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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2009, 04:36:26 PM »

Jesus.  The thought of Sarah Palin as the first woman President of the US just sent a shiver down my spine.
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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2009, 04:52:06 PM »

Jesus.  The thought of Sarah Palin as the first woman President of the US just sent a shiver down my spine.

me too!

She has no chance though.  She is only liked by the republican loyalists.  Moderates hate her.

She does have a good shot at getting the republican nomination but this would just guarantee Obama's reelection.
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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2009, 05:42:57 PM »

She has no shot.  Her only hope was/is to ride in on the coat tails of a more prominant candidate.
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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2009, 05:48:58 PM »

She has no shot.  Her only hope was/is to ride in on the coat tails of a more prominant candidate.

Do republicans have one right now?

...wait... I forgot about Newt Gingrich.
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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2009, 06:16:45 PM »

Never underestimate the power of propaganda combined with human gullibility....

(Especially when you see how many districts are still using very vulnerable electronic voting
machines with no vote-verification receipts, and all manufactured by companies with close
ties to the GOP...  and the disturbing popularity of massive vote-by-mail initiatives.)
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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2009, 06:34:31 PM »

Never underestimate the power of propaganda combined with human gullibility....

(Especially when you see how many districts are still using very vulnerable electronic voting
machines with no vote-verification receipts, and all manufactured by companies with close
ties to the GOP...  and the disturbing popularity of massive vote-by-mail initiatives.)

What would never work in America.  If Exit polls said Democrats won and the vote count said otherwise, AND machines were used there would be riots.  At least as bad as what's in Iran.
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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2009, 06:51:40 PM »

Never underestimate the power of propaganda combined with human gullibility....

(Especially when you see how many districts are still using very vulnerable electronic voting
machines with no vote-verification receipts, and all manufactured by companies with close
ties to the GOP...  and the disturbing popularity of massive vote-by-mail initiatives.)

What would never work in America.  If Exit polls said Democrats won and the vote count said otherwise, AND machines were used there would be riots.  At least as bad as what's in Iran.

It has worked in the past, you just can't have it be as crazy of a "victory" as Ahmadinejad had.  Switching a few thousand votes though in a city or county, would not be that measurable and sometimes makes a difference in a swing state.
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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2009, 06:54:34 PM »

Never underestimate the power of propaganda combined with human gullibility....

(Especially when you see how many districts are still using very vulnerable electronic voting
machines with no vote-verification receipts, and all manufactured by companies with close
ties to the GOP...  and the disturbing popularity of massive vote-by-mail initiatives.)

What would never work in America.  If Exit polls said Democrats won and the vote count said otherwise, AND machines were used there would be riots.  At least as bad as what's in Iran.

It has worked in the past, you just can't have it be as crazy of a "victory" as Ahmadinejad had.  Switching a few thousand votes though in a city or county, would not be that measurable and sometimes makes a difference in a swing state.

this is true but it has to be awfully close to work.

The Republican party is so damaged right now it just won't be that close... Newt MIGHT be able to get somewhere but I'm sure Palin would be crushed.
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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2009, 06:57:23 PM »

Never underestimate the power of propaganda combined with human gullibility....

(Especially when you see how many districts are still using very vulnerable electronic voting
machines with no vote-verification receipts, and all manufactured by companies with close
ties to the GOP...  and the disturbing popularity of massive vote-by-mail initiatives.)

What would never work in America.  If Exit polls said Democrats won and the vote count said otherwise, AND machines were used there would be riots.  At least as bad as what's in Iran.

It has worked in the past, you just can't have it be as crazy of a "victory" as Ahmadinejad had.  Switching a few thousand votes though in a city or county, would not be that measurable and sometimes makes a difference in a swing state.

this is true but it has to be awfully close to work.

The Republican party is so damaged right now it just won't be that close... Newt MIGHT be able to get somewhere but I'm sure Palin would be crushed.

It wouldn't take much to make it believable, a few thousand votes in each precinct, keep doing that over and over you have some real numbers there.

Combine that with some creative purging of the voter rolls and it could be making some big differences.

The scary thing is how easy voter fraud really is with electronic machines
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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2009, 07:01:10 PM »

Never underestimate the power of propaganda combined with human gullibility....

(Especially when you see how many districts are still using very vulnerable electronic voting
machines with no vote-verification receipts, and all manufactured by companies with close
ties to the GOP...  and the disturbing popularity of massive vote-by-mail initiatives.)

What would never work in America.  If Exit polls said Democrats won and the vote count said otherwise, AND machines were used there would be riots.  At least as bad as what's in Iran.

It has worked in the past, you just can't have it be as crazy of a "victory" as Ahmadinejad had.  Switching a few thousand votes though in a city or county, would not be that measurable and sometimes makes a difference in a swing state.

this is true but it has to be awfully close to work.

The Republican party is so damaged right now it just won't be that close... Newt MIGHT be able to get somewhere but I'm sure Palin would be crushed.

It wouldn't take much to make it believable, a few thousand votes in each precinct, keep doing that over and over you have some real numbers there.

Combine that with some creative purging of the voter rolls and it could be making some big differences.

The scary thing is how easy voter fraud really is with electronic machines

A few thousand in each precinct would become more noticeable.  They can accurately gauge how many will be in the state and from there it won't matter how many precincts you divide it up into.

Not saying that it could not happen... just that it would be difficult even with electronic machines.  They would need to get a significant number of people to all go in on it.
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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2009, 07:05:04 PM »

Never underestimate the power of propaganda combined with human gullibility....

(Especially when you see how many districts are still using very vulnerable electronic voting
machines with no vote-verification receipts, and all manufactured by companies with close
ties to the GOP...  and the disturbing popularity of massive vote-by-mail initiatives.)

What would never work in America.  If Exit polls said Democrats won and the vote count said otherwise, AND machines were used there would be riots.  At least as bad as what's in Iran.

It has worked in the past, you just can't have it be as crazy of a "victory" as Ahmadinejad had.  Switching a few thousand votes though in a city or county, would not be that measurable and sometimes makes a difference in a swing state.

this is true but it has to be awfully close to work.

The Republican party is so damaged right now it just won't be that close... Newt MIGHT be able to get somewhere but I'm sure Palin would be crushed.

It wouldn't take much to make it believable, a few thousand votes in each precinct, keep doing that over and over you have some real numbers there.

Combine that with some creative purging of the voter rolls and it could be making some big differences.

The scary thing is how easy voter fraud really is with electronic machines
In case you missed it, the last election for one of Minnesota's US Senate seats was eventually decided by
about 400 votes.  Dubya's 2000 election swung on some very dubious vote-counting methodologies in a
few counties in Florida, and lest we forget, it is widely believed that John Kennedy defeated Richard Nixon
by the margin of a few thousand fraudulent votes in Illinois and Texas.


Anyway, the trick is simply to have more votes at the end of the election (Electoral Votes for the Presidency).
There's no need to try to make a "popular mandate", just a win.
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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2009, 07:16:41 PM »


In case you missed it, the last election for one of Minnesota's US Senate seats was eventually decided by
about 400 votes.  Dubya's 2000 election swung on some very dubious vote-counting methodologies in a
few counties in Florida, and lest we forget, it is widely believed that John Kennedy defeated Richard Nixon
by the margin of a few thousand fraudulent votes in Illinois and Texas.


Anyway, the trick is simply to have more votes at the end of the election (Electoral Votes for the Presidency).
There's no need to try to make a "popular mandate", just a win.

I addressed this basic idea with:

"this is true but it has to be awfully close to work.

The Republican party is so damaged right now it just won't be that close... Newt MIGHT be able to get somewhere but I'm sure Palin would be crushed."
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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2009, 07:43:09 PM »


In case you missed it, the last election for one of Minnesota's US Senate seats was eventually decided by
about 400 votes.  Dubya's 2000 election swung on some very dubious vote-counting methodologies in a
few counties in Florida, and lest we forget, it is widely believed that John Kennedy defeated Richard Nixon
by the margin of a few thousand fraudulent votes in Illinois and Texas.


Anyway, the trick is simply to have more votes at the end of the election (Electoral Votes for the Presidency).
There's no need to try to make a "popular mandate", just a win.

I addressed this basic idea with:

"this is true but it has to be awfully close to work.

The Republican party is so damaged right now it just won't be that close... Newt MIGHT be able to get somewhere but I'm sure Palin would be crushed."

Didn't 2004 start the "permanent Republican majority"?

There is no telling what the political landscape will look like in 2012.
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Re: Palin is.....
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2009, 11:10:18 PM »


In case you missed it, the last election for one of Minnesota's US Senate seats was eventually decided by
about 400 votes.  Dubya's 2000 election swung on some very dubious vote-counting methodologies in a
few counties in Florida, and lest we forget, it is widely believed that John Kennedy defeated Richard Nixon
by the margin of a few thousand fraudulent votes in Illinois and Texas.


Anyway, the trick is simply to have more votes at the end of the election (Electoral Votes for the Presidency).
There's no need to try to make a "popular mandate", just a win.

I addressed this basic idea with:

"this is true but it has to be awfully close to work.

The Republican party is so damaged right now it just won't be that close... Newt MIGHT be able to get somewhere but I'm sure Palin would be crushed."

Didn't 2004 start the "permanent Republican majority"?

No, I never heard anyone say that till just now.  Maybe a few people thought that but no where near as broad of a consensus as what we have now that the republicans will need a long time to recover.
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