably bump those as I re-visit those web sights.
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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2012, 11:32:35 AM »

oh, so now we're being extorted? PUH-LEASE.

one H

one T

exhorted

which is certainly part of the sbox ; - }
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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2012, 03:24:15 PM »

Your implication that the board hasn't been fixed because the posters haven't voted on a dumb twitter poll is extortion. I used the right word the first time.
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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 03:30:01 PM »

^ sigh ** sigh
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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2012, 03:44:58 PM »

^ sigh ** sigh

I know.  It is a bummer that the thing you've been pushing so mightily this past week is nothing but a dumb twitter poll. 

It would be a big un-sigh if it were something important like Best Fucking Punk Cabaret Singer in the Entire Fucking Punk Cabaret Universe, or some such.

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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2012, 04:14:10 PM »

^ sigh ** sigh

I know.  It is a bummer that the thing you've been pushing so mightily this past week is nothing but a dumb twitter poll.  

It would be a big un-sigh if it were something important like Best Fucking Punk Cabaret Singer in the Entire Fucking Punk Cabaret Universe, or some such.

** sigh

what's important is where the twitter contest is:

Amanda's hometown alternative paper in Boston

she solo & with Brian has won some category in that paper
(and a few categories some years.)
most of the past decade plus.

keeping visibility at home is important in the Music Biz.
(AFPwire doesn't ask for help with every poll and contest.
only a few.  & imho, the important ones.)

I'm bumping it everyday, for those who check in less
frequently.
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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2012, 04:58:18 PM »

For example,
how many of you have voted even once:
http://www.theshadowbox.net/forum/index.php?topic=35980.0
? ? ?

You can do nothing but enjoy the no-money/no-charge ride here,
or you can pay your hosts back by supporting them.
Your choice.
So buying the merch/music/tickets, street teaming (which quite a few people have been giving up their time to do lately here in Oz) and doing all we can to support AFP, Brian and the Dolls is all for naught if we don't vote in an online poll?

What selfish bastards we all are.
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Re: Looking good, Shadowbox!
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2012, 06:24:24 PM »

Gotta agree with the cynics here, Len...

I really see no connection whatever between Amanda's again-this-year (woo-hoo)
award-nomination and the spambot-filters (or lack thereof).
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