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[CeeGBee]

Tell you where you are, free.

...however, if you get the fancy map service...  the one that tells you not just where you are, but also about road work,
speed-traps (you do have speed traps in the UK, right?), and how to reach the nearest fast-food provider...there might
be a regular fee.

[Kenny Wisdom]

Speed trap?

Safety cameras, my dear fellow. That's how the nanny state sells them to us.

Safety cameras.

[$ethie]

the last time i checked,
none of the internet map sites
handled car ferries at all

do any of the GPS units?

mapquest > gps

V. Z. navigator > MapQuest

Where's the movie playing?
Upper West Side, dude.
Well, let's hit up Yahoo! Maps to find the dopest route.
I prefer Mapquest. (That's a good one, too.)
Google maps is the best. True that. (Double true!)

VZ navigator doesn't, and every once in a while it fucks up with one way streets. That is, the voice says "turn left in .5 miles", Sethie drives a little further, sethie prepares to turn left, sethie begins making a left turn on the proper street, only to see a sign saying that the street is one way and right turn only.

[CeeGBee]

Speed trap?

Safety cameras, my dear fellow. That's how the nanny state sells them to us.

Safety cameras.

Cool!  Do yours automatically read your plate and send you a computer-generated citation, with a
presumption of guity-until-proven-innocent, and probably even then?

They wanted to install those in some places not far from me, but apparently our legislators like to
speed a bit, so it was stifled as an invasion of privacy.

[Kenny Wisdom]

Invasion of privacy! Pah!

Favourite saying in the town halls - "If you're not doing anything wrong, you've nothing to worry about" and that's how we became the most watched nation in the world - 4.2 million surveillance cameras, last time I counted.

We do have automatic number plate recognition. Even worse than just snapping you, they calculate your speed between two fixed points, so if you try and slow down at cameras, but speed up in between, and you've exceeded the speed based on the timings, wallop, they've got you.

All in the interest of safety, don't forget.

Smile, for the camera...

[CeeGBee]

Invasion of privacy! Pah!

Favourite saying in the town halls - "If you're not doing anything wrong, you've nothing to worry about" and that's how we became the most watched nation in the world - 4.2 million surveillance cameras, last time I counted.

Well, as I understand it, a lot of that is attributable to....
what was the name?  Irish Republican somethingorother...  had a nasty habit of leaving exploding shopping bags about
for a while there...

Nothing like a "terrorist threat" to get people to surrender their civil liberties...

We do have automatic number plate recognition. Even worse than just snapping you, they calculate your speed between two fixed points, so if you try and slow down at cameras, but speed up in between, and you've exceeded the speed based on the timings, wallop, they've got you.

Now that you mention it, we have these automatic toll-gadgets...  you drive through the special lane at the toll-booth
and it just scans the little windshield thingie and you never have to stop...  It just debits your pre-paid account.

That system checks your average speed between tollbooths as well, and can issue a citation.

Those Bastards!    Ya have to say that with a British accent for full effect.

[85283-071]

There are license plate covers that allow the plate to be seen but not photographed.

[Kenny Wisdom]

Myth busters busted that myth!

Best thing I can think of is have a revolving number plate, ala Jimmy Bond.

I think they used a drag racer to finally beat the camera. So that works, but obviously with the price of fuel being what it is you may still need to slow down, in the interests of safety...

[CeeGBee]

Myth busters busted that myth!

All snark aside, MB did do a pretty thorough check-out of that one...

Pretty much anything that the camera can't read gets you a ticket for an obstucted plate
when a flesh-and-blood cop spots it.

[Kenny Wisdom]

True - I know someone got pulled in London for having muddy plates. Penalty points on licence. All they wanted to do was turn out for the "Let us carry on chasing foxes and then let our hounds rip them to pieces" parade. There's just no justice in the world.

[colordeaf]

Invasion of privacy! Pah!

Favourite saying in the town halls - "If you're not doing anything wrong, you've nothing to worry about" and that's how we became the most watched nation in the world - 4.2 million surveillance cameras, last time I counted.

We do have automatic number plate recognition. Even worse than just snapping you, they calculate your speed between two fixed points, so if you try and slow down at cameras, but speed up in between, and you've exceeded the speed based on the timings, wallop, they've got you.

All in the interest of safety, don't forget.

Smile, for the camera...

Both my parents speed. Usually 5 mph above the speed limit (what is that in km?)

I have a...friend in Cambridge who could tell me all about it. How's piracy in your country? I noticed you live in Rutland.

There's an imaginary country called Frutland, somewhere.

[Kenny Wisdom]

How's piracy in your country? I noticed you live in Rutland.

You have to keep your eyes peeled. Sometimes bands of marauding pirates descend upon you and you have to slash them with your sword or blast them with your pistol. Other times they are too busy singing sea shanties to be bothered with pirating.

[fishbulb]

Coincidentally I was dismantling an exhibition on the Middle Ages yesterday so I got to hold a real Medieval sword! It was unbelievably. The balance of the thing was uncanny. It weighed very heavy, but when I lifted it right it weighed nothing. It invited me to wave around me effortlessly, so I did and it was hard to stop. I think I want a sword. It was a wonderful feeling.

[The Angel Raliel]

Fishy! I can assure you that swords are cool! next time you are in the UK I will teach you how to sword fight, ( I have several ) If you want to buy a sword, then I would reccommend Heron Armouries http://www.heronarmoury.co.uk/
I have two of these....

and one of these.... from  Heron.... possibly the  best and cheapest re-enactment swords in the UK.... he will make swords exactly the way you
want him to, and quickly too!.............. I will happily teach anyone else as well, just need a safe place to practice!

[fishbulb]

Hi Robin! Good to see you back here! It was such a strange experience. I have been to countless fantasy / goth / medieval fairs where there was always swordfighting going on and it never really pulled my interest. But yesterday, I lifted this sword (I never held a sword before) out of it's glass case, and I swear it was like it spoke to me. It wanted to feel the air swoosh and it wanted me to run outside so the sunshine could reflect off it, once again. There was nobody else in the library at that point so I danced around with it and it was like I had more balance too, I could stand on one leg effortlessly while waving it around me! I think I could beat an army of Orcs with a sword like that! I really really really did not want to put it down, but the museum guy was coming to collect it, so I had to.

So I might take you up on your offer! It won't be anytime soon because I just spent every last penny I could think of (and then some imaginary pennies too hihi) together to buy a ticket to Far Far Away, but maybe one day I'll have a sword (it won't be a beautiful shiny one though, it will be one that chopped off heads) and then I want you to teach me.