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[Savannah]

It's sad all you see in what we say is whining.

Couldn't agree more.

Yeah, if you say it would take time to solve the problem completely, it's ok. We all are able to understand it.
Even the most patient man of the planet would get fed up with these spambots in just a week, we also understand it.

But when you say "You just see the spambots and get angry, i'm the one who keeps dealing with them voluntarily all the time. You don't pay that much attention to the poll, you're having a no-money ride here, etc." it becomes offending. People here are just trying to find a solution, nobody aims to run you guys or this forum down.

[N.U.]

It's sad all you see in what we say is whining.

You DO realize, len, that downplaying valid frustrations only makes those who are frustrated even more frustrated, right? Hayley answered more in one post, even without specifics, than you have this entire thread.

It might be something to think about.

[lentower]

Hayley said nothing new in that post,
that she and Sean hadn't posted here in the past.

It's sad that you, N.U.,
who is so concerned with this issue,
can't get that.

A polite:
"Any chance that spam on the sbox will be fixed sooner,
than when Team Amanda is done with this album?"
would have be so much classier and civilized.

So sad that you prefer to instead
whine, and Whine, AND WHINE.
whine, and Whine, AND WHINE
whine, and Whine, AND WHINE
whine, and Whine, AND WHINE
whine, and Whine, AND WHINE
whine, and Whine, AND WHINE
whine, and Whine, AND WHINE
whine, and Whine, AND WHINE
whine, and Whine, AND WHINE.

[Savannah]

Sometimes people's choice of words and style of talking goes too far from what they really meant to say.

Nevermind, we don't have any right to say something about it, because we are whining freerider janglers. We don't deserve to speak our minds.

And oh, Karen Millen dresses are so stylish! Yay!

[Pope Totalfrog]

I can't decide if whining about perceived whining is irony or not.

[Cherry Chesterfield]

I can't decide if whining about perceived whining is irony or not.

Maybe.

But it is ironic that Len seems to have become one of the baby grinches that he once proclaimed was, like, bad for the health of the Shadowbox.   

http://www.theshadowbox.net/forum/index.php?topic=1518.msg36269#msg36269

[lentower]

It's not fair play to complain about my whining,
and not also complain about N.U.'s.

But for what ever reason,
some of you seem to feel it's OK to do so.
To be unfair to me.

To behave in an unbalanced, biased manner.

I obviously feel this uneven treatment is wrong.

Even more so for N.U.'s lack or respect for Sean & Hayley.


I will go on whining about N.U.'s whining about
the spam and the Admins, as long as he whines.


From my response to a private exchange about this:

Freedom without compassion.
Freedom without responsibility.
Freedom being used for narrow-minded self-interest.
Is not Freedom at all.
...
...
Even if you prefix "Freedom" with
Punk Cabaret is "


The spam doesn't bother me.
I just read around it here (before I was a Mod),
(you see far less of it, if you use
http://www.theshadowbox.net/forum/index.php?action=unreadreplies,
though that doesn't get new posts in threads, you haven't posted in.
And much of the spam is in General Discussion,
which has so little non-spam posted in it recently ...)
other forums,
my spam boxes on my email accounts,
...


Enough for now.  
(Though there are several other points worth making.
Maybe later.)

[N.U.]

Complaining about valid issues isn't whining, especially when the board admins acknowledge that it is a significant issue, but it's okay if you think that it is whining, len.

Kind of telling, really.

[lentower]

You've gone on about it

at length

repeatedly

using non-constructive language

being disrespectful of both Hayley and Sean

etc.

etc.

etc.

[Cherry Chesterfield]

From my response to a private exchange about this:

Freedom without compassion.
Freedom without responsibility.
Freedom being used for narrow-minded self-interest.
Is not Freedom at all.

Wrong.  [these things are] probably not utopian, or even punk cabaretian, but freedom does not, and never has, intrinsically included compassion, responsibility or lack of narrow-minded self-interest.

[lentower]

From my response to a private exchange about this:

Freedom without compassion.
Freedom without responsibility.
Freedom being used for narrow-minded self-interest.
Is not Freedom at all.

Wrong.  [these things are] probably not utopian, or even punk cabaretian, but freedom does not, and never has, intrinsically included compassion, responsibility or lack of narrow-minded self-interest.

We use different definitions.

Your's often unravels the social fabric.

Mine usually builds it.

btw, Thomas Jefferson understood the point I'm making here.
(psst, the primary author of the US Declaration of Indepence in 1776.)

[Cherry Chesterfield]

From my response to a private exchange about this:

Freedom without compassion.
Freedom without responsibility.
Freedom being used for narrow-minded self-interest.
Is not Freedom at all.

Wrong.  [these things are] probably not utopian, or even punk cabaretian, but freedom does not, and never has, intrinsically included compassion, responsibility or lack of narrow-minded self-interest.

We use different definitions.

Your's often unravels the social fabric.

Mine usually builds it.

btw, Thomas Jefferson understood the point I'm making here.
(psst, the primary author of the US Declaration of Indepence in 1776.)

Well, aren't we being the condescending twit.  Go fucking "psst" yourself.

I understand your point but, like I told you, I disagree with it. 

"The" definition, not "my" definition is simply "freedom is being able to do what you want to do."

By the way, what does "freedom" have to do with this thread anyway?  You've hijacked it, Len.  Isn't that, like, against your sbox code?

[lentower]

It's quite germaine to this thread.

Thread evoluiton is what it is.
At time it makes it harder for threads to be useful resources later on

[CeeGBee]

psst, Len, TJ had the free time to be all enlightened and shit because he had slaves to work his farms.....

Perhaps his definition of "freedom" wasn't quite as altruistic as some would suggest.

[returns to staying out of it...]

[N.U.]

If I have been disrespectful of Sean and/or Hayley, then, as free adults, wouldn't it be for them to address and not you, len?