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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #135 on: February 01, 2009, 07:29:50 PM »

Again, an example of this would be appreciated so that I can avoid doing it in the future.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #136 on: February 01, 2009, 07:32:28 PM »

The fact that it did effect the whole board is what astonishes me.  It was weird. It was stupid.  Whatever.  I don't believe that he intended to mock anyone.  He made outlandish claims but, again, whatever. 

Perhaps this will be a lesson for some not to get so emotionally invested in a person on a message board who they have never met.  I understand that this board is somewhat different than others in that many people do know each other in 'real life' or have made friends because of it.  But that whole line of posts saying that because this is the Dresden Dolls board they instantly trust someone or feel a connection to them is insane to me.  To trust someone online (more than you would someone else) because they like the Dolls is pretty naive and has the potential to be dangerous. 

I don't like or dislike Man Alice either way (well, his excessive posting gets to me), but I don't think what he did has warranted this amount of outrage.  Get over it.

He instigated us investing our emotions, he posted as a vulnerable girl, he deceived us. He should leave.

I'm trying really hard to understand how you guys feel, but I can't.  You didn't know "her" yet believed everything "she" posted despite the fact that it all seemed really implausible.  You allowed yourselves to be effected (it seems really strongly) by what "she" had to say, again, despite the fact that you had no idea whether or not any of it was true.  Not to sound callous, but if you allowed yourself to be made upset over this situation, it is your own fault.

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The old "you brought it on yourself" line. How insightful! Perhaps it is my fault when people I know do shitty things to me, too!
No, what alice did is on alice and alice alone.

It's strange that you keep reiterating this idea.
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So in conclusion it wasn't all the sex you were having, it was his suspicion that you were a vagina elf drug dealer.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #137 on: February 01, 2009, 07:34:12 PM »

The fact that it did effect the whole board is what astonishes me.  It was weird. It was stupid.  Whatever.  I don't believe that he intended to mock anyone.  He made outlandish claims but, again, whatever. 

Perhaps this will be a lesson for some not to get so emotionally invested in a person on a message board who they have never met.  I understand that this board is somewhat different than others in that many people do know each other in 'real life' or have made friends because of it.  But that whole line of posts saying that because this is the Dresden Dolls board they instantly trust someone or feel a connection to them is insane to me.  To trust someone online (more than you would someone else) because they like the Dolls is pretty naive and has the potential to be dangerous. 

I don't like or dislike Man Alice either way (well, his excessive posting gets to me), but I don't think what he did has warranted this amount of outrage.  Get over it.
He instigated us investing our emotions, he posted as a vulnerable girl, he deceived us. He should leave.

I'm trying really hard to understand how you guys feel, but I can't.  You didn't know "her" yet believed everything "she" posted despite the fact that it all seemed really implausible.  You allowed yourselves to be effected (it seems really strongly) by what "she" had to say, again, despite the fact that you had no idea whether or not any of it was true.  Not to sound callous, but if you allowed yourself to be made upset over this situation, it is your own fault.
So it's ok for him to continue posting? I'm sorry, but if this was real life, a real community (which for me, it is, there are many people here I communicate with through other media, and a few I know personally) this would not be the reaction. I just cannot ever like or tolerate someone who posted such things and led us to believe them and questioned us when we didn't. I just don't believe that someone who has done this is a good person or someone I want around here..

I just keep up with the topics that I've posted in. I'm sorry that it annoys you, but I will continue to post when and where I please. I don't post unless I feel I have something to add or express. Why is high activity seen as a bad thing? I just have a lot of free time. As you may have noticed, my post count has actually gone down recently.
It's not a bad thing. But you could certainly condense 10 of your one line posts into one. when I go to my "unread posts" section, 90% are by you. And not one of these posts are worth reading. Fair enough, we have last poster wins and blah, but I'd like to point out that your daily post count is more than half of our average TOTAL daily posts. One man conversations are boring.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #138 on: February 01, 2009, 07:38:31 PM »

I don't hold one man conversations. Seriously, give me an example so I can see what you mean, and I'll bear it in mind to alter my posting habits.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #139 on: February 01, 2009, 07:47:52 PM »

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My unread replies page. STFU and let someone else talk. I'm not going to adapt to you posting so much, this just isn't how it has ever worked around here. You want to make us happy? Adapt to our ways, just cut down a little, you're obsessive.

And again, you're accounting for OVER half of our daily posts. Indicative of a one man conversation.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #140 on: February 01, 2009, 07:50:18 PM »

You're being unreasonable. My posting doesn't cut others out of the conversation. If anything, it adds to it. And this:

Seriously, give me an example so I can see what you mean, and I'll bear it in mind to alter my posting habits.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #141 on: February 01, 2009, 07:52:02 PM »

The fact that it did effect the whole board is what astonishes me.  It was weird. It was stupid.  Whatever.  I don't believe that he intended to mock anyone.  He made outlandish claims but, again, whatever. 

Perhaps this will be a lesson for some not to get so emotionally invested in a person on a message board who they have never met.  I understand that this board is somewhat different than others in that many people do know each other in 'real life' or have made friends because of it.  But that whole line of posts saying that because this is the Dresden Dolls board they instantly trust someone or feel a connection to them is insane to me.  To trust someone online (more than you would someone else) because they like the Dolls is pretty naive and has the potential to be dangerous. 

I don't like or dislike Man Alice either way (well, his excessive posting gets to me), but I don't think what he did has warranted this amount of outrage.  Get over it.
He instigated us investing our emotions, he posted as a vulnerable girl, he deceived us. He should leave.

I'm trying really hard to understand how you guys feel, but I can't.  You didn't know "her" yet believed everything "she" posted despite the fact that it all seemed really implausible.  You allowed yourselves to be effected (it seems really strongly) by what "she" had to say, again, despite the fact that you had no idea whether or not any of it was true.  Not to sound callous, but if you allowed yourself to be made upset over this situation, it is your own fault.
So it's ok for him to continue posting? I'm sorry, but if this was real life, a real community (which for me, it is, there are many people here I communicate with through other media, and a few I know personally) this would not be the reaction. I just cannot ever like or tolerate someone who posted such things and led us to believe them and questioned us when we didn't. I just don't believe that someone who has done this is a good person or someone I want around here..

Despite the fact that it is a "real" community to many people (and to a certain point, I agree with that as there are real interactions taking place), a distinction has to be made.  I don't argue with anyone for becoming close with members outside of the forum, but do it with discretion.  If you wish to involve your own emotions, I recommend that it be done after a considerable period of time.  This is the internet and even though it is easy to become comfortable in the Shadowbox, one should still use the discernment they would on any other online community.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #142 on: February 01, 2009, 07:54:13 PM »

One of the things I love about Shadowbox that most other forums don't have is the closeness of its members. Most people are so welcome and close here, it's beautiful.

And yes, Alice did disrupt that bond, but could we work past repair? And yes, the posting is a constant reminder of that disruption, so coming from a healing point of view, the constant posting does worsen it just a bit.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #143 on: February 01, 2009, 07:56:02 PM »


Despite the fact that it is a "real" community to many people (and to a certain point, I agree with that as there are real interactions taking place), a distinction has to be made.  I don't argue with anyone for becoming close with members outside of the forum, but do it with discretion.  If you wish to involve your own emotions, I recommend that it be done after a considerable period of time.  This is the internet and even though it is easy to become comfortable in the Shadowbox, one should still use the discernment they would on any other online community.



What Man Alice did was hurtful regardless of how much or how little time it was done in. I think some of that even comes from the fact that a lot of us didn't believe any of it. Most of the close relationships I've noticed/heard of people building on here have been created over larger amounts of time or in the real world.
Because of that, people LIKE being on here and enjoy the other people on here. Man Alice just went ahead and made people angry by posting irritating things, non-stop and that sort of ruined some of the good things people associate with being here.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #144 on: February 01, 2009, 07:58:19 PM »

I try very hard not to irritate with the content of my posts these days. Anything previously, I can only apologise for.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #145 on: February 01, 2009, 07:59:14 PM »

Despite the fact that it is a "real" community to many people (and to a certain point, I agree with that as there are real interactions taking place), a distinction has to be made.  I don't argue with anyone for becoming close with members outside of the forum, but do it with discretion.  If you wish to involve your own emotions, I recommend that it be done after a considerable period of time.  This is the internet and even though it is easy to become comfortable in the Shadowbox, one should still use the discernment they would on any other online community.

Can one necessarily direct one's emotions? Sure, you can say to yourself "oh, ignore her, she just gets off on pretending to be righteous," but can you completely ignore someone completely? Can you really look at someone saying to you "I was raped and I'm in a psych ward," without some amount of pity in your heart, regardless of whether or not they are speaking to you in person or on the internet? Especially if 1) you were raped, 2) you were in a psych ward, and 3) you had major psychological issues?
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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #146 on: February 01, 2009, 08:00:03 PM »

You want an example? Ok, read through your user posts, then look up, say, somewhatty, Kenny Wisdom, Sylvia, Fishbulb, CeeGBee, Yosmark or Jesse.
Compare. These people all have points to make. You don't, besides arguing that your own existence here isn't futile.

I'm not being unreasonable. How is it unreasonable for me to ask you to cut down your post count? There is no sane argument here. You post too much. You are annoying. Find someone other than yourself who doesn't agree with this. then I might consider your argument. Your pointless and meaningless posts only dumb down this forum. And I'm not even going to bring up the fact that you are an offensive character and haven't really done much to make anyone feel otherwise.

Quit posting like this is an IM conversation. It's not. Try to put some thought and intelligence into your posts. Quality, not Quantity.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #147 on: February 01, 2009, 08:09:55 PM »

Quit posting like this is an IM conversation. It's not. Try to put some thought and intelligence into your posts. Quality, not Quantity.
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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #148 on: February 01, 2009, 08:11:07 PM »

http://www.theshadowbox.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2754;sa=showPosts
http://www.theshadowbox.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=697;sa=showPosts

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Racism or sexism?
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Show me the difference, Haushinka. Show me where Yoshi's posts get more meaningful and deep than mine. I'm just online more, that's the only difference.

And you are being unreasonable. You're asking me to change my posting habits because it annoys you. Your posting habits annoy me. Why shouldn't I tell you do change yours?
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Re: THE OFFICIAL ALYSS/MAN ALICE HATE/LOVE/Bitch&Moan thread
« Reply #149 on: February 01, 2009, 08:16:15 PM »

http://www.theshadowbox.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2754;sa=showPosts
http://www.theshadowbox.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=697;sa=showPosts

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Racism or sexism?
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Yeah & about Rob Zombie re-doing Halloween 2, I am not excited as I am a fan of Halloween & I thought his remake sucked.

Show me the difference, Haushinka. Show me where Yoshi's posts get more meaningful and deep than mine. I'm just online more, that's the only difference.

And you are being unreasonable. You're asking me to change my posting habits because it annoys you. Your posting habits annoy me. Why shouldn't I tell you do change yours?

I hope you understand that by choosing him to compare yourself to you're getting personal. Yoshiki can post whatever the fuck he likes, and you know why? Because he is a longstanding member of this community, he has never ever offended anybody like you have and never will. Here's something else to consider- Yoshiki posts about things he likes and dislikes, and maybe posts 10 a day. You post about nothing of any relevance, at a rate of 150 a day.

People care about Yoshiki. A hell of a lot more people than care about you.

So, how exactly have my posting habits annoyed you?
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