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Re: They want something.
« Reply #75 on: June 02, 2008, 08:36:45 PM »

I often wonder what separates me from my cousins/family
We grew up in the same environment, attended the same schools, had the same opportunity.
In typical outcast fashion, I was the nerdy one that liked "headbanger music" and was always reading. and being weird or whatever.  
I am not trying to toot my own horn b/c I have a intellectual inferiority complex myself.
Especially around these here parts.  "Is this post going to be the final post when all the shadowboxers exile me into dummyland?"
But in comparison to my family you would think I was Stephen Hawking.

There are members of my family that dont know how to write out a check or have basic living skills to take care of themselves.  Let alone basic knowledge about the world.
But I am sure they all know who Tila Tequila is.
It is both sad and infuriating.

I just dont know why I went in another direction.
Is it something inborn?  I just dont know.
I know it sounds like I think I am 'better than' but if one doesnt have a choice, does it really mean anything?


I don't like my Own Ignorance in areas like Nature, etc.


Oh man, I sometimes get really worked up and angry because I dont know---- EVERYTHING.
I really beat myself up when I do not understand something. 
I was reading about some theory Einstein had and I could not understand it.  And I whining to my boyfriend at the time "Waaah,  why am I so stupid??"
And he was like "Um, why are you comparing yourself to Einstein?"

I am so crazy .  I have this standard for myself that I feel like I should be able to give ,at the very least, a brief summary on EVERY subject in the world!
But my brain is very limited.
And sometimes (i.e. a lot of times)  I fill my down time with porno and celebrity gossip.

Well, there are certain things that you should know ... 4 months ago when the semester was just begining there was this guy who seemed very very smart, i thought "damn, this guy is too intelligent, he should know everything about calculus, physics, chemistry and programming" well he wasn´t that type of "intelligent person" he actually didn´t even knew how to graphic a function (a simple 2 dimensions graphic) ... well he gave up to Biomedical Engineering in 2 weeks and i was like ... wtf .... i thought ... "why does he goes to biomedical engineering school if he doesn´t know a shit about calculus or even basic algebra, he is an idion-stupid".

2 months later while talking to a friend he told me o do you remember this guy who left the school in 2 weeks and i was like ... yes i remember him. My friend told me that he went to philosophy and that he was kicking ass so hard that he was maybe the best of the class, i realized that there are certain things that you should know depending on what you do, you can expect for people to know some things.

About the Einstein frustration thing... i have the same issue, when i can´t understand something i just get all frustrated trying to understan something, until i understand it i can rest.
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Re: They want something.
« Reply #76 on: June 02, 2008, 09:22:34 PM »

I remember very vividly my father trying to explain Space and Time and the theory of relativity to me one night. Many nights, actually -- but this was the first of such conversations.

I couldn't comprehend how space doesn't have an end or beginning (age 10-13ish?)--- nor how time could change depending on gravity...

I remember tears welling up in my eyes because just for a second, just a blip of a second, i Understood. Then I lost it and went back to not understanding.
People who are blessed with the ability to understand infinity itself are curious beings, and we should be thankful that they exist. My father --and everyone brags or puts down certain family members, so excuse what I am about to say --my father is a genius. No. Not smart or talented, but a genius...that word we like to toss around too much. I am definintely Not a genius.

We two love one another, but there is recognition in the family in general that all "heavy" questions should go to Dad, as he always seems to have a wealth of knowledge no one else can compare to --but.

For instance. He would be utterly useless if caught in the jungle. He can't do very basic things --or forgets to pay attention to them...he doesn't match his clothes. He can't open a bag of chips without them all ending on the floor, and what I am trying to say is that for a man who Can understand Hawking, Einstein, Darwinism and its derivatives --he has no "common sense" at ALL. NONE.

So. To each their own with what kind of brain is deposited in their laps. I remember crying over some problem I couldn't do in Trig once and he could not understand my frustration. Yet. I am "supposed" to understand and accept his deficiencies.

Plus. Some wiring went wrong --as all of you are saying. I write a lot of bad poetry, and its been a compulsion for most of my life. My one parent doesn't understand them (i mean not a single one) -- and my father doesn't care for the more...mmm...sentimental aspects of such an undertaking.

So while I wish I knew more about Nature, and realize that I may never grasp Physics the way Mr. Genius has, I can TRY.

Plus. I'll add one more thing. You are drawn to take interest in certain subjects, and sometimes it's a short -lived interest and sometimes not. I Do think most kids in their early teens already are leaning into their own areas of interest. I don't think math should be "forced" on teens after maybe some very basics. (checkbooks, etc.) I think this because I think the kids who LIKE math/physics/science --should be allowed to shuffle along into those territories, while kids who LIKE english/humanities should be allowed that route. I'm not saying people shouldn't understand how to balance a checkbook, but after that, unless you are going into science as a profession, you don't Require algebra for your life. Therefore, while I think people should Want to be as expansive in their education as they can be -- that is a moral I have, and not a moral everyone shares.

What I am trying to end with is what Montessori schools go after -- letting kids discover their own strengths and interests without bludgeoning them into Calculus.

I think it would be interesting if someone started a thread titled "What to teach" --so I could ramble on and on and on as I just did... :violent1:
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Re: They want something.
« Reply #77 on: June 02, 2008, 09:28:59 PM »


you can't (in fairness) attack me for pointing out something simple and obvious.


I know... we're just making adjustments to our mutual understanding through articulation. I'm adding basil to your broth, not pouring it down the sink?

Especially around these here parts.  "Is this post going to be the final post when all the shadowboxers exile me into dummyland?"

Personally, I like what you have to say, and I'm arrogant, smug and very quick to correct. If the 'box was silly enough to banish you (which is not going to happen), I would just recruit you active presence on my own, overlapping, forum.

One of my sisters, who was raised in the exact same way as I was is just like them - in my immediate family she is the freak. She hates art and literature, she only reads gossip mags, isn't really into music and she follows all of the latest fashion trends.

There is no one else like me in my family. Interestingly, i think, I have been very close to a lot of people coming from a similar, odd one out, family dynamic.

I have also encountered individuals lacking a regional accent the rest of their families exhibit. I really do wonder how and why this happens.
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Re: They want something.
« Reply #78 on: June 02, 2008, 09:39:45 PM »

Tila Tequila = like Britney Spears, but with even less talent, uglier face, nice ass...  No?
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Re: They want something.
« Reply #79 on: June 02, 2008, 10:23:52 PM »

Ancient One, I am member of your forum!  I just forgot my password and I've been too lazy to request it!
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Re: They want something.
« Reply #80 on: June 02, 2008, 11:13:56 PM »

I know you are. That's why I injected the word active into the mix.

I will PM you a new, temorary password, so you can access your account. Then, you can change it to whatever you like.
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Re: They want something.
« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2008, 09:08:05 PM »

he's on to you, guys.
you'd better euthenize him.
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