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Future Imperfect
« on: May 14, 2009, 09:06:06 PM »

It's a fairly new book talking about likely technological developments and how they will change society.  Here is an hour long lecture about it by the author.  I thought it was really interesting even though David Friedman is not the best speaker in the world.

http://www.cambridgeblog.org/2008/09/david-friedman-on-authorsgoogle/

Whether or not you have the patience to watch that I'm interested in what life changing technology you all are either looking forward to or dreading.
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Re: Future Imperfect
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2009, 12:44:08 AM »

i didnt watch it but i automatically thought of terminator and i, robot
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Re: Future Imperfect
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2009, 02:48:19 AM »

It's a fairly new book talking about likely technological developments and how they will change society.  Here is an hour long lecture about it by the author.  I thought it was really interesting even though David Friedman is not the best speaker in the world.

http://www.cambridgeblog.org/2008/09/david-friedman-on-authorsgoogle/

Whether or not you have the patience to watch that I'm interested in what life changing technology you all are either looking forward to or dreading.
i'm 38, but my parents can remember life before television, even......... so most of the technology we have now is stuff we always heard about having in the future, except we don't have flying cars or a cure for old age.  yet.  but we do have cloning.  and the few things we don't have, we are in a hurry to mass produce, as they exist already in theory.

i used to read a lot of sci-fi.  i find it kind of interesting that concepts like the internet as a whole, video chat, iPhones and even satellites were 'invented' by asomiv, bradbury, heinlin, and even sagan.  ray bradbury pretty much described a 'chat room'--literally, the walls were screens--in Fahrenheit 451.   it's been awhile since i read it but i believe he compared it more to television; everyone being a star in their own show, but interacting with other viewers, who were also watching and commenting, etc.

i dread the retinal scanners and information-stealing sorts of control devices, evil robots, and clone armies; and i really, really am looking forward to having a flying car. 
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Re: Future Imperfect
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2009, 12:41:01 PM »

It's a fairly new book talking about likely technological developments and how they will change society.  Here is an hour long lecture about it by the author.  I thought it was really interesting even though David Friedman is not the best speaker in the world.

http://www.cambridgeblog.org/2008/09/david-friedman-on-authorsgoogle/

Whether or not you have the patience to watch that I'm interested in what life changing technology you all are either looking forward to or dreading.
i'm 38, but my parents can remember life before television, even......... so most of the technology we have now is stuff we always heard about having in the future, except we don't have flying cars or a cure for old age.  yet.  but we do have cloning.  and the few things we don't have, we are in a hurry to mass produce, as they exist already in theory.

i used to read a lot of sci-fi.  i find it kind of interesting that concepts like the internet as a whole, video chat, iPhones and even satellites were 'invented' by asomiv, bradbury, heinlin, and even sagan.  ray bradbury pretty much described a 'chat room'--literally, the walls were screens--in Fahrenheit 451.   it's been awhile since i read it but i believe he compared it more to television; everyone being a star in their own show, but interacting with other viewers, who were also watching and commenting, etc.

i dread the retinal scanners and information-stealing sorts of control devices, evil robots, and clone armies; and i really, really am looking forward to having a flying car. 
Ya know kids, when I was in elementary school, we had 5 TV channels (if the weather was good)...
Then we had 6.  Then this miraculous thing came along called "cable TV", and it cost way too much, but
it had 20 or 30 channels...  One of 'em was called Emm Tee Vee, and it played music videos...
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Re: Future Imperfect
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 01:21:24 PM »

It's a fairly new book talking about likely technological developments and how they will change society.  Here is an hour long lecture about it by the author.  I thought it was really interesting even though David Friedman is not the best speaker in the world.

http://www.cambridgeblog.org/2008/09/david-friedman-on-authorsgoogle/

Whether or not you have the patience to watch that I'm interested in what life changing technology you all are either looking forward to or dreading.
i'm 38, but my parents can remember life before television, even......... so most of the technology we have now is stuff we always heard about having in the future, except we don't have flying cars or a cure for old age.  yet.  but we do have cloning.  and the few things we don't have, we are in a hurry to mass produce, as they exist already in theory.

i used to read a lot of sci-fi.  i find it kind of interesting that concepts like the internet as a whole, video chat, iPhones and even satellites were 'invented' by asomiv, bradbury, heinlin, and even sagan.  ray bradbury pretty much described a 'chat room'--literally, the walls were screens--in Fahrenheit 451.   it's been awhile since i read it but i believe he compared it more to television; everyone being a star in their own show, but interacting with other viewers, who were also watching and commenting, etc.

i dread the retinal scanners and information-stealing sorts of control devices, evil robots, and clone armies; and i really, really am looking forward to having a flying car. 
Ya know kids, when I was in elementary school, we had 5 TV channels (if the weather was good)...
Then we had 6.  Then this miraculous thing came along called "cable TV", and it cost way too much, but
it had 20 or 30 channels...  One of 'em was called Emm Tee Vee, and it played music videos...


omg, remember UHF?  the channel you had to dial like a radio?

they still have emm tee vee.  it just doesn't have anything to do with music anymore.  it's kind of ironic that that ceased around the year i graduated from high school.

satellite dishes required a flatbed trailer to move around the yard.

i also remember my neighbors passing a giant box around so everyone would get the chance to watch 'alien' in their living rooms, on home box office.
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Re: Future Imperfect
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2009, 01:31:44 PM »

It's a fairly new book talking about likely technological developments and how they will change society.  Here is an hour long lecture about it by the author.  I thought it was really interesting even though David Friedman is not the best speaker in the world.

http://www.cambridgeblog.org/2008/09/david-friedman-on-authorsgoogle/

Whether or not you have the patience to watch that I'm interested in what life changing technology you all are either looking forward to or dreading.
i'm 38, but my parents can remember life before television, even......... so most of the technology we have now is stuff we always heard about having in the future, except we don't have flying cars or a cure for old age.  yet.  but we do have cloning.  and the few things we don't have, we are in a hurry to mass produce, as they exist already in theory.

i used to read a lot of sci-fi.  i find it kind of interesting that concepts like the internet as a whole, video chat, iPhones and even satellites were 'invented' by asomiv, bradbury, heinlin, and even sagan.  ray bradbury pretty much described a 'chat room'--literally, the walls were screens--in Fahrenheit 451.   it's been awhile since i read it but i believe he compared it more to television; everyone being a star in their own show, but interacting with other viewers, who were also watching and commenting, etc.

i dread the retinal scanners and information-stealing sorts of control devices, evil robots, and clone armies; and i really, really am looking forward to having a flying car. 
Ya know kids, when I was in elementary school, we had 5 TV channels (if the weather was good)...
Then we had 6.  Then this miraculous thing came along called "cable TV", and it cost way too much, but
it had 20 or 30 channels...  One of 'em was called Emm Tee Vee, and it played music videos...


omg, remember UHF?  the channel you had to dial like a radio?

they still have emm tee vee.  it just doesn't have anything to do with music anymore.  it's kind of ironic that that ceased around the year i graduated from high school.

satellite dishes required a flatbed trailer to move around the yard.

i also remember my neighbors passing a giant box around so everyone would get the chance to watch 'alien' in their living rooms, on home box office.
Oh yeah...  There was the small dial for 6, 8 and 12 (with an outer-ring for fine-tuning)...
...or you'd turn that one to U and use the big dial (also with fine-tuning ring) to find 23
or 57...  Then 35 came along, and showed old movies all day (seriously, non-stop Planet
of the Apes
films for two weeks before they settled on a schedule...  and years before
there was a FOX network for them to affiliate with).


Oh, and ONE emm tee vee, ONE aych bee oh, ONE skinemax, ONE ee ess pee enn...


Five miles in the snow, uphill...   O0
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Re: Future Imperfect
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2009, 01:41:00 PM »

It's a fairly new book talking about likely technological developments and how they will change society.  Here is an hour long lecture about it by the author.  I thought it was really interesting even though David Friedman is not the best speaker in the world.

http://www.cambridgeblog.org/2008/09/david-friedman-on-authorsgoogle/

Whether or not you have the patience to watch that I'm interested in what life changing technology you all are either looking forward to or dreading.
i'm 38, but my parents can remember life before television, even......... so most of the technology we have now is stuff we always heard about having in the future, except we don't have flying cars or a cure for old age.  yet.  but we do have cloning.  and the few things we don't have, we are in a hurry to mass produce, as they exist already in theory.

i used to read a lot of sci-fi.  i find it kind of interesting that concepts like the internet as a whole, video chat, iPhones and even satellites were 'invented' by asomiv, bradbury, heinlin, and even sagan.  ray bradbury pretty much described a 'chat room'--literally, the walls were screens--in Fahrenheit 451.   it's been awhile since i read it but i believe he compared it more to television; everyone being a star in their own show, but interacting with other viewers, who were also watching and commenting, etc.

i dread the retinal scanners and information-stealing sorts of control devices, evil robots, and clone armies; and i really, really am looking forward to having a flying car. 
Ya know kids, when I was in elementary school, we had 5 TV channels (if the weather was good)...
Then we had 6.  Then this miraculous thing came along called "cable TV", and it cost way too much, but
it had 20 or 30 channels...  One of 'em was called Emm Tee Vee, and it played music videos...


omg, remember UHF?  the channel you had to dial like a radio?

they still have emm tee vee.  it just doesn't have anything to do with music anymore.  it's kind of ironic that that ceased around the year i graduated from high school.

satellite dishes required a flatbed trailer to move around the yard.

i also remember my neighbors passing a giant box around so everyone would get the chance to watch 'alien' in their living rooms, on home box office.
Oh yeah...  There was the small dial for 6, 8 and 12 (with an outer-ring for fine-tuning)...
...or you'd turn that one to U and use the big dial (also with fine-tuning ring) to find 23
or 57...  Then 35 came along, and showed old movies all day (seriously, non-stop Planet
of the Apes
films for two weeks before they settled on a schedule...  and years before
there was a FOX network for them to affiliate with).


Oh, and ONE emm tee vee, ONE aych bee oh, ONE skinemax, ONE ee ess pee enn...


Five miles in the snow, uphill...   O0

both ways!

seriously, celphones used to have shoulder straps.

i'm also interested in how and when they will be able to couple technology with nature.  i'm not convinced i won't see implants in my lifetime that replace some gadgets...i even saved my old walkman so i could one day give it to the grandkids and hear them say 'you mean nobody had an ear chip?'
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Re: Future Imperfect
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2009, 03:48:34 PM »

i agree if they start doing the eye scans or thumb scans (which they already do as a money transfer) i'm going underground and starting a rebellion b/c that shit is so wrong and creepy, i'm paranoid enough as is if they start doing shit like that i'm gonna freak out!!
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Re: Future Imperfect
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2009, 04:01:54 PM »

i agree if they start doing the eye scans or thumb scans (which they already do as a money transfer) i'm going underground and starting a rebellion b/c that shit is so wrong and creepy, i'm paranoid enough as is if they start doing shit like that i'm gonna freak out!!

you know what freaks me out?  google earth street views.  i went and looked at my old residence from a year ago (to check on the former roommates, doncha know) and there was my ex's now-repo'd truck sitting in front of the house, license plate fully legible and all.  it was like some horrible video game of my former front yard, i could even navigate a little bit.  from a year ago, they need to update.  but still.

kind of upsetting they can peek in your windows like that.
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Re: Future Imperfect
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2009, 04:13:17 PM »

i agree if they start doing the eye scans or thumb scans (which they already do as a money transfer) i'm going underground and starting a rebellion b/c that shit is so wrong and creepy, i'm paranoid enough as is if they start doing shit like that i'm gonna freak out!!

you know what freaks me out?  google earth street views.  i went and looked at my old residence from a year ago (to check on the former roommates, doncha know) and there was my ex's now-repo'd truck sitting in front of the house, license plate fully legible and all.  it was like some horrible video game of my former front yard, i could even navigate a little bit.  from a year ago, they need to update.  but still.

kind of upsetting they can peek in your windows like that.

agreed!!! it's cool that i can find what a place looks like, but they really dont need to go in close enough so that i can see the people inside, i just wanna see the building so it is quite creepy

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Re: Future Imperfect
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2009, 04:10:38 PM »

What do you all think about the idea of treatments that end aging?  David Friedman talks about this some in his lecture that I'm guessing nobody watched yet...

I'd also suggest looking into Aubrey de Grey who is a biologist working on biological immortality.

I think the prospect of it is very interested and I really want to live forever...
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Re: Future Imperfect
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2009, 02:34:01 AM »

cancer cells are a good place to start for the searchfor immortality

I am interested to see where biotech will head once we get over the "Ick" factor of genetic engineering and organism modification
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Re: Future Imperfect
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2009, 01:35:25 PM »

i wouldnt mind living forever!!! but then again there are some bad peoples who should not be allowed...so then the question is how do they decide who gets to have that and who doesnt
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2009, 06:17:27 PM »

i wouldnt mind living forever!!! but then again there are some bad peoples who should not be allowed...so then the question is how do they decide who gets to have that and who doesnt

well... criminals who spend their days behind bars could obviously not afford treatments (there is a pretty good chance it would be continues treatments/meds rather than a one time fix... at least at first) so this could work itself out to some extent.

cancer cells are a good place to start for the searchfor immortality

I am interested to see where biotech will head once we get over the "Ick" factor of genetic engineering and organism modification

As a matter of fact some biologists and MDs are already looking into mimicking certain things that cancer cells do.

I certainly agree that the "Ick" factor a long with obsession with being all natural is holding back the research.  Personally I don't get that at all.  I'd love to have all sorts of enhancements.  Besides living forever I'm very interested in increasing all forums of intelligence as far as they can go.

EDIT:  On that note... I'm sure it's only a matter of time before a 10" cock is average  ;D
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Re: Future Imperfect
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2009, 02:04:57 PM »

i wouldnt mind living forever!!! but then again there are some bad peoples who should not be allowed...so then the question is how do they decide who gets to have that and who doesnt

well... criminals who spend their days behind bars could obviously not afford treatments (there is a pretty good chance it would be continues treatments/meds rather than a one time fix... at least at first) so this could work itself out to some extent.

cancer cells are a good place to start for the searchfor immortality

I am interested to see where biotech will head once we get over the "Ick" factor of genetic engineering and organism modification

As a matter of fact some biologists and MDs are already looking into mimicking certain things that cancer cells do.

I certainly agree that the "Ick" factor a long with obsession with being all natural is holding back the research.  Personally I don't get that at all.  I'd love to have all sorts of enhancements.  Besides living forever I'm very interested in increasing all forums of intelligence as far as they can go.

EDIT:  On that note... I'm sure it's only a matter of time before a 10" cock is average  ;D

yes BUT what about people who arent in jail who've technically never done anything bad but no one likes, how does that get decided?
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