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Re: Gayness
« Reply #180 on: May 10, 2009, 05:04:08 PM »

It had sex with the have you ever thread and answered yes to all the questions.
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #181 on: May 13, 2009, 02:44:33 PM »

I missed it. EFF. I shouldn't have left the box so long. ;;
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #182 on: May 13, 2009, 03:39:52 PM »

So, are you gay?
yes.  i've been a professional lesbian for twenty years.  before that, i freelanced as a lesbian.

 Are you LGBT, undecided or other?
just L.

 Do you think these categories are useful or oppressive?
useful as description, useless politically, or until they are used as things to hide behind or to force others into inclusion.

 When did you first know you were gay?
julie andrews told me.  of course she thought she was just doing a movie but i took one look at that novice habit and i was a worshipper of sappho from that day on.  judy garland also whispered impure thoughts to my child mind.  as did my neighbor, who was my age and experimental.

 Are you in or out of the closet?
i came out loudly and embarrassingly in college and formed a gay student union with one other gay gal and a gay boy from the theater dept.  no one else would join because no one was gay back then, including my girlfriend.

 If it's the latter then how did you come out?
my mother read my journal and found out and tried to have me committed.  since it was the early nineties and not 1956, everyone laughed at her.

 Also, how did people react and what changes took place in your life (if any) when you did come out?
most people didn't care.  those that did, i took great pleasure in annoying.

 Are you not gay but have had 'gay experiences'? (details)
i've experimented twice in school with heterosexuality, but i was really, really drunk.

  What does being gay mean to you?
it means i sleep with girls instead of guys.  oh, and i have no fashion sense but i can build shit in my sleep.  haha.

 Do you 'wear' it?
i wear tattoos and tee shirts.  i AM gay.  if it shows, ok.

 Do you fall into, break or try to avoid gay stereotypes?
not really but i can spot them a mile off and they make me laugh just as hard as other stereotypes.  i'm sure i fit into a couple of stereotypes but they are subtle ones, other than the wallet chain and the motorcycle and the tattoos and the female holding my hand.

 How much does it define your personality?
well, i'm a female supremacist....so i suppose i'd listen to a woman before a guy, speaking to me equally.  not saying that is fair, just saying it's probably true.

  Do you associate yourself with gay music and media like 'queercore'?
never heard of 'queercore.'  i used to have a 'pansy division' cd.  i hate most lesbian-centric music, though.  i like what i like, music is misused as political.  it's entertainment first.

 Do you have people you look up to in the LGBT community and if so, why?
i have people i look up to but it is because they are people who do something worth looking up to and not because they are in a community.  if they happen to be part of a community, it is usually because that community looks up to them too, and therefore claims them.

 Have you ever encountered prejudice?
yes.

 If so, what kind?
oh, the usual.  social, racial, sexual, etc.  plus i am covered with tattoos, like i said a time or three.  there are all kinds of prejudice...
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #183 on: May 16, 2009, 02:40:34 PM »

I'm really digging reading what everyone has to say about sexuality. So, my turn.

So, are you gay? Are you LGBT, undecided or other?
I call myself a lesbian. I CAN be attracted to males, yes, but I am not going to go out of my way to date one as I do with females. So, while I could say I am bisexual, I don't simply because I am only actively seeking the ladies. Never ruling out a guy, tho.

Do you think these categories are useful or oppressive?
I think any type of label has the potential to be oppresive, to be used to gloss over the beauty of human complexity so people won't be so frightened of it. However, these labels can also help people better understand sexuality as whole, I think.

When did you first know you were gay?
A long arse time ago, though it came along with the usual denial b.s.

Are you in or out of the closet? If it's the latter then how did you come out?
I am out to friends AND family. I came out at 16, and I told everybody. I was not going hide anything about myself for the sake of anyone else, no matter how much pain it caused me. When I look back on it now, I think going about it in that way helped me a lot.

Also, how did people react and what changes took place in your life (if any) when you did come out?
Friends (with one exception, who thought I was faking) were perfectly fine with it, as I expected. My Mother just thought it odd. My Father didn't say a word about it, and still hasn't, really.

What does being gay mean to you? Do you 'wear' it? and How much does it define your personality? 
The gay part isn't an important one if you look at the whole of my being. Therefore, it does not define my personality at all.

Do you fall into, break or try to avoid gay stereotypes?
Frankly, whether or not I fall into sterotypes doesn't matter to me. If I happen to fall into a stereotype, so be it. I am who I am regardless of how society or anyone else views that.

Do you associate yourself with gay music and media like 'queercore'?
I listen to a lot of queer artists, and I listen to a lot of artists that aren't. That kind of thing is secondary. I mean, sexuality doesn't really change the overall quality of the music.

Do you have people you look up to in the LGBT community and if so, why?
Anyone who makes a point to fight the opression that the community faces.

Have you ever encountered prejudice? If so, what kind?
Oh yes. In my little city, there is one evangelical church in particular that great many people I know go to that teaches homosexuality is a sin, and I have been told politely (well, as politely as someone can say that sort of thing) that I will go to hell for being gay. It angers me a great deal, but I don't let them phase me too much.
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #184 on: May 17, 2009, 04:46:25 PM »

So, are you gay?
Yar

Are you LGBT, undecided or other?
G

Do you think these categories are useful or oppressive?
It's convenient to be able to describe things easily.

When did you first know you were gay?
Sophomore year in High school I realized that I wanted to kiss a certain guy so I thought I was bisexual.  About a year later I was being pursued by a couple attractive girls and I realized that even though I really liked them, I just was never going to like a girl "like that".

Are you in or out of the closet?
Mostly out.  Not that I'd eagerly tell future employers though...

If it's the latter then how did you come out?
I just told my mom over dinner.  She did not believe me at first but she caught on.  I told my dad a few years later and he took it much better than everyone expected.  He even seemed kind of surprise that I'd feel the need to tell him (I didn't, my mom put me up to it.)

Also, how did people react and what changes took place in your life (if any) when you did come out?
Most people reacted well.  Important ones did.

Are you not gay but have had 'gay experiences'? (details)
I've never had a heterosexual experience and don't plan to.  However I have made a few gal pals think I might be bisexual simply because I'm super cuddly and affectionate.

  What does being gay mean to you?

I <3 penis but am very vaginophobic.

Do you 'wear' it?
I'm hyper masculine.  It's not just that I don't come off as gay, I'm 6'2" 230lbs of sold muscle and have a beard.  I also talk with a moderately deep voice.

 Do you fall into, break or try to avoid gay stereotypes?
There are no gay stereotypes in my behavior, appearance or manner.  This isn't because I consciously avoid them it's just how I act.  My one stereotype is that I don't like sports.

How much does it define your personality?
I'm not sure.  I don't think it does very much.  It is worth mentioning though that I was raised primary around girls and tend to feel a lot more comfortable around them than guys.

  Do you associate yourself with gay music and media like 'queercore'?
No, I primary listen to heavy metal.  AFP/DD is more of the exception than the rule.

Do you have people you look up to in the LGBT community and if so, why?
I have a lot of respect for people that came out back in the 80s and earlier when we where still openly hated by almost everyone.  Even in the 90s it was pretty bad I guess.

 Have you ever encountered prejudice?

Yes.  In 6th grade I was very small and girly because of a late puberty and was picked on constantly for seeming gay though that stopped when I finally hit puberty and became far more muscular with a much deeper voice.
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #185 on: May 17, 2009, 04:55:22 PM »

So, are you gay?
yes.  i've been a professional lesbian for twenty years.  before that, i freelanced as a lesbian.

Ahahahaha, that is the awesomestestestnessest answer I've ever read. Ever.
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #186 on: May 17, 2009, 08:39:44 PM »

Is it just coincidence that Gayness rhymes with Anus?

Yes.

You can always start an 'anus' thread if you like.

There's a colon thread in Anarchy. It's not about what you'd think it would be about, however.

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Re: Gayness
« Reply #187 on: May 17, 2009, 08:45:16 PM »

So, are you gay?
Totally.

Are you LGBT, undecided or other?
Fag.

Do you think these categories are useful or oppressive?
I've never thought about it.

When did you first know you were gay?
I dunno. When I was about eleven and I tried to hump some guy, I guess.

Are you in or out of the closet?
Out, with a tactful foot inside.

If it's the latter then how did you come out?
I brought my boyfriend home.

Also, how did people react and what changes took place in your life (if any) when you did come out?
Nothing changed.

Are you not gay but have had 'gay experiences'? (details)
n/a

What does being gay mean to you?
Not much.

Do you 'wear' it?
I don't think so.

 Do you fall into, break or try to avoid gay stereotypes?
I don't do anything.

How much does it define your personality?
I don't know.

  Do you associate yourself with gay music and media like 'queercore'?
If it's good.

Do you have people you look up to in the LGBT community and if so, why?
Not especially.

 Have you ever encountered prejudice?
No.
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #188 on: May 18, 2009, 03:49:46 AM »

So, are you gay?
Most decidedly.

Are you LGBT, undecided or other?
I'm the L part.

Do you think these categories are useful or oppressive?
Not hardly. If something exists, it's going to be called something. Words are made to describe and labels are just words. I don't think that having those words used to describe a particular aspect of who I am is any more oppressive than the labels designed to proclaim that I am a woman, I am a brunette, I am a 20-something, whatever. It's just describing one part of who I am. It doesn't bother me at all.

When did you first know you were gay?
When I was a little kid, I always played with the boys at recess and chased little girls. When I was nine, I was unnecessarily fascinated by Scary Spice. When I was 11, we had a sex ed demonstration in which 'gay' was described. I was just like, "Oh, that's what that is." but people at school were really mean about it. I prayed they would not say that I was gay and was actually relieved when they chose to call another girl in my class horrible names and shun her because they thought she was a lesbian. I feel really horrible about it now...because of that, though, I was convinced I could just NOT be gay if I chose. In eighth grade, I had a huge crush on a girl I played basketball with and repressed that as hard as I could. I dated guys through much of high school then finally, in my senior year, I just went ahead and admitted to myself that I couldn't change who I was or who I was attracted to.

Are you in or out of the closet?
I'm out to my family and friends completely. I don't go out of my way to tell people and tend to refer to my significant others in gender neutral terms when in mixed company. If someone comes right out and asks me though, I won't lie. It's really not in my best interest to broadcast the fact to the world around here though; Ashland, KY is not the most accepting community out there.

If it's the latter then how did you come out?
To my friends, I just told them. A few of them were surprised at first and said that after they really thought about it, they should have known. For my family, I actually performed in a production of "The Laramie Project" and talked about how important tolerance was to me with my family. We had a long discussion about it and then I told them this play really affected me a lot because I identify as a lesbian. My family said they'd known for a while. My mom told me not to let it be the one thing I choose to define myself, to just be myself and not worry about broadcasting it to the world or changing the way I am just because of one single, insignificant quality.

Also, how did people react and what changes took place in your life (if any) when you did come out?
Well, I do have a really good friend who's still convinced it's just a phase...like, four years after I came out. She's a very conservative Christian and refuses to believe that I'm gay.

What does being gay mean to you?
Basically it just means that I date girls and have no interest in anything beyond friendship with males. I just can't forge that kind of connection with them.

Do you 'wear' it?
Not really. I'm on the more feminine side of the spectrum and people tend to just think I'm artsy or something.

Do you fall into, break or try to avoid gay stereotypes?
I don't go out of my way to avoid any gay stereotypes, I just do what I want to do and like what I like. Apparently I'm into a lot of "lesbian music", but aside from that, I don't really seem to fit stereotypes.

How much does it define your personality?
It doesn't define my personality. It really just affects who I date.

Do you associate yourself with gay music and media like 'queercore'?
Not really. I listen to everything.

Do you have people you look up to in the LGBT community and if so, why?
A theatre director I work with in my area is openly gay and went to Mass. to be married a few years back. He is also a board member on the Human Right Commission in my area and does a lot for the community.

Have you ever encountered prejudice?
Yes, actually. While I was doing "The Laramie Project", area people were outraged by the show and were very militant anti-gay people about it. I was quoted in the newspaper and someone looked me up on myspace and sent very horrible messages to me. Additionally, Fred Phelps came to protest a Gay Straight Alliance in the area and he and his followers yelled at all of us supporting the group that we were going to Hell. That was lovely.
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #189 on: May 24, 2009, 12:13:43 PM »

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Re: Gayness
« Reply #190 on: June 01, 2009, 05:12:46 AM »

So, are you gay?
I like girls...

Are you LGBT, undecided or other?
Haven't managed to actually say the words yet.

Do you think these categories are useful or oppressive?
Well I'm not normally one to pigeonhole, but...

When did you first know you were gay?
I first noticed things like that when I was 12

Are you in or out of the closet?
In. Well, obviously people now know on here.
My boyfriend really shouldn't find out...

If it's the latter then how did you come out?
Not yet.

Also, how did people react and what changes took place in your life (if any) when you did come out?
Well, I told my best friend and she told me she had no problem with it, to be honest I think she knew anyway. cause every time I walk with her to college I ALWAYS make her go past the hot english teacher's room, no matter how much time it adds on to our journey.

Are you not gay but have had 'gay experiences'? (details)
No gay experiences as yet.

What does being gay mean to you?
It's just another aspect of a big personality picture. It's not integral, but I'm happy it's there.

Do you 'wear' it?
I don't think so.

 Do you fall into, break or try to avoid gay stereotypes?
I don't fall into gay stereotypes except for the musical part.

How much does it define your personality?
It doesn't.

Do you associate yourself with gay music and media like 'queercore'?
Ha. Yes, though not consciously. I get into one band, who lead me to another, and to another. Turns out there's at least one lesbian in each!

Do you have people you look up to in the LGBT community and if so, why?
I'd like to say Amanda, cause she wears everything on her sleeve and she doesn't make a big deal out of it at all.

Have you ever encountered prejudice?
No.
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #191 on: June 08, 2009, 04:06:12 AM »

I'm straight. I find such labels very useful unless I encounter someone that thinks the prejudices associated with certain states of being invalidate those states. They are often hard headed and defensive. For the more calm among us, labels are how we decide with whom to set up a friend. They can be useful in informing oneself of one's own chances in pursuing a romantic interest.

I knew I was straight since I was aware of sexuality. I had strong, albeit undefined drive toward certain female babysitters when I was not yet old enough to attend kindergarten.

As a straight man, I am out of the closet, but it has not always been that way. I had to pretend to be gay for a fair bit if time.

I am not defined by my sexuality, by my sexuality is well defined. I do not adhere to straight male stereotypes, but many of them fit. The definition has nothing to do with those stereotypes. I am straight because I am attracted, exclusively, to females. I always have been. If someone is attracted, exclusively, to members of one's own sex, that person is gay. If the term "exclusively" does not describe the state of a person's attraction to sexes, the person is bisexual. Unless someone is a slave and/or fuck drone, that state should not define him or her.
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Re: Gayness
« Reply #192 on: June 08, 2009, 10:21:39 PM »

I'll admit, I have sort of wondered if you (Mr. skyyikwawks'k ) had ever felt pressured to
maintain a particular illusion while working in a certain sort of establishment.  I am reminded
of a line in that cinematic classic, Coyote Ugly: "Appear available, but never be available..."
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« Reply #193 on: June 08, 2009, 10:46:41 PM »

Pressured would be a strong word. I felt well-advised to maintian that illusion, and it wasn't just to impress the customers. Every workplace has a culture, and that sort of workplace has a very strong culture. It was good politics to be seen as gay, and... I wanted to see things from inside the fishbowl. It's very hard to hide the force that is my sexuality though, and clues about my straightness emerged... especially as Troy's interest in me increased.
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« Reply #194 on: June 09, 2009, 05:55:05 AM »

I'm straight. I find such labels very useful unless I encounter someone that thinks the prejudices associated with certain states of being invalidate those states.

I think that's a pretty good answer.
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