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[Rose]

^Wtf. That's awesome. And weird.

[Astica]

http://socialistworker.org/2013/04/20/between-solidarity-and-racism
I really, really hope this isn't the beginning of ongoing hostilities, but the realist in me says that this is likely to get worse.

[N.U.]

^Wtf. That's awesome. And weird.

It certainly explains why The New Girl is still on TV.

[sangrebloom]

I really don't like how sensational the media is making this!  guy at work was saying that during the gun fight the suspects were yelling things at the cops, and I have to wonder how the heck to they even know they said those things? It's all just hearsay, until facts are released or witness statements taken.  I've been sticking to updates on this (and Texas explosion) through here and NPR.   

[lentower]

http://socialistworker.org/2013/04/20/between-solidarity-and-racism
I really, really hope this isn't the beginning of ongoing hostilities, but the realist in me says that this is likely to get worse.

Not "ongoing" but continuing hostilities.

Segregation based on racial and religious difference has a long history in the USA.
New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and many other towns and city join Boston in this.


This column was origianlly published here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/20/boston-city-poised-fear-relief-empathy-anger

I suggest people use this link.  The Guardian is a much better know and respected media source.

[lentower]

Amanda just posted her third blog about this:

http://amandapalmer.net/blog/20130421/

[BATTEREDxBRIDExLUVR!]

Amanda just posted her third blog about this:

http://amandapalmer.net/blog/20130421/

The comments here are a lot more entertaining:

https://www.facebook.com/amandapalmer/posts/10151448369958375

Her position is one I ultimately agree with this time, which I guess makes it all the more unfortunate that so many people have chosen now to become disillusioned from her constant romanticizing and indulgent writing.  The comments on the facebook post have elicited from me the emotions Amanda's music used to.

I am really struggling with this story. It would be a lot easier for me if Jahar were not so likable. The magnitude of what's happened has made it so polarizing that it's difficult (for me, at least) to have any sort of meaningful or helpful discussions about it.

[lentower]

A related thread:

A Poem For Dzhokhar
http://www.theshadowbox.net/forum/index.php?topic=47642.0

[N.U.]

In the grand scheme of things, the tragedy in Boston wasn't bad at all.

I was more sad seeing the government essentially declare martial law without actually declaring martial law. Many others state it's the only way they could catch these guys so quickly. I would only mention the ex-cop that the LA cops managed to take down a couple of months ago without giving a "Shelter-in-place, no travel is allowed, don't open your private business, and we'll search what we damn well want to without a warrant" order.

How sad is it, especially in the city where the American Revolution began, to see my fellow citizens so willingly give up their constitutional rights all for some fleeting notion of "safety."

[CeeGBee]

In the grand scheme of things, the tragedy in Boston wasn't bad at all.

I was more sad seeing the government essentially declare martial law without actually declaring martial law. Many others state it's the only way they could catch these guys so quickly. I would only mention the ex-cop that the LA cops managed to take down a couple of months ago without giving a "Shelter-in-place, no travel is allowed, don't open your private business, and we'll search what we damn well want to without a warrant" order.

How sad is it, especially in the city where the American Revolution began, to see my fellow citizens so willingly give up their constitutional rights all for some fleeting notion of "safety."

Given the scarcity of hard facts available to law-enforcement in the instant, I would far
prefer they over-reach a bit and inconvenience a few people, than fail to take sufficient
measures and get more people killed.... if something similar happened in my town.

Doubtless if they come back and arrest some guy because they noticed a 30-gallon trash
bag full of weed while they were searching his house for a mad bomber, it'll make for an
interesting court case.

[Astica]

As I understand it, that thing with the ex-cop was a god damned disaster that saw multiple civilians shot by police anyway, so the lock-down was probably for the best to protect Bostonians (apparently that's a word?) from bombers and cops alike. Remember that you're eight times more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist.

[sangrebloom]

That whole Dorner thing is the other extreme, they were knee-jerk and acting with no real plan, and the victims ended up with only a dead body and no explanations other than the manifesto, which was disjointed with moments of clarity.