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[music box]

i would say this is all "agree to disagree."

[Brittany]

my definition of sell out is one who starts writing for the industry and not for the fans.

i don't think when regina released begin to hope she expected the response she got. just because people use/used her music for purposes other than personal iPods doesn't mean she's sold her soul to the man.


if i were in her shoes, i'd be enjoying it. not everyone gains the recognition they deserve and i really think she deserves it.

What about someone who starts writing for the fans, and not for themself?  The fans are the industry.  The fans are the $.

how does one assume that she has started writing for just fans or just industry?

musicians have nothing if they don't write for themselves first. that goes for anyone, not just regina.

I'm not talking about Regina Spektor.  I'm questioning your philosophy.

Has anyone in this thread said that Regina is selling out?

[Tamora]

I believe so, yes.  There were several comments about how she's lost her edge now that she's become a "commercial success" (which, let's be honest, she isn't: a few videos and a radio hit doth not a commercial success make).  There were additional comments about her music being in the Narnia movie, all with a pretty clear tone of disdain.  Some of these people seem to claim that, since her certain songs on her new album are a little more radio-friendly, she's just part of the "mainstream."

Most people I know don't even know who Regina Spektor is.  How could she be considered part of the mainstream

Radio-friendly ≠ Mainstream

And even if she was, why does "mainstream" necessarily imply "not-as-good-as-indie"?  I know plenty of completely terrible indie music, as quite a few lovely mainstream songs.

[caddy]

it's depressing when fans have to say an entire album by an artist they like -sucks-, just to get some odd point across. the album didn't -suck-. you, personally, did not agree with how it was produced, and the route it took musically. i was sucked into thinking that Begin to Hope sucked as well, until i stopped bitching about the quality, and started listening to the songs without a veil of angst cloaking my ability to absorb the meaning behind the music.

she did something you didn't like, got a little commercial time, and is actually making money. she didn't lose any edge. she gained a new perspective, and test-drove some ideas that the old crowd has deemed sacrilegious to her good name. i think that old crowd just hates the fact that Begin to Hope is her first popular album, and it involves testing new ideas, and new sounds, which modify her overall tone.

i also agree that selling out would be sticking to a sound your fans like, instead of being your own person, and trying things your fans are probably going to hate...until they get over it.

[~*johanna*~]

it's depressing when fans have to say an entire album by an artist they like -sucks-, just to get some odd point across. the album didn't -suck-. you, personally, did not agree with how it was produced, and the route it took musically. i was sucked into thinking that Begin to Hope sucked as well, until i stopped bitching about the quality, and started listening to the songs without a veil of angst cloaking my ability to absorb the meaning behind the music.

she did something you didn't like, got a little commercial time, and is actually making money. she didn't lose any edge. she gained a new perspective, and test-drove some ideas that the old crowd has deemed sacrilegious to her good name. i think that old crowd just hates the fact that Begin to Hope is her first popular album, and it involves testing new ideas, and new sounds, which modify her overall tone.

i also agree that selling out would be sticking to a sound your fans like, instead of being your own person, and trying things your fans are probably going to hate...until they get over it.

yes! 

[colordeaf]

I took another listen. The piano sounds like Regina, but the lyrics sound like corniness. Sometime being corny is good, but this kind of corny is just bad.

Eh, what do pacifists say about glorifying war again, eh? I think the style is to fit in with being in a film with orchestration. Imogen Heap's song for the first Narnia movie doesn't sound quite like her regular album material because Harry Gregson-Williams had a hand in writing it and because the lyrics had to be relevant.

[SeeAnne]

I took another listen. The piano sounds like Regina, but the lyrics sound like corniness. Sometime being corny is good, but this kind of corny is just bad.

Eh, what do pacifists say about glorifying war again, eh? I think the style is to fit in with being in a film with orchestration. Imogen Heap's song for the first Narnia movie doesn't sound quite like her regular album material because Harry Gregson-Williams had a hand in writing it and because the lyrics had to be relevant.

I'll admit I didn't watch the movie. I didn't like the remake Narnia though.

[music box]

i went with my cousins to see narnia yesterday and finally heard the song.

the lyrics definitely go with the movie and probably would sound really lame if you were just listening to the song, but at the same time i liked the song.







and the movie was pretty bomb... just btw.

[Miss Sahara]

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?

...and one of their songs [I forget which song] is featured in a European [I forget which country]
TV commercial [I forget what product...  dish detergent maybe...  Mister Sparkle?  ]

austrian jam
I know quite quite a few people who discovered the dolls through it! and I discovered Regina when BTH came out. Now I prefer the previous albums, but I think I might not have got to know her music at all without all the publicity, so I'm glad.
I'm curious to hear the new song, though...

[CeeGBee]

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?

...and one of their songs [I forget which song] is featured in a European [I forget which country]
TV commercial [I forget what product...  dish detergent maybe...  Mister Sparkle?  ]

austrian jam
I know quite quite a few people who discovered the dolls through it!

A COVER?!?!?
(or did they just doctor it in editing?)

Still, a cute spot.

[Emaline]

I work at Anthropologie, and they played "On the Radio" over the store's soundtrack today... I was all, oh, Regina Spektor! And the girl I was working with was all Regina Who? so then I schooled her.

[colordeaf]

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?

...and one of their songs [I forget which song] is featured in a European [I forget which country]
TV commercial [I forget what product...  dish detergent maybe...  Mister Sparkle?  ]

austrian jam
I know quite quite a few people who discovered the dolls through it!

A COVER?!?!?
(or did they just doctor it in editing?)

Still, a cute spot.

I think they raised the pitch of Amanda's voice (since the original has her voice a little younger than it is currently)

[Holmes]

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?

...and one of their songs [I forget which song] is featured in a European [I forget which country]
TV commercial [I forget what product...  dish detergent maybe...  Mister Sparkle?  ]

austrian jam
I know quite quite a few people who discovered the dolls through it!

A COVER?!?!?
(or did they just doctor it in editing?)

Still, a cute spot.

I think they raised the pitch of Amanda's voice (since the original has her voice a little younger than it is currently)

i HATE it when the media does that!! they've raised the whole thing up a tone after the intro.
Why do they do it? It distorts my pitch.

[Emaline]

the dolls are a small example too.

wasn't girl anachronism was featured in an episode of weeds?

...and one of their songs [I forget which song] is featured in a European [I forget which country]
TV commercial [I forget what product...  dish detergent maybe...  Mister Sparkle?  ]

austrian jam
I know quite quite a few people who discovered the dolls through it!

A COVER?!?!?
(or did they just doctor it in editing?)

Still, a cute spot.

I think they raised the pitch of Amanda's voice (since the original has her voice a little younger than it is currently)

i HATE it when the media does that!! they've raised the whole thing up a tone after the intro.
Why do they do it? It distorts my pitch.

Oh my God that was weird. Her pitch barely sounded human.

[doritojoe89]

next thing you know, they'll be changing regina's voice.....