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The new album title is "THEATER IS EVIL"…or is it "THEATRE IS EVIL"?

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AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« on: June 01, 2012, 09:54:29 AM »

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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2012, 10:10:04 AM »

Be Brechtian! Choose TheatER!
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2012, 10:14:32 AM »

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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2012, 10:15:41 AM »

Theatre! BRIT POWER!
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2012, 10:17:55 AM »

i voted for theatre, although i wouldn't want the american public to think that the band considers "theatre", as a word, to be evil
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2012, 10:19:32 AM »

I honestly think “theatre” just sounds much more theatrical.

Plus, I always associate “theater” with the place and “theatre” with the art. Thought this is probably just weird foreigner-thinking.
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2012, 10:28:03 AM »

I always associate “theater” with the place and “theatre” with the art. Thought this is probably just weird foreigner-thinking.
i think of it the same way
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2012, 10:29:15 AM »

i voted for theatre, although i wouldn't want the american public to think that the band considers "theatre", as a word, to be evil

Sadly, this is true. I would "Like" it if there were a button. I prefer "re" myself but agree that Americans will be baffled. I myself am baffled as to why theatre/er is evil anyway?!? :o
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2012, 10:32:48 AM »

I'm American, & I picked 'theatre' because I've always spelled it that way. I'm not sure where I picked up the habit.
Sorry, Amanda. I feel bad asking you to change the title after you've already picked and released it.
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2012, 10:33:30 AM »

Theatre!!

It's how we spell it in Canada too.
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2012, 10:34:01 AM »

I just like the way "Theatre" looks better. Perhaps that's because I grew up with it that way, but it's definitely my preference.
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2012, 10:41:35 AM »

I must confess that, as a French, I'm still quite puzzled to see "Theatre" being spelled like that. Seems like a trap, so that we are tricked into pronouncing it like we do in french. And then, the teacher can yell at us for being ignorant fools *paranoid*
Therefore, I voted for "Theater". I mean, it's how it sounds like in english.
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2012, 10:41:52 AM »

I'm torn on this one. Theatre is more pretentious and thus more ironic in context, but I also usually associate theatre with real performance art and theater with both art and farce (ala "security theater) so I voted for theater. Perhaps the most ironic answer would be "Theat[re|er] is evil" as an even higher level of the sort "say-anything-to-get-elected theater".
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2012, 10:42:52 AM »

I dunno, movie theaters can be pretty evil... very dark, other people's backs/heads/feet invading your personal space, floors covered with suspicious gooey substances, and then suddenly, LOUD NOISES!

ETA: Despite my attempts to reason this out for myself, I still voted "theatre." :icon_brilsmurf:
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2012, 10:43:19 AM »

I always associate “theater” with the place and “theatre” with the art.
This. Exactly THIS.
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2012, 10:44:10 AM »

I honestly think “theatre” just sounds much more theatrical.

Plus, I always associate “theater” with the place and “theatre” with the art. Thought this is probably just weird foreigner-thinking.

I agree with you.  I picked "theatre" but being American I always spell it "theater" because I don't want to confuse people...

Also, one is considered evil over the other? That's news to me.
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2012, 10:44:25 AM »

If pretension is the goal, TheatRE just bleeds class...
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2012, 10:45:34 AM »

I don't understand why theatre is pretentious, is it the English thing? I always thought we were more quirky :P
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2012, 10:47:33 AM »

Give the Americans some credit...most of us can figure out the difference between theater/theatre, favorite/favourite, and color/colour without getting baffled. For me, it's always been theatre. And no...I don't think it's pretentious.
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2012, 10:47:45 AM »

theater - for movies and popcorn
theatre - for fur coats, kiminos, and drama

I am an American, but I don't think you can have the Grand Theft Orchestra go to the theater.  They go to the theatre.  Maybe if it was the "Guitar Hero Rock Band".

and the album title should be LIVE THEATRE EVIL
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2012, 10:54:41 AM »

maybe you should add another option... smurf tits
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2012, 11:03:38 AM »

theater - for movies and popcorn
theatre - for fur coats, kiminos, and drama

I am an American, but I don't think you can have the Grand Theft Orchestra go to the theater.  They go to the theatre.  Maybe if it was the "Guitar Hero Rock Band".

and the album title should be LIVE THEATRE EVIL

this yes very much this. i think of "theater" as movies and "theatre" as movies and popcorn.
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2012, 11:18:05 AM »

Definitley Theatre.... EOM  :coolsmiley:
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2012, 11:19:53 AM »

Theatre, all the way... Longtemps vivre le théâtre diabolique!
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2012, 11:25:48 AM »

I honestly think “theatre” just sounds much more theatrical.

Plus, I always associate “theater” with the place and “theatre” with the art. Thought this is probably just weird foreigner-thinking.

it probably is weird foreigner-thinking, but I think the same about 'theater' place and 'theatre' art.

go for THEATRE :)
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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2012, 11:36:10 AM »

I've always associated "theater" as the building or place, and "theatre" as the artform, but I'm an American that lived in Europe as a child, & I also cross my 7's & z's.#oddduck
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2012, 11:41:21 AM »

Theatre. "We spell things differently, some may say more correctly"
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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2012, 12:11:49 PM »

I would definitely go for this: "THEATER/RE IS EVIL" :D

This is kinda playful and nobody can complain.
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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2012, 12:17:46 PM »

My favorite would've been théâtre, but I'll go for theatre.
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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2012, 12:21:25 PM »

Definitely theatre. "Theater" sounds like a place you see American action movies. Theatre sounds like a place you see art.
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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2012, 12:51:20 PM »

Honestly, maybe it's the dyslexic part of me, but I never actually realised that the Yanks and the Brits spelled it differently. :uglystupid2:
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« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2012, 01:06:57 PM »

I just like the way "Theatre" looks better. Perhaps that's because I grew up with it that way, but it's definitely my preference.

"Theatre" looks better overall, but not at the beginning of a sentence/title. That's why I voted "Theater."

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« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2012, 01:42:26 PM »

Theatre, all the way... Longtemps vivre le théâtre diabolique!

théâtre diabolique

is a great name for an album.  Just like that, all lowercase.

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« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2012, 02:03:56 PM »

I've worked in theatre for 7 years. All through high school, at professionally for 3. The consensus is:

You see Shakespeare in a theatre. You see Die Hard in a theater.
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« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2012, 02:13:08 PM »

Totally losing this one. Lol.
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« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2012, 03:58:33 PM »

Registered to say this:  Theater is screen, Theatre is stage; thus my teacher told me.  There are comments here that imply stage is better art than screen.  I disagree.

That said, I didn't vote on the album title.  Either would work.
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« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2012, 07:46:45 PM »

I'm afraid I do not yet understand the “nine layers of irony”. Sure, Amanda and her band do theatre, so it's contradictory for them to say that. The very act of saying something so treacherous and outrageous is theatre too, I assume. What else?

It might make sense in context and with time, I suppose. I don't think it's a bad one.
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« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2012, 08:45:26 PM »

Yeah i've always thought of it as theatre = live performance, theater = movies so to me theatre makes more sense for the title.
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« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2012, 08:48:47 PM »

Theatre looks prettier. Surely that's a good enough reason?
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« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2012, 10:46:57 PM »

this title is so stupid...I love Amanda and all three songs so far, but I am 100% disappointed by this title. this is actuall th first and only time I've ever felt let down by Amanda.

it's just SUCH a dumb, forgettable title. it would even be a bad song name, bu the title of an ALBUM?! idk, I'm lronanl going to renAme my iTunes version of the album...theatre is evil is just atrocious
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« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2012, 12:19:09 AM »

this title is so stupid...I love Amanda and all three songs so far, but I am 100% disappointed by this title. this is actuall th first and only time I've ever felt let down by Amanda.

it's just SUCH a dumb, forgettable title. it would even be a bad song name, bu the title of an ALBUM?! idk, I'm lronanl going to renAme my iTunes version of the album...theatre is evil is just atrocious

this is a really poor choice of a "first and only" of amanda's decisions to be upset about.

even i barely give a fuck and i always have something hateful to say.
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« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2012, 02:20:23 AM »

I think it should have just been a self-titled album. Just Amanda Palmer & The Grand Theft Orchestra would have been good.
i'd been so excited the past month with how the whole kickstarter thing was going, that i forgot all about the album needing a title. i just can't wait to hold it in my hands, and honestly when amanda tweeted that she was about to reveal the title i thought to myself "oh yeah, that's what we didn't know already, cool..."
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« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2012, 03:34:03 AM »


And I don't like the title at all, but who really cares?
I think it should have just been a self-titled album. Just Amanda Palmer & The Grand Theft Orchestra would have been good.

Self-titled would have been preferable.
But whatever. All I care about is the music and the goodies that come with it. A few words don't make a difference.
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« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2012, 05:54:27 AM »

I guess I'm only disappointed after she tweeted about having the world's greatest/funniest album title, or something to that effect. I'm missing the "nine layers of irony" too, cos all I get is that her and the band "do" theatre, but... idk. It just seems odd. Yes, Virginia and Who Killed Amanda Palmer? both have a ring to them. Theater/re Is Evil sounds... less? I don't know. Maybe it'll grow on me. It probably will.

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« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2012, 05:55:40 AM »

Theatre! BRIT POWER!
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« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2012, 09:01:48 AM »

the title isn't ruining my life...it's just a disappointment, a let down

there is no ring to it, no pzaz. idk

the title doesn't matter when compared to the music though

I hope the album cover will redeem the title for me :)



EDIT: I think why I'm so mad is that IMO, an album title should set the tone for the music, or be the main theme of an album. for just one example, Born This Way. it's Cathy and sets the tone and theme forthe album.

Theatre Is Evil....what? every single song we know so far, IMO doesn't relate to that title. it makes no sense in regards to the thematic nature of the music
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« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2012, 09:16:42 AM »

^ The artwork of the album probably serves as a bridge. All those pictures of the band among luxury furniture and gold records. It serves as a bridge to the kind of music by employing a rock band aesthetic that fits with the synth-ness, and at the same time its exaggerated and theatrical nature, combined with the whole tabloid-ish “oh were just a famous rock band swimming in gold” makes the title sound even more hypocritical.
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« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2012, 12:10:39 PM »

the title isn't ruining my life...it's just a disappointment, a let down

there is no ring to it, no pzaz. idk

the title doesn't matter when compared to the music though

I hope the album cover will redeem the title for me :)



EDIT: I think why I'm so mad is that IMO, an album title should set the tone for the music, or be the main theme of an album. for just one example, Born This Way. it's Cathy and sets the tone and theme forthe album.

Theatre Is Evil....what? every single song we know so far, IMO doesn't relate to that title. it makes no sense in regards to the thematic nature of the music

you'll hopefully "get it" at a later date.
i felt so strongly about it when i did, that i called amanda and demanded she listen to my theory as to what it means.
no comment as to what she replied with.  ^-^
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« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2012, 01:18:06 PM »

I hope it grows on me, but I don't think it will. oh well--it's jut a title :)

I wonder how many songs she actually recorded for the album and if she will actually release them all. hopefully :D
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« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2012, 02:04:13 PM »

it will be cool to "get" the title if there are important details we don't have yet, but it feels pretty in line with everything else amanda's made in the past few years.
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« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2012, 01:38:05 AM »

Now I need to get my hands on one of these soon-to-be-collectible "promo discs"....


It'll be even bigger than the Beatles' "Butcher cover".

I wonder if they sent one to WRIR...  (and if not, WHY not?)
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2012, 05:30:46 AM »

Now I need to get my hands on one of these soon-to-be-collectible "promo discs"....

i've been thinking the same thing. if they are sending it to oz media maybe i could get my hands on one!
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« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2012, 05:50:37 AM »

I would definitely go for this: "THEATER/RE IS EVIL" :D

This is kinda playful and nobody can complain.

I realise that I'm kind of late to the party, but, I dig this. 8)

Also, it may just be my European-ness, but I don't even react to the possible pretentiousness of "theatre". Like many others have said, if you want pretentious, do it Frenchy style.
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« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2012, 06:16:47 AM »

i was also unaware that theatre was pretentious, it's just the way it's spelt here. fucking operating theatre is spelt theatre and i don't think anything about surgery is pretentious
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« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2012, 09:30:37 AM »

I was going to write that they should use the Australian spelling, since that is where the album was recorded, but I see that the point is moot!

Now I'd just like an explanation. The only thing I can figure is that theatre is an illusion and Buddhism teaches that all we experience is illusion and that we should clear our minds (wait, mind is an illusion!) to reach Zen. Or something like that. Anybody who practices Buddhism wanna help me out here? But if everything we experience is an illusion, then there is no difference between theater and daily life. No line between "reality" and "imagination". And as I write this, my kids are being pirates in the other room.
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« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2012, 12:27:23 PM »

i was also unaware that theatre was pretentious, it's just the way it's spelt here. fucking operating theatre is spelt theatre and i don't think anything about surgery is pretentious
It's only pretentious here in the States.

If one of you lot were to use "theater", it's kinda like, well...
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« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2012, 12:31:01 PM »

if theatre is spelled theater, how do you spell theatrical?
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« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2012, 12:38:34 PM »

if theatre is spelled theater, how do you spell theatrical?
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2012, 03:27:17 PM »


Now I'd just like an explanation. The only thing I can figure is that theatre is an illusion and Buddhism teaches that all we experience is illusion and that we should clear our minds (wait, mind is an illusion!) to reach Zen. Or something like that. Anybody who practices Buddhism wanna help me out here? But if everything we experience is an illusion, then there is no difference between theater and daily life. No line between "reality" and "imagination". And as I write this, my kids are being pirates in the other room.

The theatre, Buddhism & Illusion idea is pretty interesting. I’d quite like to believe that that could be the meaning behind the album title…

I’m not a Buddhist but I think that the reduction of reality-to-illusion can be understood in the context of the four noble truths. The general pitch of the four noble truths is that suffering is very bad and that a lot of it (possibly all of it) is down to psychological attachments we’ve formed; these attachments are maladaptive as stand-alone beliefs but have become weight bearing beliefs which sort of serve as a convoluted means to an end. The illusion, in this predicament, is that we believe that these means and ends are useful when all we really require is a cessation of the underlying tensions that spur us to act. The drama (theatre) of life merely serves as a crude means for acting out and resolving tensions and it serves that purpose in such a way as to create new tensions that need resolving and which might even be irresolvable with that clumsy approach. The Buddhist essentially aims for a more direct and efficient way to resolve these tensions.

It’s possible to take this idea to Reductio ad absurdum when thinking about what this reduction of psychology might mean but I don’t think it really deserves it. The intended outcome of the meditative practice doesn’t contradict or encroach on the “suffering is bad” premise which is basically what grounds that aspect of the philosophy in reality and makes it relevant. The premise is essentially an absolute – suffering (slowly resolving or non-resolving strains both mental and physical), as an experience in itself, would be bad for anything in any conceivable universe and it is better for these tensions to not exist or to resolve as efficiently as possible if one does not wish to suffer.
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #59 on: June 03, 2012, 09:51:24 PM »


Now I'd just like an explanation. The only thing I can figure is that theatre is an illusion and Buddhism teaches that all we experience is illusion and that we should clear our minds (wait, mind is an illusion!) to reach Zen. Or something like that. Anybody who practices Buddhism wanna help me out here? But if everything we experience is an illusion, then there is no difference between theater and daily life. No line between "reality" and "imagination". And as I write this, my kids are being pirates in the other room.

The theatre, Buddhism & Illusion idea is pretty interesting. I’d quite like to believe that that could be the meaning behind the album title…

I’m not a Buddhist but I think that the reduction of reality-to-illusion can be understood in the context of the four noble truths. The general pitch of the four noble truths is that suffering is very bad and that a lot of it (possibly all of it) is down to psychological attachments we’ve formed; these attachments are maladaptive as stand-alone beliefs but have become weight bearing beliefs which sort of serve as a convoluted means to an end. The illusion, in this predicament, is that we believe that these means and ends are useful when all we really require is a cessation of the underlying tensions that spur us to act. The drama (theatre) of life merely serves as a crude means for acting out and resolving tensions and it serves that purpose in such a way as to create new tensions that need resolving and which might even be irresolvable with that clumsy approach. The Buddhist essentially aims for a more direct and efficient way to resolve these tensions.

It’s possible to take this idea to Reductio ad absurdum when thinking about what this reduction of psychology might mean but I don’t think it really deserves it. The intended outcome of the meditative practice doesn’t contradict or encroach on the “suffering is bad” premise which is basically what grounds that aspect of the philosophy in reality and makes it relevant. The premise is essentially an absolute – suffering (slowly resolving or non-resolving strains both mental and physical), as an experience in itself, would be bad for anything in any conceivable universe and it is better for these tensions to not exist or to resolve as efficiently as possible if one does not wish to suffer.

Thank you for your thoughtful, illuminating response. I don't wish to be irreverent. I think the premise "suffering is bad" is a a good simple translation/reduction of the album title. Amanda has said that many of the songs are about losing things, which could relate to attachment.
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Re: AMANDA PALMER & THE GRAND THEFT ORCHESTRA PRESENT…
« Reply #60 on: June 18, 2012, 05:29:51 AM »

i think this deserves a place in this thread:
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« Reply #61 on: August 24, 2012, 04:48:52 PM »

I LOVE, LOVE the cover, but I'm worried because it seems from the pics that the Kickstarter CD box is gonna be DVD-sized. How will it be designed?
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« Reply #62 on: August 27, 2012, 02:10:51 AM »


in the second backers update she posted this photo

and everyone with the summer invasion pledge already knows that the case shown there for 7" vinyls was used, so maybe the one on the bottom left is supposed to be for the cd. i don't know how the cover could be printed on that though
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« Reply #63 on: August 27, 2012, 03:32:19 AM »

Maybe like the Tristan Allen EP? That was also DVD shaped, and it worked. It might just end up being cropped to have Amanda's face in the middle of it?

I have no idea. We'll just have to wait and see.
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« Reply #64 on: August 27, 2012, 08:43:20 AM »

Or maybe it'll just be plain black (ala the Mailbox Invasion box) and then inside will be the booklet containing the cover?

Any ideas on what the bottom right silver thing is? Or is that just something unrelated that slipped into the picture?

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« Reply #65 on: August 27, 2012, 08:56:05 AM »

Any ideas on what the bottom right silver thing is? Or is that just something unrelated that slipped into the picture?
i don't know whether that is a folder or an unprinted book example or something completely unrelated. maybe it's just a sample for texture purposes
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« Reply #66 on: September 11, 2012, 10:10:13 AM »

theaTRE.
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