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Re: Gayness
« Reply #2730 on: August 23, 2012, 07:38:05 PM »

Dress her up in as a fella, go for dinner at your parents and then when you're both leaving and they've decided they like her as a person, rip off her fake moustache as she throws her hat into the bushes, letting her luxurious and unmistakably feminine hair tumble down her back and both shout, "TOODLE-OO, MUTHAFUCKAS!" before jumping onto a motorbike with 'Pussy Wagon' written on it in large pink letters and riding off into the sunset. Obv.



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Re: Gayness
« Reply #2731 on: August 23, 2012, 11:09:25 PM »

Xanthea, do they know you're gay?

They do not and I am the eldest child. They know 0 gay people.

Hmm, I think trying to find a more open minded person (seeing as my sisters are not) they respect is potentially a good plan.

Has anyone had any similar experiences?
I dunno, pretty much the two reactions I get from people is:
"lol, you're screwed"
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"my parents attend gay pride parades" and can't really relate...

It's slightly demoralising.
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #2732 on: August 23, 2012, 11:12:28 PM »

Dress her up in as a fella, go for dinner at your parents and then when you're both leaving and they've decided they like her as a person, rip off her fake moustache as she throws her hat into the bushes, letting her luxurious and unmistakably feminine hair tumble down her back and both shout, "TOODLE-OO, MUTHAFUCKAS!" before jumping onto a motorbike with 'Pussy Wagon' written on it in large pink letters and riding off into the sunset. Obv.





Totes up for that shit. Can I borrow a motorbike? I'm also happy with just a wagon full of kittens.
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #2733 on: August 24, 2012, 12:25:48 PM »

I think Agonistes might have a bike you could borrow... xD
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #2734 on: August 24, 2012, 01:23:46 PM »

Xanthea, do they know you're gay?

They do not and I am the eldest child. They know 0 gay people.

Hmm, I think trying to find a more open minded person (seeing as my sisters are not) they respect is potentially a good plan.

Has anyone had any similar experiences?
I dunno, pretty much the two reactions I get from people is:
"lol, you're screwed"
OR
"my parents attend gay pride parades" and can't really relate...

It's slightly demoralising.

The first thing I would do is come out to them. That way, when you do show up with your girlfriend, you've already laid the groundwork in place. And, sweetie, you have a whole group of folks here who will support you.
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #2735 on: August 24, 2012, 01:34:38 PM »

In seriousface, NU's right - we're all here to support you, through this and through whatever else you want to throw at us :) I'm not out to my parents, but I told my big sister that I'm bi so if I ever have someone to bring round then I'd do it with her there. Then again, I also live about 170 miles from home, so it's not too big a deal.

Coming out first sounds like a good idea, rather than springing your girlfriend on them. But then again, it might help to have her their as moral support in case they don't take it as well as you're hoping? But maybe a friend who you're out to would work as well and not be as potentially 'threatening' to your parents.
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #2736 on: August 25, 2012, 02:39:41 AM »

Thanks guys, it's nice to hear some useful advice.
I'll let you know how/if it goes down...   O0
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #2739 on: September 29, 2012, 12:59:24 AM »

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Re: Gayness
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« Reply #2741 on: September 30, 2012, 06:05:23 PM »

^ good.  :)


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Re: Gayness
« Reply #2742 on: October 01, 2012, 01:17:31 AM »

Not sure if this was discussed already, does anyone have that group of coworkers, or family members, or classmates, or friends, or group of people, who think it's okay to make jokes about gay people or say, 'That's so gay.', or 'What a faggot!', around you because you're their gay friend?

I understand that some gay people don't find any gay joke offensive, or even the word 'faggot' offensive, but I do. In some light. When another gay person uses the f-word in a none hateful manner then I'm fine with it, unless they're saying it to call on someone who may or may not be in the closet I'm not cool with that at all. But anyway, I was just wondering if any gay or straight person that know a group of people who think it's okay to make anti-gay remarks because you're gay, or you're a super supportive person.

Today at work I was with my manager and other co-worker and we were in the back discussing kids or something, and my manager says to me that I can't have kids. My co-worker, by the way, is a lesbian who we'll call Karen; we're the two rainbows at work as everyone likes to refer to us. Anywho, I explain to my manager that I can in fact have kids because I have reproductive organs just like him and can therefore have children if I find a consenting adult and he was texting the whole time and ignored me. Bollocks. Afterward he said to me, "You know, Karen never complains when we make jokes." And I'm standing there thinking, "Maybe because Karen's too nice to say anything back to you, or maybe because Karen has a line where your jokes are okay and my line is just a little bit farther from hers and therefore your jokes are actually offensive to me. I don't know, maybe because one joke is funny to someone else and really offensive to someone else. I don't know, just a thought." But I said something else and I can't remember it.  And I think he thinks it's okay because he makes fun of himself for being Asian. You know when someone makes some sort of derogatory term but justifies it by trying to make light of a discriminative term against themselves? Like, "Yeah, I can make jokes about black people and Muslims and other minorities but only because I'm a minority, too!" No.

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Re: Gayness
« Reply #2743 on: October 01, 2012, 03:43:10 AM »

^I think it's important to make sure that you take each individual's opinion into account. So just because one gay person or a group of gay people don't find something offensive, doesn't mean you get to be a dick when someone else does. Causing offence is important - I'm really all for it in certain circumstances - but it's got to be conscious, deliberate offence or it's meaningless and is just you being a dick. If you're accidentally offending someone and then they ask you to stop, you have a choice of whether offending them is something you're actively looking to do or not, and if it isn't something you meant to do then fucking quit it. It's a matter of respect, I guess, respecting individual people.

I think it's a different beast when it's LGBT people saying things, but even then it's about purpose and understanding the meaning of what you say in the light of your relationship with the person you're saying it to. So I have no problem saying things like "Fucking dykes!" in exasperation if my friend Sorcha annoys me and she has no problem calling me a greedy bitch when I say something about being bi, but either of those things from someone else would be a fucking skinning offence.

I heard somewhere that racism is power plus prejudice and that's the same I think for queerphobia - it's not queerphobic for a queer person to say those things because they're not speaking from a position of power, they're the oppressed. Like it's not racist if a black person refers to another black person as 'nigger' - they aren't speaking from a position of power so it's not oppressive. There might be other issues with it, but it's not 'racist' as such. But that only extends through the sort of area in question, so a straight black person making remarks regarding the sexuality of queer people is speaking from a position of power in the same way a queer white person making remarks regarding the race of black people is in a position of power. Does that make any kind of sense? xD
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #2744 on: October 01, 2012, 10:00:50 PM »

^ It does! I can see where Sean is coming from too.
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