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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #60 on: June 26, 2008, 12:35:26 PM »

I agree to the fact that we will never know ANYTHING for sure.

Almost a solipsist, not quite so pessimistic.
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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2008, 07:55:25 PM »

I like the idea that all posible moments in time and space exist simultaneously, and we only percieve a narrow thread of this.  I think of reality as being like an infinite ocean, all things interconnected and fluid while utterly unchanging..... while constantly in flux, time, matter, enrgy and space are like currents in the ocean but are completely a part of it and unseparatable from the whole

While there are some processes that can be said to be symmetric whether going forward or back in time, the general direction of time is in one direction. Stars emit light, things fall from "up" to "down" and not the inverse, broken mirrors don't spontaneously repair themselves etc... While things the past will have shaped the present, it is impossible that the universe can ever return to the exact state it was, say ten minutes ago.  Also, it is impossible that something that takes place in this "end" of the universe can instantaneously affect something at the end (due to the speed of light restriction), which is what the idea of an interconnected and unchanging reality seems to be suggesting.

you have to consider the possibility that not only is every moment simultaneously occurring, but every state that every particle of matter has or will be in, is existing, all at once.  perhaps, everywhere.  That the only thing that makes any distinction between this huge soup of atoms and events is our perception. 

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quantum theory states that subatomic particles are in a state of uncertainty "until" they are observed.  that field doesn't particularly endorse the "as above, so below" assumption... but I do, to an extent.  As perception effects subatomic particles, what is happening, collectively, to the entire mass of trillions^trillions of particles that are observed by the naked eye?  Makes a little more sense that it's harder to have influence over something larger, and that probability is averaged in super-huge quantity in the case of everyday objects.
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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #62 on: June 27, 2008, 02:07:29 AM »

Certainly. Our natural relationship with material reality gives us time as a by-product. OK, to be clear, that is my theory. It does present a way of looking at it though. For all practical purposes, time is linear and we move through it in one direction. Should we seek to understand the nature of time and reality, we need to discard all such assumptions.

If our relationship with time and matter were different, stars might not emit light. They might absorb it. They might rely on it, co-exist with it... who knows?
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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2008, 02:50:29 AM »

A neutrons star can absorb light, everything we can see absorb light (i think) that´s how we see things. A black hole will just swallow all the light as the hungry bitch it is.
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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2008, 11:49:31 AM »

Or maybe our perception doesn't affect matter, at all, and all matter, as we know it, including the smaller particles we study, are just our own creations.  Why, when I dream, I can study smaller and smaller things.  I can observe anything, in infinite detail.  Where is the information coming from?

If there is no chaos, and just a very, very large pattern, is there really uncertainty?  Perhaps everything is certain, yet some things are simply imperceivable.  They weren't meant to be looked at, or rather, we weren't made to look at them.  The data we receive is just our mind's interpretation of the state of the particle.
If there is no chaos, and just a very, very large pattern, and perception does affect matter, then our perceptions would be moving many things, within and without the universe.
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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2008, 12:56:54 PM »

Perhaps everything is certain, yet some things are simply imperceivable. 

ah, good observation/question. uncertainty results from not being able to interpret and manipulate a pattern. uncertainty and chaos are practically synonymous.

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If there is no chaos, and just a very, very large pattern, and perception does affect matter, then our perceptions would be moving many things, within and without the universe.

is this realization not the beginning of "freedom"? i think it is.  :)

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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2008, 11:52:05 PM »

A neutrons star can absorb light, everything we can see absorb light (i think) that´s how we see things. A black hole will just swallow all the light as the hungry bitch it is.

just noticed this post.  it's the opposite.  We can see things when they reflect light.  We see what they don't absorb, and color depends upon that.
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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #67 on: August 19, 2008, 11:57:54 PM »

A neutrons star can absorb light, everything we can see absorb light (i think) that´s how we see things. A black hole will just swallow all the light as the hungry bitch it is.

just noticed this post.  it's the opposite.  We can see things when they reflect light.  We see what they don't absorb, and color depends upon that.

Well, objects absorb "certain" frequency then reflect what they can´t absorb, you are totally right, my post was a little bit... incomplete.
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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #68 on: August 20, 2008, 02:30:22 AM »

it is theoritically possible for there to be some sort of matter that entirely reflects the full spectrum
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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #69 on: August 20, 2008, 01:58:19 PM »

it is theoritically possible for there to be some sort of matter that entirely reflects the full spectrum

I don't see why not.  I was under the impression that it happens.
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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #70 on: August 20, 2008, 03:16:09 PM »

Objects which reflect the full visible spectrum appear white.
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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #71 on: August 20, 2008, 04:29:34 PM »

Objects which reflect the full visible spectrum appear white.
First, I don't know that anything is actually "pure" white...  that is 100% reflection, and
second, even that only takes the visible spectrum into consideration.
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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #72 on: August 20, 2008, 06:07:44 PM »

That's why I included the word visible in my post.  I'm sure that most objects reflect at least some invisible rays.  We just can't see them because they are...invisible.
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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #73 on: August 20, 2008, 07:57:58 PM »

That's why I included the word visible in my post.  I'm sure that most objects reflect at least some invisible rays.  We just can't see them because they are...invisible.

Invisible to our eyes i wonder how would those colors will look under the red and over the violet damn a new color would be shocking.
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Re: Quantum Relativity
« Reply #74 on: August 21, 2008, 04:06:03 AM »

a truly reflective media would be extremely heat-proof.....( almost all radiant energy is reflected rather than absorbed )
many years ago, there was this stuff called "starlight" that was invented by an ex-hairdresser. It coul be painted onto things and it would be almost entirely impervious to heat... On "Tommorrw's World" a greatly missed BBC science programme,
they painted a egg with the stuff, blowtorched the egg, and then cracked it open.... not only was the egg still raw, it was still cool to the touch.... I think they even tested it against industrial lasers and it proved impervious.
 No idea what happened to it, but it was supposed to be more heat-proof than the Space-shuttle tiles that were being used at the time ( this was mid 80's, I think )
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