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regina spektor and narnia?
« on: May 17, 2008, 11:12:26 AM »

regina spektor has a new song called "the call"   

and it plays at the end of the new narnia movie "prince caspian"

i went to see it last night, and i kinda freaked when i heard it...

it also pissed me off that people started to rise from their seats and leave...

i was like " WHOAH... this is REGINA F&#@ing SPEKTOR!!!!!"

i don't think the "Narnia" crowd is right for her....


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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2008, 02:10:50 PM »

meh.  She's pretty "mainstream," now.   She'll probably be a household name, soon enough.  I think that, if there is such a thing as a Narnia Crowd, they'd be a better audience for her music than the Crowds of many other movies...
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2008, 05:10:59 PM »

Hm, anyone got the alternate take of "Better"? I have the album version, but the one that plays in the video with lots of Reginas sounds much better.

Well, this is news! I saw the soundtrack for sale at Borders. I wonder when she's going to record another album.
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2008, 01:03:53 AM »

i wish that she would do music for small quirky indie type films..

 not huge christian-fueled kiddie disney stuff...
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2008, 01:13:38 AM »

She's a little too mainstream for my tastes. I still love her, but it upsets me when little scene kids buy begin to hope and think they're cool for liking her. It's like, bitch, Begin to Hope sucked hardcore. Get your bitch ass some pre-Soviet Kitsch material, and then we'll talk.
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2008, 01:34:16 AM »

Funny, what I hate is when people think they're too cool to like someone who's achieved
"mainstream commercial success".   Ooops, she's got a single on the charts.  I guess she sucks now.




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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2008, 09:49:10 AM »

Even weirder was when I was watching that Danny Bonaduce reality competition (I Know My Kid's A Star) on VH1. They played an RS song in the background off of Soviet Kitsch (which is my fave RS album.) But I'm really happy that someone else thinks Begin To Hope wasn't that great of an album. Pretty much Apres Moi is the only great song on that album. (And I'm sure some people will disagree.)

I dunno about anyone else, but "Samson" and "Fidelity" drive me NUTS. I spent an hour with a friend who was attacking me for not liking Begin To Hope. It was annoying.
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2008, 12:16:35 PM »

Uhmm I only have Begin to Hope but my friend - who downloaded all her previous albums - gave me some stuff from 11:11, Songs, and Soviet Kitsch. Now by "some stuff" I mean the whole album. My art teacher is a fan and I asked her which song was her favourite, and she said (in a thick English accent) "I only have her first cd, Begin to Hope"....Excuse you? That is NOT her first cd, bitch.

I will always like Regina Spektor mainstream or not. Now the sad part is that Regina doesn't remember half the songs from her previous cd's. This includes: Braille, Ode to Divorce, Somedays, Love Affair and all the goodies. :C
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2008, 01:16:38 PM »

Unfortunately, most stores only stock Soviet Kitsch and Begin to Hope :P

There's places where you can find many of her unreleased songs (Loveology and I Cut Off My Hair for instance). I think my favourite non-single off Begin to Hope is 20 Years of Snow...
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2008, 03:54:51 PM »

Funny, what I hate is when people think they're too cool to like someone who's achieved
"mainstream commercial success".   Ooops, she's got a single on the charts.  I guess she sucks now.




[I'm not actually picking at Seth.  I was just reminded of this all too common phenomenon, and he's
the closest offender.]

A lot of times, it's because they have lost some of their edge; which is why they finally broke in to the main stream.
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2008, 03:57:24 PM »

Funny, what I hate is when people think they're too cool to like someone who's achieved
"mainstream commercial success".   Ooops, she's got a single on the charts.  I guess she sucks now.




[I'm not actually picking at Seth.  I was just reminded of this all too common phenomenon, and he's
the closest offender.]

A lot of times, it's because they have lost some of their edge; which is why they finally broke in to the main stream.
Eh, does this count for the Dolls?
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2008, 04:38:18 PM »

Oh Christ, just because she's finally broken into the scene and people are finally recognizing the fact that she's a good aartist doesn't mean that she's "mainstream".  I mean, granted, her last album was less quirky than the others, but I think that was more of a matter of the producers' decisions than her own.

Why is it that any time a good artist gets recognition, old fans say that he is/she is/they are "selling out"?!?!?!



......sorry.  I just got into this whole big debate about that.  Sorta ticked me off.

I saw Regina in concert just after "Fidelity" started getting commercial success.  And trust me - she's just as awesome as ever.  I wish she'd played "Oedipus", but at least I got to hear "Baby Jesus" which is one of my favorite Spektor songs.

She hasn't lost her edge.  People have just adjusted to it.  I mean "Uh-Merica"?  That song was crazy. :)

And I like both "Begin to Hope" and "Soviet Kitch" just fine.  They're lovely, in fact.  If she was just doing the same exact thing as in "Mary Ann Meets the Gravediggers" and "11:11" it would get boring.  They're different from her other albums.  Not better, not worse.  Different.

...okay, maybe not quite as good as "Mary Ann", but my whole "different" point still stands! ;)
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2008, 05:02:39 PM »

Oh Christ, just because she's finally broken into the scene and people are finally recognizing the fact that she's a good aartist doesn't mean that she's "mainstream".  I mean, granted, her last album was less quirky than the others, but I think that was more of a matter of the producers' decisions than her own.

Why is it that any time a good artist gets recognition, old fans say that he is/she is/they are "selling out"?!?!?!



......sorry.  I just got into this whole big debate about that.  Sorta ticked me off.

I saw Regina in concert just after "Fidelity" started getting commercial success.  And trust me - she's just as awesome as ever.  I wish she'd played "Oedipus", but at least I got to hear "Baby Jesus" which is one of my favorite Spektor songs.

She hasn't lost her edge.  People have just adjusted to it.  I mean "Uh-Merica"?  That song was crazy. :)

And I like both "Begin to Hope" and "Soviet Kitch" just fine.  They're lovely, in fact.  If she was just doing the same exact thing as in "Mary Ann Meets the Gravediggers" and "11:11" it would get boring.  They're different from her other albums.  Not better, not worse.  Different.

...okay, maybe not quite as good as "Mary Ann", but my whole "different" point still stands! ;)

I think that aside from the singles off Begin to Hope, it's typical Regina Spektor piano jamming. Field Below, Apres Moi, On the Radio (the live version without the beats), Edit, 20 Years of Snow, Lady, Baobabs, Music Box, December, That Time, and Summer in the City are all outside the typical pop music field. The live version of Fidelity is very typical Regina, except the studio version has a beat added. Wasn't Samson on Songs?
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2008, 05:12:03 PM »

I love Regina; I always will.  But Begin to Hope just is not the same.  The production on most of the songs feels like too much for me, and I think I would have enjoyed some of the songs more had they been a bit more "bare." Though the songs are not my favorite, I think that the ratio of Regina to whatever else was my favorite on Soviet Kitsch. It still feels like its all Regina, but there ARE some additional instruments, etc which I think completely improve the songs.  But on BtH, I felt like the band was a bit awkward on 20 Years of Snow and Apres Moi.  They are still wonderful, but its a little overwhelming, and I don't love it.
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2008, 05:17:46 PM »

define the "narnia crowd."


i'm a big narnia fan and a big regina fan... so what?
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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2008, 08:34:15 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2008, 10:40:43 PM »

define the "narnia crowd."
In this context:
People who go to overhyped major-studio CG-heavy "blockbuster" motion pictures.
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2008, 11:53:29 PM »

the type of movie that a music artist is put in doesn't matter. asking if regina spektor is right for the "narnia crowd" (which is just about anyone that sees the movie or read the books) is almost as ridiculous as asking if annie lennox is right for the "lord of the rings crowd."
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2008, 02:48:34 AM »

Funny, what I hate is when people think they're too cool to like someone who's achieved
"mainstream commercial success".   Ooops, she's got a single on the charts.  I guess she sucks now.




[I'm not actually picking at Seth.  I was just reminded of this all too common phenomenon, and he's
the closest offender.]

She lost a lot of her edge with begin to hope. It was over-produced, and it didn't have the raw quality that made her previous material so awesome. That's actually quite common when artists become a commercial success. They get over-produced, and they lose a quality that made them really good. It's not the fact that they're popular. Hell, the popularity is a good thing, because it means that the artist will be financially stable and therefore able to release more material. It's the simple fact that in Regina's case, Begin to Hope did not have the same striking quality as her previous work. Begin to Hope sucked, hard, and even though I'm still a huge fan, I really hope her next album isn't as... well, I just hope it doesn't have as much of a pop/rock feel to it.
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2008, 08:30:50 AM »

Funny, what I hate is when people think they're too cool to like someone who's achieved
"mainstream commercial success".   Ooops, she's got a single on the charts.  I guess she sucks now.




[I'm not actually picking at Seth.  I was just reminded of this all too common phenomenon, and he's
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She lost a lot of her edge with begin to hope. It was over-produced, and it didn't have the raw quality that made her previous material so awesome. That's actually quite common when artists become a commercial success. They get over-produced, and they lose a quality that made them really good. It's not the fact that they're popular. Hell, the popularity is a good thing, because it means that the artist will be financially stable and therefore able to release more material. It's the simple fact that in Regina's case, Begin to Hope did not have the same striking quality as her previous work. Begin to Hope sucked, hard, and even though I'm still a huge fan, I really hope her next album isn't as... well, I just hope it doesn't have as much of a pop/rock feel to it.

For some reason, I thought I was the only one who thought this. But I'm not. And I feel way better. I still love Regina, but I'm hoping her next album is more SK and less BTH.
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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2008, 10:46:30 AM »

i think her releasing a new album that's more like 11:11 would rock my face right off.
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2008, 11:19:29 AM »

the type of movie that a music artist is put in doesn't matter. asking if regina spektor is right for the "narnia crowd" (which is just about anyone that sees the movie or read the books) is almost as ridiculous as asking if annie lennox is right for the "lord of the rings crowd."


people who see the movie will here the song, go buy the soundtrack at walmart, listen to it in their big SUVs then forget about it in a week when the "next cool thing " comes out in theaters....   

ever heard of the Juno soundtrack?  Kimya Dawson?  Moldy Peaches?   yeah it happened to them.. society sucks em' up... brags to friends that they like them... then spits them out

what i'm saying is... Regina deserves better than this, she does and so do her fans...
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2008, 02:10:21 PM »

ever think it's well deserved recognition?

regina has been featured in lots of stuff already... csi, 27 dresses, jc penney commercials, etc.
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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2008, 04:38:47 PM »

ever think it's well deserved recognition?

regina has been featured in lots of stuff already... csi, 27 dresses, jc penney commercials, etc.

I don't oppose musicians licensing their music. I interviewed Wakey!Wakey! in February, and he said that licensing is one of the few ways artists can pull in money these days, due to downloading, etc. (For example: Feist and "1234" in the iPod commercial.) Bands gotta eat, too.
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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2008, 08:34:13 PM »

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?
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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2008, 08:38:13 PM »

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?
...and one of their songs [I forget which song] is featured in a European [I forget which country]
TV commercial [I forget what product...  dish detergent maybe...  Mister Sparkle?  ;D ]
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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2008, 08:52:13 PM »

exactly, so stop bitching about regina getting featured in ads/movies/tv/etc.
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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2008, 09:30:41 PM »

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?

But the dolls, unlike regina, didn't lose their edge and style when they started commercializing.
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2008, 09:43:50 PM »

Funny, what I hate is when people think they're too cool to like someone who's achieved
"mainstream commercial success".   Ooops, she's got a single on the charts.  I guess she sucks now.




[I'm not actually picking at Seth.  I was just reminded of this all too common phenomenon, and he's
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She lost a lot of her edge with begin to hope. It was over-produced, and it didn't have the raw quality that made her previous material so awesome. That's actually quite common when artists become a commercial success. They get over-produced, and they lose a quality that made them really good. It's not the fact that they're popular. Hell, the popularity is a good thing, because it means that the artist will be financially stable and therefore able to release more material. It's the simple fact that in Regina's case, Begin to Hope did not have the same striking quality as her previous work. Begin to Hope sucked, hard, and even though I'm still a huge fan, I really hope her next album isn't as... well, I just hope it doesn't have as much of a pop/rock feel to it.

For some reason, I thought I was the only one who thought this. But I'm not. And I feel way better. I still love Regina, but I'm hoping her next album is more SK and less BTH.

I feel the same way about her, hope she get to do something as 11:11.
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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2008, 09:49:01 PM »

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?

But the dolls, unlike regina, didn't lose their edge and style when they started commercializing.

For Gods sake, she isn't "commercializing".  She's developing her style in different ways.  The next album may be totally different from ANYTHING we've heard before, or it may be like "Soviet Kitch" or "Begin To Hope" or even like the older stuff again.

This is just one album.  One time in her life.  Sia's first album is considered by a ton of people to be more "deep" and "meaningful" and "raw", but she was also incredibly depressed and moody when she made that album.  She started feeling better, and came out with a cheerier album.  Suddenly people said that she was a "sell-out".

Tell me, isn't being a sell out not changing, just because some of your fans don't want you to?
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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2008, 10:19:50 PM »

I actually can't stand the slow, dragged-out sound of 11:11. The only two songs that really stand out for me on that album are Buildings and Braille :/
I prefer Songs (with Oedipus), and actually like the production on Begin to Hope (mostly because added backing musicians is my thing, although Fidelity isn't exactly my choice of single).

Hearing live recordings are my favourite, as well as the bonus tracks on Begin to Hope (that are mostly Regina and the piano). Pound of Flesh comes to mind as one of the unreleased songs, along with the actual song entitled Begin to Hope (I need to listen to Soviet Kitsch again...)
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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2008, 12:10:36 AM »

my definition of sell out is one who starts writing for the industry and not for the fans.

i don't think when regina released begin to hope she expected the response she got. just because people use/used her music for purposes other than personal iPods doesn't mean she's sold her soul to the man.


if i were in her shoes, i'd be enjoying it. not everyone gains the recognition they deserve and i really think she deserves it.
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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2008, 01:57:49 AM »

Gawd, I hate when people start bitching about an artist because they are getting more popular!! So what if Regina is more mainstream now? She is still an amazing artist... I love all of her albums, including BTH.

What is the problem with an artist wanting to make a little money for their music? As long as it's not priority over the artistic aspect, I don't see anything wrong with selling a song for a movie or something once in a while.

Regina is great. I hope I can catch her live someday. :coolsmiley:
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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2008, 06:19:19 AM »

The bottom line, mainstream or not, is that it's STILL REGINA!

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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2008, 07:49:12 AM »

Oh Christ, just because she's finally broken into the scene and people are finally recognizing the fact that she's a good aartist doesn't mean that she's "mainstream".  I mean, granted, her last album was less quirky than the others, but I think that was more of a matter of the producers' decisions than her own.

Why is it that any time a good artist gets recognition, old fans say that he is/she is/they are "selling out"?!?!?!



......sorry.  I just got into this whole big debate about that.  Sorta ticked me off.

I saw Regina in concert just after "Fidelity" started getting commercial success.  And trust me - she's just as awesome as ever.  I wish she'd played "Oedipus", but at least I got to hear "Baby Jesus" which is one of my favorite Spektor songs.

She hasn't lost her edge.  People have just adjusted to it.  I mean "Uh-Merica"?  That song was crazy. :)

And I like both "Begin to Hope" and "Soviet Kitch" just fine.  They're lovely, in fact.  If she was just doing the same exact thing as in "Mary Ann Meets the Gravediggers" and "11:11" it would get boring.  They're different from her other albums.  Not better, not worse.  Different.

...okay, maybe not quite as good as "Mary Ann", but my whole "different" point still stands! ;)

I didn't say she was selling out, or that it was bad that she's joining the mainstream, which she is -- at least the shores of the mainstream. 

But I must agree that Begin to Hope sucked.  It was a major disappointment, for me.  But I love the song, "Edit."  I don't like the new version of "Apres Moi," but it's one of her good songs.  Other than that, thumbs down.

my definition of sell out is one who starts writing for the industry and not for the fans.

i don't think when regina released begin to hope she expected the response she got. just because people use/used her music for purposes other than personal iPods doesn't mean she's sold her soul to the man.


if i were in her shoes, i'd be enjoying it. not everyone gains the recognition they deserve and i really think she deserves it.

What about someone who starts writing for the fans, and not for themself?  The fans are the industry.  The fans are the $.
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2008, 09:05:05 AM »

my definition of sell out is one who starts writing for the industry and not for the fans.

i don't think when regina released begin to hope she expected the response she got. just because people use/used her music for purposes other than personal iPods doesn't mean she's sold her soul to the man.


if i were in her shoes, i'd be enjoying it. not everyone gains the recognition they deserve and i really think she deserves it.

What about someone who starts writing for the fans, and not for themself?  The fans are the industry.  The fans are the $.

how does one assume that she has started writing for just fans or just industry?

musicians have nothing if they don't write for themselves first. that goes for anyone, not just regina.
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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2008, 09:27:53 AM »

How is this even a discussion? I hope she made OODLES of money on this... oh, and a soundtrack does not equal overnight success.... not that that is a bad thing in any way. The term "sell out" just pisses me off.

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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2008, 09:55:45 AM »

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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2008, 10:21:09 AM »

my definition of sell out is one who starts writing for the industry and not for the fans.

i don't think when regina released begin to hope she expected the response she got. just because people use/used her music for purposes other than personal iPods doesn't mean she's sold her soul to the man.

if i were in her shoes, i'd be enjoying it. not everyone gains the recognition they deserve and i really think she deserves it.

That first part I must disagree with: if the artist is just writing for the fans and not for the song itself, doesn't that make it just as... sell-out-y?

The other part I definately agree with.  I personally ADORE Music Box (though I like the non-BTH recording betteR) and I'm perfectly glad to know that she's not a starving artist.  Starving artists have so little calcium in their bones that playing the piano would be impossible!

I mean, imagine a calcium-deprived Amanda Palmer playing "Girl Anachronism".  Just the first few heavy-hitting notes...

C F# A C C F# a-
di di di di di di d-CRACK!

That wouldn't be happy. ;)
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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2008, 01:16:20 PM »

OMG she put drums, bass and strings on an album and gave in to da man!!!

Seriously, the album sounds good. Is it edgy to have everything sound like a demo? Fuck that. Begin To Hope rules. If Regina is mainstream, so am I.
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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2008, 02:44:52 PM »

How is this even a discussion? I hope she made OODLES of money on this... oh, and a soundtrack does not equal overnight success.... not that that is a bad thing in any way. The term "sell out" just pisses me off.

Principles are great but they just don't pay the gas bill.

OMG she put drums, bass and strings on an album and gave in to da man!!!

Seriously, the album sounds good. Is it edgy to have everything sound like a demo? Fuck that. Begin To Hope rules. If Regina is mainstream, so am I.

you peeps took the words right out of my fingers.

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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2008, 07:20:04 PM »

so enough people agree?


regina hasn't lost her soul and is still the same cute thing with red hair that everyone loved back when 11:11/soviet kitsch was released.
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« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2008, 11:17:54 PM »

Just so we're clear, I was simply stating that there was a swift decline in quality from soviet kitch to begin to hope. It was too pop/rock for my taste.

Also, The Call is on youtube. It sucks worse than Field Below, and I've never been able to sit through that song.

And again, so we're clear, it's not the fact that she's becoming popular. That's excellent. It's the fact that her style is changing in a way that doesn't necessarily suit my tastes.
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« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2008, 11:20:58 PM »

so enough people agree?


regina hasn't lost her soul and is still the same cute thing with red hair that everyone loved back when 11:11/soviet kitsch was released.

Yep, we all can have opinions so don´t be a bitch if you don´t like someone else opinion (well you can be a bitch but it is not right, again it is sometimes funny but no always).

edit: i just listened to that song "The call" and .... ehm i like it, but not a lot.
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« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2008, 03:17:39 PM »

so enough people agree?
eh, probably not...  unless it's "agree to disagree", but as long as the discussion remains civil
and based in substance rather than name-calling and such...

regina hasn't lost her soul...
Gee, I sure hope not...

...and is still the same cute thing with red hair that everyone loved back when 11:11/soviet kitsch was released.
Not bloody likely.  She's older, she's seen new sights, experienced new things, met new people,
heard new songs, played with new ideas, suffered new trials, achieved new triumphs....

Still cute, still red-haired...  Same person? no way... and that will turn up in her music somehow.
If it doesn't, I would submit, she's writing the wrong songs for the wrong reasons.
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« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2008, 06:56:17 PM »

i would say this is all "agree to disagree."


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« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2008, 02:48:53 PM »

my definition of sell out is one who starts writing for the industry and not for the fans.

i don't think when regina released begin to hope she expected the response she got. just because people use/used her music for purposes other than personal iPods doesn't mean she's sold her soul to the man.


if i were in her shoes, i'd be enjoying it. not everyone gains the recognition they deserve and i really think she deserves it.

What about someone who starts writing for the fans, and not for themself?  The fans are the industry.  The fans are the $.

how does one assume that she has started writing for just fans or just industry?

musicians have nothing if they don't write for themselves first. that goes for anyone, not just regina.


I'm not talking about Regina Spektor.  I'm questioning your philosophy.

Has anyone in this thread said that Regina is selling out?
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« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2008, 03:46:11 PM »

I believe so, yes.  There were several comments about how she's lost her edge now that she's become a "commercial success" (which, let's be honest, she isn't: a few videos and a radio hit doth not a commercial success make).  There were additional comments about her music being in the Narnia movie, all with a pretty clear tone of disdain.  Some of these people seem to claim that, since her certain songs on her new album are a little more radio-friendly, she's just part of the "mainstream."

Most people I know don't even know who Regina Spektor is.  How could she be considered part of the mainstream

Radio-friendly ≠ Mainstream

And even if she was, why does "mainstream" necessarily imply "not-as-good-as-indie"?  I know plenty of completely terrible indie music, as quite a few lovely mainstream songs.
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« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2008, 04:20:22 PM »

it's depressing when fans have to say an entire album by an artist they like -sucks-, just to get some odd point across. the album didn't -suck-. you, personally, did not agree with how it was produced, and the route it took musically. i was sucked into thinking that Begin to Hope sucked as well, until i stopped bitching about the quality, and started listening to the songs without a veil of angst cloaking my ability to absorb the meaning behind the music.

she did something you didn't like, got a little commercial time, and is actually making money. she didn't lose any edge. she gained a new perspective, and test-drove some ideas that the old crowd has deemed sacrilegious to her good name. i think that old crowd just hates the fact that Begin to Hope is her first popular album, and it involves testing new ideas, and new sounds, which modify her overall tone.

i also agree that selling out would be sticking to a sound your fans like, instead of being your own person, and trying things your fans are probably going to hate...until they get over it.
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« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2008, 05:09:47 PM »

it's depressing when fans have to say an entire album by an artist they like -sucks-, just to get some odd point across. the album didn't -suck-. you, personally, did not agree with how it was produced, and the route it took musically. i was sucked into thinking that Begin to Hope sucked as well, until i stopped bitching about the quality, and started listening to the songs without a veil of angst cloaking my ability to absorb the meaning behind the music.

she did something you didn't like, got a little commercial time, and is actually making money. she didn't lose any edge. she gained a new perspective, and test-drove some ideas that the old crowd has deemed sacrilegious to her good name. i think that old crowd just hates the fact that Begin to Hope is her first popular album, and it involves testing new ideas, and new sounds, which modify her overall tone.

i also agree that selling out would be sticking to a sound your fans like, instead of being your own person, and trying things your fans are probably going to hate...until they get over it.

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« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2008, 12:56:56 AM »

I took another listen. The piano sounds like Regina, but the lyrics sound like corniness. Sometime being corny is good, but this kind of corny is just bad.

Eh, what do pacifists say about glorifying war again, eh? I think the style is to fit in with being in a film with orchestration. Imogen Heap's song for the first Narnia movie doesn't sound quite like her regular album material because Harry Gregson-Williams had a hand in writing it and because the lyrics had to be relevant.
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« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2008, 01:00:25 AM »

I took another listen. The piano sounds like Regina, but the lyrics sound like corniness. Sometime being corny is good, but this kind of corny is just bad.

Eh, what do pacifists say about glorifying war again, eh? I think the style is to fit in with being in a film with orchestration. Imogen Heap's song for the first Narnia movie doesn't sound quite like her regular album material because Harry Gregson-Williams had a hand in writing it and because the lyrics had to be relevant.

I'll admit I didn't watch the movie. I didn't like the remake Narnia though.
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« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2008, 01:22:56 PM »

i went with my cousins to see narnia yesterday and finally heard the song.

the lyrics definitely go with the movie and probably would sound really lame if you were just listening to the song, but at the same time i liked the song.







and the movie was pretty bomb... just btw.
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« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2008, 02:41:40 PM »

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?
...and one of their songs [I forget which song] is featured in a European [I forget which country]
TV commercial [I forget what product...  dish detergent maybe...  Mister Sparkle?  ;D ]
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I know quite quite a few people who discovered the dolls through it! and I discovered Regina when BTH came out. Now I prefer the previous albums, but I think I might not have got to know her music at all without all the publicity, so I'm glad.
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« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2008, 09:11:07 PM »

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?
...and one of their songs [I forget which song] is featured in a European [I forget which country]
TV commercial [I forget what product...  dish detergent maybe...  Mister Sparkle?  ;D ]
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I know quite quite a few people who discovered the dolls through it!
A COVER?!?!?
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« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2008, 11:09:50 PM »

I work at Anthropologie, and they played "On the Radio" over the store's soundtrack today... I was all, oh, Regina Spektor! And the girl I was working with was all Regina Who? so then I schooled her.
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« Reply #56 on: May 25, 2008, 01:01:01 AM »

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?
...and one of their songs [I forget which song] is featured in a European [I forget which country]
TV commercial [I forget what product...  dish detergent maybe...  Mister Sparkle?  ;D ]
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I know quite quite a few people who discovered the dolls through it!
A COVER?!?!?
(or did they just doctor it in editing?)

Still, a cute spot.

I think they raised the pitch of Amanda's voice (since the original has her voice a little younger than it is currently)
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« Reply #57 on: May 25, 2008, 05:28:14 AM »

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?
...and one of their songs [I forget which song] is featured in a European [I forget which country]
TV commercial [I forget what product...  dish detergent maybe...  Mister Sparkle?  ;D ]
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I know quite quite a few people who discovered the dolls through it!
A COVER?!?!?
(or did they just doctor it in editing?)

Still, a cute spot.

I think they raised the pitch of Amanda's voice (since the original has her voice a little younger than it is currently)

i HATE it when the media does that!! they've raised the whole thing up a tone after the intro.
Why do they do it? It distorts my pitch.
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« Reply #58 on: May 25, 2008, 09:03:56 AM »

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?
...and one of their songs [I forget which song] is featured in a European [I forget which country]
TV commercial [I forget what product...  dish detergent maybe...  Mister Sparkle?  ;D ]
austrian jam
I know quite quite a few people who discovered the dolls through it!
A COVER?!?!?
(or did they just doctor it in editing?)

Still, a cute spot.

I think they raised the pitch of Amanda's voice (since the original has her voice a little younger than it is currently)

i HATE it when the media does that!! they've raised the whole thing up a tone after the intro.
Why do they do it? It distorts my pitch.

Oh my God that was weird. Her pitch barely sounded human.
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« Reply #59 on: May 25, 2008, 01:51:18 PM »

next thing you know, they'll be changing regina's voice.....
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« Reply #60 on: May 25, 2008, 08:00:37 PM »

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?
...and one of their songs [I forget which song] is featured in a European [I forget which country]
TV commercial [I forget what product...  dish detergent maybe...  Mister Sparkle?  ;D ]
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I know quite quite a few people who discovered the dolls through it!
A COVER?!?!?
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Still, a cute spot.

I think they raised the pitch of Amanda's voice (since the original has her voice a little younger than it is currently)

i HATE it when the media does that!! they've raised the whole thing up a tone after the intro.
Why do they do it? It distorts my pitch.

Oh my God that was weird. Her pitch barely sounded human.

At first I thought it was a young and stupid dumb bitch singing over Amanda's godliness, then I listened closely.....DEAR GOD! THOSE FUCKER FUCKED WITH THE SONG! Grrrrrrrrrrrr!
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« Reply #61 on: May 26, 2008, 05:42:57 AM »

don't listen to it if you have perfect pitch. it plays with your brain!!
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« Reply #62 on: May 26, 2008, 05:58:50 AM »

that song is already painful. they somehow managed to make it worse. dear god, why?
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #63 on: May 26, 2008, 09:21:10 AM »




the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?
...and one of their songs [I forget which song] is featured in a European [I forget which country]
TV commercial [I forget what product...  dish detergent maybe...  Mister Sparkle?  ;D ]
austrian jam
I know quite quite a few people who discovered the dolls through it!
A COVER?!?!?
(or did they just doctor it in editing?)

Still, a cute spot.

I think they raised the pitch of Amanda's voice (since the original has her voice a little younger than it is currently)

i HATE it when the media does that!! they've raised the whole thing up a tone after the intro.
Why do they do it? It distorts my pitch.

Oh my God that was weird. Her pitch barely sounded human.

At first I thought it was a young and stupid dumb bitch singing over Amanda's godliness, then I listened closely.....DEAR GOD! THOSE FUCKER FUCKED WITH THE SONG! Grrrrrrrrrrrr!

That's excactly what I thought!! I had to watch it several times until I realised they hadn't changed the singer...
They probably had to raise it because Amanda's original voice would have mesmerised everyone, and the product wouldn't have got any attention...  :uglystupid2:
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #64 on: May 26, 2008, 11:15:34 AM »

so i caved and watched this commercial everyone is babbling about.


it is... interesting?
the high pitch does mess with you when you're used to hearing it in a lower voice.
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #65 on: May 26, 2008, 05:29:44 PM »

Just because Begin To Hope had the "Regina" turned down a notch so it could get radio play doesn't mean it sucks.... It is just more poppy. I still like it. A lot. Apres Moi is an amazing song.
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #66 on: June 03, 2008, 06:52:23 PM »

I just saw Narnia today and noticed that the key of "The Call" in the movie is different than the one on the soundtrack. and it's a different arrangement. to me it sounded more like a regina song then the soundtrack version does. i like it better, i wish they released that one =]
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« Reply #67 on: June 06, 2008, 07:53:23 PM »

Just because Begin To Hope had the "Regina" turned down a notch so it could get radio play doesn't mean it sucks.... It is just more poppy. I still like it. A lot. Apres Moi is an amazing song.

<333 that song gives me chills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTo_BwQW4jc
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #68 on: June 07, 2008, 04:27:39 AM »

okay, i'm listening to The Call now.
After what all you guys have said, i expected this atrosity! Fair enough, it's not my personal taste and i prefer Regina's older stuff
but it's not completely throw-radio-out-the-window stuff, is it?
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #69 on: June 07, 2008, 05:12:10 PM »

okay, i'm listening to The Call now.
After what all you guys have said, i expected this atrosity! Fair enough, it's not my personal taste and i prefer Regina's older stuff
but it's not completely throw-radio-out-the-window stuff, is it?
Don't you get it yet?

The fact that it's on the radio at all means it sucks, ipso-f'ing-facto.   :cussing:

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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #70 on: June 07, 2008, 05:51:09 PM »

okay, i'm listening to The Call now.
After what all you guys have said, i expected this atrosity! Fair enough, it's not my personal taste and i prefer Regina's older stuff
but it's not completely throw-radio-out-the-window stuff, is it?
Don't you get it yet?

The fact that it's on the radio at all means it sucks, ipso-f'ing-facto.   :cussing:



Don't forget the Dolls are occasionally on the radio too  :cussing:
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #71 on: June 08, 2008, 10:29:41 PM »

okay, i'm listening to The Call now.
After what all you guys have said, i expected this atrosity! Fair enough, it's not my personal taste and i prefer Regina's older stuff
but it's not completely throw-radio-out-the-window stuff, is it?
Don't you get it yet?

The fact that it's on the radio at all means it sucks, ipso-f'ing-facto.   :cussing:



i hope you were being at least semi-sarcastic with that statement.
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #72 on: June 09, 2008, 02:20:03 PM »

okay, i'm listening to The Call now.
After what all you guys have said, i expected this atrosity! Fair enough, it's not my personal taste and i prefer Regina's older stuff
but it's not completely throw-radio-out-the-window stuff, is it?
Don't you get it yet?

The fact that it's on the radio at all means it sucks, ipso-f'ing-facto.   :cussing:
i hope you were being at least semi-sarcastic with that statement.
100% sarcastic.  I quite like a lot of entirely commercial music (well, not entirely commercial,
but, say Natasha Bedingfield or The Killers...).  In fact, I've been told that my taste in music....
what was the word...  oh yeah, my taste in music sucks!  Know what?  It makes me happy, so I
really don't give a rip.  (Even if the person who said that is, basically, an all right guy, with fairly
good taste in music.)


As for the Dolls being on the radio, getting played on college stations, late-night-local-band shows,
and stations within 10 miles of your home don't count as "radio airplay."
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #73 on: June 09, 2008, 02:42:48 PM »

As for the Dolls being on the radio, getting played on college stations, late-night-local-band shows,
and stations within 10 miles of your home don't count as "radio airplay."

My thoughts exactly.
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« Reply #74 on: June 12, 2008, 01:31:32 AM »

okay, i'm listening to The Call now.
After what all you guys have said, i expected this atrosity! Fair enough, it's not my personal taste and i prefer Regina's older stuff
but it's not completely throw-radio-out-the-window stuff, is it?
Don't you get it yet?

The fact that it's on the radio at all means it sucks, ipso-f'ing-facto.   :cussing:
i hope you were being at least semi-sarcastic with that statement.
100% sarcastic.  I quite like a lot of entirely commercial music (well, not entirely commercial,
but, say Natasha Bedingfield or The Killers...).  In fact, I've been told that my taste in music....
what was the word...  oh yeah, my taste in music sucks!  Know what?  It makes me happy, so I
really don't give a rip.  (Even if the person who said that is, basically, an all right guy, with fairly
good taste in music.)


As for the Dolls being on the radio, getting played on college stations, late-night-local-band shows,
and stations within 10 miles of your home don't count as "radio airplay."

Well as I said before... I listen to basically anything that I enjoy. It doesn't matter if it's mainstream or very obscure or in between. Obvioulsy I can tell the difference between stuff that is really well made and creative and the stuff that is just for fun. But seriously--it's music. I'm not going to confine myself to only listen to stuff because it's "underground", or vice versa. Music is my biggest love. My religion really. <33333
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #75 on: June 12, 2008, 05:55:59 PM »

I really didn't like the movie, but that song made my evening. I love Regina.
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #76 on: June 14, 2008, 05:59:32 PM »

Sailor Song

and

Chemo Limo have been in my head all fucking day long.


I'll just belt out.. "Maryanne's a bitch!" in regina style.
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« Reply #77 on: June 15, 2008, 10:04:44 AM »

Just because Begin To Hope had the "Regina" turned down a notch so it could get radio play doesn't mean it sucks.... It is just more poppy. I still like it. A lot. Apres Moi is an amazing song.

<333 that song gives me chills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTo_BwQW4jc

apres moi is definetly one of my favorite regina songs along with ode to divorce =D
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #78 on: June 15, 2008, 06:32:40 PM »

i think "braille" is one of the most beautiful songs, if not the most beautiful song, regina has ever written.
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« Reply #79 on: June 15, 2008, 06:37:10 PM »

i think "braille" is one of the most beautiful songs, if not the most beautiful song, regina has ever written.

amen! i totally forgot about that...
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #80 on: June 15, 2008, 06:53:31 PM »

i immediately fell in love with that song when i heard it for the first time.
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« Reply #81 on: June 16, 2008, 08:30:06 PM »

I KNOW OH MY GOD I SAW IT AND I WEED MYSELF. sdkghuir.
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Re: regina spektor and narnia?
« Reply #82 on: June 18, 2008, 07:34:36 PM »

i just recorded a cover of "The Call"
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