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No Man is an Island
« on: October 20, 2008, 01:11:12 PM »

So I am writing an essay for my Philosophy class. It was supposed to be on the Philosophy of Religion but...I had some personal issues with the questions that were asked and me teacher told me I could about whatever I wanted, basically. Anyway, I chose to write about the things that I use in lieu of religion as a support system. I am an agnostic, and I am non-religious, but I still believe that people, in general, need a system of support to hold themselves together even if they aren't religious. I've heard so many atheists claim that religion is just a crutch and that they don't need it; well, from what I have observed, we all use and need crutches, and they come in all sorts of various forms.

Anyway, to get to my question; I was looking for philosophers who supported my viewpoint. I wanted to put the whole "No man is an island" concept in there, but John Donne was not a philosopher, he was a poet. So I wanted to know if any of you lovely people knew of any philosophers who might have writings that supported the concept of needing a system of support/not being an island.

It's really shitty trying to find them from scratch. :[ Thanks!
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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 02:29:25 PM »

Do your own homework, stink face. XD
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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 03:02:04 PM »

Since when are "poet" and "philosopher" mutually exclusive?

Anyway, I know somewhere around here I've got a couple of writings by some of the
Fathers of Western Thought (you know, Pla-dough, Soccerball, Arse-tot-hole, that crowd)
that would support your thesis....

Alas, they're at the bottom of a pile or the back of a shelf somewhere...

Doubtless there are searchable databases readily available...
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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2008, 03:08:50 PM »

Since when are "poet" and "philosopher" mutually exclusive?

I dont think that they are, necessarily, but my professor says I can't use him.

Anyway, the information on the Usual Suspects (Aristotle, Socrates, Plato) is so wide...if you have any leads (like specific titles) that would be awesome. But ew, don't go digging for it. It's definitely not that important.

Thanks :]
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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2008, 03:58:30 PM »

Since when are "poet" and "philosopher" mutually exclusive?

I dont think that they are, necessarily, but my professor says I can't use him.

Anyway, the information on the Usual Suspects (Aristotle, Socrates, Plato, Keyser Soze) is so wide...if you have any leads (like specific titles) that would be awesome. But ew, don't go digging for it. It's definitely not that important.

Thanks :]

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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2008, 10:00:51 PM »

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Do your own homework

I'm so glad a younger person posted this, because it was my first thought, but I felt too old-curmudgeon you-kids-get-offa-my-lawn-y actually thinking about posting it.
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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2008, 10:07:08 PM »

Since when are "poet" and "philosopher" mutually exclusive?

goddamit i wanted that line!

i'm not gonna let you be the ken doll anymore.
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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2008, 12:45:06 AM »

Since when are "poet" and "philosopher" mutually exclusive?

I dont think that they are, necessarily, but my professor says I can't use him.

Anyway, the information on the Usual Suspects (Aristotle, Socrates, Plato, Keyser Soze) is so wide...if you have any leads (like specific titles) that would be awesome. But ew, don't go digging for it. It's definitely not that important.

Thanks :]

Ftw.  ;D

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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2008, 06:31:14 AM »

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Do your own homework

I'm so glad a younger person posted this, because it was my first thought, but I felt too old-curmudgeon you-kids-get-offa-my-lawn-y actually thinking about posting it.

Oh lord - was I accidentally responsible again? I mainly meant it as a joke. You're just old and smelly.
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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2008, 05:34:49 PM »

Do you need to cite the work of other philosophers to prove your point/get an A in this assignment?
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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2008, 05:44:27 PM »

Do you need to cite the work of other philosophers to prove your point/get an A in this assignment?
That would be typical.

Before a philosophy student's views are afforded any value of their own, they must be
shown to be in agreement with previously-accepted authorities.
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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2008, 05:46:18 PM »

That's why I loathed my philosophy class... and made permanent friends with my philosophy professor.
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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2008, 07:23:07 PM »

Since my dad moved to Edinburgh 20 years and as a result could no longer practice Judaism he has worked far too hard. He still goes to the synagogue in Glasgow from time to time but now it just depresses him and he comes back to Edinburgh and works some more.
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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2008, 08:34:17 PM »

Do you need to cite the work of other philosophers to prove your point/get an A in this assignment?

Normally, yes. Right now I have over 100% in the class, so I could afford to leave them off, but it makes up for my lo=wer grade in Algebra to have high-ass philo grades.

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That's why I loathed my philosophy class... and made permanent friends with my philosophy professor.

Yep. I am friends with mine too. That's why he's letting me do something completely different from the assigned essay....but he still wants to philosophers. :[

It isn't that I dont want to do my homework, it's that the research is giving me fits.
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Re: No Man is an Island
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2008, 08:51:15 PM »

Do you need to cite the work of other philosophers to prove your point/get an A in this assignment?

Normally, yes. Right now I have over 100% in the class, so I could afford to leave them off, but it makes up for my lo=wer grade in Algebra to have high-ass philo grades.

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That's why I loathed my philosophy class... and made permanent friends with my philosophy professor.

Yep. I am friends with mine too. That's why he's letting me do something completely different from the assigned essay....but he still wants to philosophers. :[

It isn't that I dont want to do my homework, it's that the research is giving me fits.

I can help with the algebra thing.
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