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Re: Trolling
« Reply #60 on: January 31, 2009, 06:51:28 PM »

Two years is extremely ambitious when you look at most people. It takes them years, even after they finish university to perfect their skills. Let's go on Neil Gaiman, who took twenty years to write the amazing Graveyard Book, so sometime in the next forty years? We'll see in forty years.
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« Reply #61 on: January 31, 2009, 06:55:12 PM »

Script writers tend to get up and running faster than novelists. There's a lot of projects, workshops and competitions specifically for young script writers.
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« Reply #62 on: January 31, 2009, 06:57:31 PM »

Yeah, but you still need an amazing amount of talent to win one of those.

Still, we'll see in forty years.
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Re: Trolling
« Reply #63 on: January 31, 2009, 06:57:46 PM »

I think it's funny that I'm still being kind of annoyed.
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« Reply #64 on: January 31, 2009, 06:58:32 PM »

Yeah, you really ought to get over it.
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« Reply #65 on: January 31, 2009, 07:11:22 PM »

Wooooooooooooo, a writing contest!


Hey Alyss, give us an example of your art.  No bullshitting, I really wanna see what you can do.  <3
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« Reply #66 on: January 31, 2009, 08:22:14 PM »

I try to stick to 170 a day. But so did Alice.
But "Alyss' " posts had substance, even when people found it irritating.

So much of what you've posted over the last couple of days has been utterly pointless banter...
...such as that used by classic postwhores for no reason but to run up their post-counts.

True that!

Why would you try to stick to such a high number, there was a rule that claimmed a post limit per day which was 20 or 30...  but meh.
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« Reply #67 on: January 31, 2009, 10:15:58 PM »

Yoshi: It just happened to be that high after my first fay of posting. So I thought 'might as well stick to that...' I didn't arrive on the forum and go 'hmm, what's an annoyingly high number of posts per day...'

caddy.net: Here's a sample of work. The Mortician's Daughter is still under construction, Butterfly I directed at my school the year after I left, and Delicate, Ugly I haven't got marks back for yet. The Last Rope is a piece I did last year and got a 1st for.

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Re: Trolling
« Reply #68 on: February 01, 2009, 01:26:53 AM »

Is one of those the apocalyptic "I'm bleeding to death here in our
bombed-out apartment, let's have sex" story?

Five minutes of my life I'm never gonna get back.  :angry7:
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« Reply #69 on: February 01, 2009, 05:07:01 AM »

I think it's funny that I'm still being kind of annoyed.

Yeah, you really ought to get over it.

You really ought to not push it.
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« Reply #70 on: February 01, 2009, 10:17:06 AM »

Is one of those the apocalyptic "I'm bleeding to death here in our
bombed-out apartment, let's have sex" story?

Five minutes of my life I'm never gonna get back.  :angry7:
That would be Delicate, Ugly.

I think it's funny that I'm still being kind of annoyed.

Yeah, you really ought to get over it.

You really ought to not push it.
Agreed. I'm trying to leave people alone and not start anything, but seriously, when certain individuals to go out of their way to begin arguments with me...
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« Reply #71 on: February 01, 2009, 01:07:14 PM »

Is one of those the apocalyptic "I'm bleeding to death here in our
bombed-out apartment, let's have sex" story?

Five minutes of my life I'm never gonna get back.  :angry7:

Actually, I kinda felt the same way about it.  I haven't seen the finished product, but most script readers only read the first...ten pages or so.  If they find fault with it within those first few lines, then...*finger across throat*.  That was far too...*blinks*...I don't want to say cheesy, because that's rude.  Hackneyed would be the word I'm looking for.  For Delicate, Ugly, I could have gone without the lazy, silly sex stuff.  I love post-apocalyptic stories, so you were sorta buying me (on the story, not the dialogue) up until that point.  Then it just got...ugh. 

The Mortician's Daughter...I didn't make it past the first two pages.

Butterfly, I didn't make it past the first five pages.  Then again, I was major sleepy by then, and didn't want to read that much.


The Last Rope....was also a bit hackneyed, BUT it was the only one with a story I was interested in.  I wanted to find out wtf was going to happen to Syo, and what had happened to the other brother.  I figured sacrifice, but I wanted to see how the sacrifice played out, and what the curse was all about on their village.  I didn't finish it, merely because I wanted to finish the others.

I think, and this is just me, that if you cut all the filler lines, and the sappy-soppy love bullshit from the first five-six pages on The Last Rope, and actually work on it, you've got a story today's audience might enjoy.


Also, as for the overall ability to write, I think you need a lot more work at writing dialogue.  It's very hard to write a script, because in a script, you have to actually create people, make them interesting, and then make them believable without being realistic.  If the dialogue is bogus, nobody is going to like your script, regardless of how great the story might be.  I used to love writing screenplays, until I realized I sorta sucked at dialogue.  I've improved since, but really...I mean...*finger down throat*...it hurt.  Even now I've adapted a style in my storywriting that makes the plot/setting/action the focus, and not the dialogue.


Anywho, keep writing.  =D
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« Reply #72 on: February 01, 2009, 01:27:48 PM »

Yeah, but you still need an amazing amount of talent to win one of those.

Still, we'll see in forty years.

Actually, you don't. You only have to be the best of those who entered.  8)

 :-X


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« Reply #73 on: February 01, 2009, 01:32:52 PM »

Quick, one of you who feels like taking the time and bother to do it...
(and maybe knows the original a lot better than I do...)

I wanna see a song-parody:  Trollin' Dirty   ;D

Edit:  Just to demonstrate the degree to which I don't know the material to be parodied,
I was simultaneously thinking of Rollin' (Limp Bizkit, right?) and Ridin' Dirty...)
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« Reply #74 on: February 01, 2009, 02:58:43 PM »

Is one of those the apocalyptic "I'm bleeding to death here in our
bombed-out apartment, let's have sex" story?

Five minutes of my life I'm never gonna get back.  :angry7:

Actually, I kinda felt the same way about it.  I haven't seen the finished product, but most script readers only read the first...ten pages or so.  If they find fault with it within those first few lines, then...*finger across throat*.  That was far too...*blinks*...I don't want to say cheesy, because that's rude.  Hackneyed would be the word I'm looking for.  For Delicate, Ugly, I could have gone without the lazy, silly sex stuff.  I love post-apocalyptic stories, so you were sorta buying me (on the story, not the dialogue) up until that point.  Then it just got...ugh. 

The Mortician's Daughter...I didn't make it past the first two pages.

Butterfly, I didn't make it past the first five pages.  Then again, I was major sleepy by then, and didn't want to read that much.


The Last Rope....was also a bit hackneyed, BUT it was the only one with a story I was interested in.  I wanted to find out wtf was going to happen to Syo, and what had happened to the other brother.  I figured sacrifice, but I wanted to see how the sacrifice played out, and what the curse was all about on their village.  I didn't finish it, merely because I wanted to finish the others.

I think, and this is just me, that if you cut all the filler lines, and the sappy-soppy love bullshit from the first five-six pages on The Last Rope, and actually work on it, you've got a story today's audience might enjoy.


Also, as for the overall ability to write, I think you need a lot more work at writing dialogue.  It's very hard to write a script, because in a script, you have to actually create people, make them interesting, and then make them believable without being realistic.  If the dialogue is bogus, nobody is going to like your script, regardless of how great the story might be.  I used to love writing screenplays, until I realized I sorta sucked at dialogue.  I've improved since, but really...I mean...*finger down throat*...it hurt.  Even now I've adapted a style in my storywriting that makes the plot/setting/action the focus, and not the dialogue.


Anywho, keep writing.  =D
Huh...with a 9 page script, where the section of dialogue you mention doesn't come in until page 6, you'd think that wouldn't be a problem...

Re: The Last Rope; I really don't see the need to rework a script I got a 1st on.

As for the others...well, I don't agree with your opinion. But we'll see. The positive feedback of teachers and classmates can well be useless.
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