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[imaginary friend]

"god put a smile on your face" - Coldplay

[Roguefae]

The Anarchy and the Ecstasy -The World Inferno Friendship Society.

[CeeGBee]

I'm SO excited to see the first movie later this year. Apparently they've added in some bits from another book - Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-Earth, I think, and possibly a bit of the Silmarillion as well - to make it more obviously lead into LOTR. I'm very keen xD

I'm actually rather a bit irritated, as The Hobbit was conceived and executed as a nice story
for kids and other such readers.  The heavy story lines of LoTR came a bit later.

I kinda hope P.Jackson & Co. will edit together a "the way it was written" version for the
DVD release.  It'd mostly be a matter of cutting out stuff that only got put in to justify
making TWO movies (and so selling twice as many obscenely-overpriced tickets) in the
first place.


Okay, that should read "I wish P. J..... would...", but hey, a guy can dream.

[Indja]

^But they're making the film for a different audience entirely. The people who will go and see this movie will be going with LOTR in mind, so it's pretty reasonable to play to that fact. My dad got huffy about it, but the way I think of it is that it's an adaptation, not just a translation onto the big screen, and so certain things have to change. It has to be a film appropriate for the audience that's going to see it - and that audience will want it to be more like LOTR than the original book. It doesn't bother me any more than cutting out Tom Bombadil and the scouring of the Shire bothered me. These things have to happen, and it's still going to be a cracking two movies.

Also, Benedict Cumberbatch is playing Smaug <3 !!

Also-er, do cinema tickets really cost that much? It's like £6 here, which is fair enough. It's the popcorn and drinks that'll get you. Also-er-er, there's no way you could make something as epic and awesome as the Hobbit and LOTR without racking up some serious bills, and I'd rather they did it expensively or not at all than not doing it well.

[absynth aura]

Don't Talk With Your Mouth Open - Heartsounds

[CeeGBee]

^But they're making the film for a different audience entirely. The people who will go and see this movie will be going with LOTR in mind, so it's pretty reasonable to play to that fact. My dad got huffy about it, but the way I think of it is that it's an adaptation, not just a translation onto the big screen, and so certain things have to change. It has to be a film appropriate for the audience that's going to see it - and that audience will want it to be more like LOTR than the original book. It doesn't bother me any more than cutting out Tom Bombadil and the scouring of the Shire bothered me. These things have to happen, and it's still going to be a cracking two movies.

Also, Benedict Cumberbatch is playing Smaug <3 !!

Also-er, do cinema tickets really cost that much? It's like £6 here, which is fair enough. It's the popcorn and drinks that'll get you. Also-er-er, there's no way you could make something as epic and awesome as the Hobbit and LOTR without racking up some serious bills, and I'd rather they did it expensively or not at all than not doing it well.

Cutting out Bombadil and The Inquisition served a necessary purpose:
- Tom B would have added another 20-30 minutes to the film without advancing the
   central story line AT ALL.
- ....and the Scouring of The Shire would have tacked on ANOTHER 20 minutes of
  essentially nothing but epilogue... again, irrelevant to the main story.

The way he's re-arranging The Hobbit, he's making Rings: Episode I, The Circular Menace
[rant]
The Hobbit isn't a LoTR prequel;
it's an independent children's story that would have fit nicely into a single fairly-conventional-length
motion picture, and which just happens to set the stage for the Trilogy.
[/rant]

I #*@^in HATE Peter Frickin' Jackson... It's not that he's a bad filmmaker, but as a screenwriter
he needs to stop needlessly dicking around with stories that were crafted by a MUCH better writer.


Anyhoo, I'll probably see the damn films, but only because someone else will doubtless volunteer to buy the
tickets.  If it were left to my money, I wouldn't see it 'til it came to NetFlix.

[Indja]

Charlie, darling, it's only a book <--- By rights, that would be a smiley lowering it's glasses to look at you with a "srsly, perspective is a beautiful thing" kind of look on its face xD

I *loved* the Hobbit when I was little, absolutely whole-heartedly and with a deep thrumming of my soul loved it. Listening to it again, it's all coming back, but now with the added pleasure of sharing it with Seamus. I cannot *wait* to read it to my kids, I'm so excited. (I'll read LOTR as well, like my dad read it to my brother and me, but I know that it'll not stick until they're older and read it themselves, like it didn't with me. All I remember from him reading it is that I liked Sam a lot, there was a big mountain, something dark and scary that I didn't like which followed them around (Gollum?) and lots and lots of trees.) But I don't want to see a film that tries to copy that. I want to see the next Peter Jackson-y take on the story of Middle Earth. They're not the same thing, and I'm cool with that. I personally really liked the LOTR films - haven't seen anything else by Peter Jackson to my knowledge, so I can't say if I like him or not, but I loved what he did with LOTR. But it's not the same as reading or being read the book, it's got stupid 'comedy' lines from Gimli and lots of 'splosions and not as much singing and that's fine because it's not a translation, it's an adaptation. It's like complaining that the BBC's Sherlock Holmes doesn't do cocaine and ride in hansom cabs and he calls Watson 'John' and is all post-modern and homoerotic and sexy. It's not the same beast as Conan Doyle's books, and that's just fine.


Now take a deep breath and go watch the Princess Bride. Nothing can be wrong with the world while that film is on.

[CeeGBee]

Charlie, darling, it's only a book <--- By rights, that would be a smiley lowering it's glasses to look at you with a "srsly, perspective is a beautiful thing" kind of look on its face xD

thus?

I *loved* the Hobbit when I was little, absolutely whole-heartedly and with a deep thrumming of my soul loved it. Listening to it again, it's all coming back, but now with the added pleasure of sharing it with Seamus. I cannot *wait* to read it to my kids, I'm so excited. (I'll read LOTR as well, like my dad read it to my brother and me, but I know that it'll not stick until they're older and read it themselves, like it didn't with me. All I remember from him reading it is that I liked Sam a lot, there was a big mountain, something dark and scary that I didn't like which followed them around (Gollum?) and lots and lots of trees.) But I don't want to see a film that tries to copy that. I want to see the next Peter Jackson-y take on the story of Middle Earth. They're not the same thing, and I'm cool with that. I personally really liked the LOTR films - haven't seen anything else by Peter Jackson to my knowledge, so I can't say if I like him or not, but I loved what he did with LOTR. But it's not the same as reading or being read the book, it's got stupid 'comedy' lines from Gimli and lots of 'splosions and not as much singing and that's fine because it's not a translation, it's an adaptation. It's like complaining that the BBC's Sherlock Holmes doesn't do cocaine and ride in hansom cabs and he calls Watson 'John' and is all post-modern and homoerotic and sexy. It's not the same beast as Conan Doyle's books, and that's just fine.

Not you, Peter Jackson....

Now take a deep breath and go watch the Princess Bride. Nothing can be wrong with the world while that film is on.

I must go to bed....  Maybe I'll watch P.B. tomorrow...
...and be reminded of what a lighthearted movie, suitable for small kids and adults,
without a bunch of corporate, merch-oriented baggage can look like.

[Indja]

^I approve of everything, except the poor girl at the top is clearly the victim of some terrible shirt-stealing monster. She'll catch cold, going out like that.

[spider jerusalem]

Field Music - Let's write a book

[Astica]

The Addams Family soundtrack!

[Savannah]

Katy Perry - ET

She definitely is not the kind of musician i'd like to listen to, but this song is sooo sticky and sounds good while working on a project.

[The Angel Raliel]

Amanda Palmer palys Radiohead...IN THE PUB!

[Savannah]

Garbage - Milk

[imaginary friend]

"Darkness" - Leonard Cohen, from the new album that comes out next week, Old Ideas.