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[Morpheus Laughing]

Now I'd just like an explanation. The only thing I can figure is that theatre is an illusion and Buddhism teaches that all we experience is illusion and that we should clear our minds (wait, mind is an illusion!) to reach Zen. Or something like that. Anybody who practices Buddhism wanna help me out here? But if everything we experience is an illusion, then there is no difference between theater and daily life. No line between "reality" and "imagination". And as I write this, my kids are being pirates in the other room.

The theatre, Buddhism & Illusion idea is pretty interesting. I’d quite like to believe that that could be the meaning behind the album title…

I’m not a Buddhist but I think that the reduction of reality-to-illusion can be understood in the context of the four noble truths. The general pitch of the four noble truths is that suffering is very bad and that a lot of it (possibly all of it) is down to psychological attachments we’ve formed; these attachments are maladaptive as stand-alone beliefs but have become weight bearing beliefs which sort of serve as a convoluted means to an end. The illusion, in this predicament, is that we believe that these means and ends are useful when all we really require is a cessation of the underlying tensions that spur us to act. The drama (theatre) of life merely serves as a crude means for acting out and resolving tensions and it serves that purpose in such a way as to create new tensions that need resolving and which might even be irresolvable with that clumsy approach. The Buddhist essentially aims for a more direct and efficient way to resolve these tensions.

It’s possible to take this idea to Reductio ad absurdum when thinking about what this reduction of psychology might mean but I don’t think it really deserves it. The intended outcome of the meditative practice doesn’t contradict or encroach on the “suffering is bad” premise which is basically what grounds that aspect of the philosophy in reality and makes it relevant. The premise is essentially an absolute – suffering (slowly resolving or non-resolving strains both mental and physical), as an experience in itself, would be bad for anything in any conceivable universe and it is better for these tensions to not exist or to resolve as efficiently as possible if one does not wish to suffer.

[RiverVox]

Now I'd just like an explanation. The only thing I can figure is that theatre is an illusion and Buddhism teaches that all we experience is illusion and that we should clear our minds (wait, mind is an illusion!) to reach Zen. Or something like that. Anybody who practices Buddhism wanna help me out here? But if everything we experience is an illusion, then there is no difference between theater and daily life. No line between "reality" and "imagination". And as I write this, my kids are being pirates in the other room.

The theatre, Buddhism & Illusion idea is pretty interesting. I’d quite like to believe that that could be the meaning behind the album title…

I’m not a Buddhist but I think that the reduction of reality-to-illusion can be understood in the context of the four noble truths. The general pitch of the four noble truths is that suffering is very bad and that a lot of it (possibly all of it) is down to psychological attachments we’ve formed; these attachments are maladaptive as stand-alone beliefs but have become weight bearing beliefs which sort of serve as a convoluted means to an end. The illusion, in this predicament, is that we believe that these means and ends are useful when all we really require is a cessation of the underlying tensions that spur us to act. The drama (theatre) of life merely serves as a crude means for acting out and resolving tensions and it serves that purpose in such a way as to create new tensions that need resolving and which might even be irresolvable with that clumsy approach. The Buddhist essentially aims for a more direct and efficient way to resolve these tensions.

It’s possible to take this idea to Reductio ad absurdum when thinking about what this reduction of psychology might mean but I don’t think it really deserves it. The intended outcome of the meditative practice doesn’t contradict or encroach on the “suffering is bad” premise which is basically what grounds that aspect of the philosophy in reality and makes it relevant. The premise is essentially an absolute – suffering (slowly resolving or non-resolving strains both mental and physical), as an experience in itself, would be bad for anything in any conceivable universe and it is better for these tensions to not exist or to resolve as efficiently as possible if one does not wish to suffer.

Thank you for your thoughtful, illuminating response. I don't wish to be irreverent. I think the premise "suffering is bad" is a a good simple translation/reduction of the album title. Amanda has said that many of the songs are about losing things, which could relate to attachment.

[dunnogr]

i think this deserves a place in this thread:

[t3hFM]

I LOVE, LOVE the cover, but I'm worried because it seems from the pics that the Kickstarter CD box is gonna be DVD-sized. How will it be designed?

[NikosGr]

in the second backers update she posted this photo

and everyone with the summer invasion pledge already knows that the case shown there for 7" vinyls was used, so maybe the one on the bottom left is supposed to be for the cd. i don't know how the cover could be printed on that though

[absynth aura]

Maybe like the Tristan Allen EP? That was also DVD shaped, and it worked. It might just end up being cropped to have Amanda's face in the middle of it?

I have no idea. We'll just have to wait and see.

[citizenoftheplanet]

Or maybe it'll just be plain black (ala the Mailbox Invasion box) and then inside will be the booklet containing the cover?

Any ideas on what the bottom right silver thing is? Or is that just something unrelated that slipped into the picture?

[NikosGr]

Any ideas on what the bottom right silver thing is? Or is that just something unrelated that slipped into the picture?

i don't know whether that is a folder or an unprinted book example or something completely unrelated. maybe it's just a sample for texture purposes

[dawlheart]

theaTRE.